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The Roswell Incident: Debunking MOGUL


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I felt like bringing back a Roswell thread again, so lets get started.

*The Story* (if you know the story already scroll past the red text)

On the evening of July 2nd, 1947, a flying saucer crashed on the Foster Ranch near Corona, New Mexico. This crash occurred during a severe thunderstorm. The military base nearest to the crash site is in Roswell, New Mexico; hence, Roswell is more closely associated with this event than Corona, even though Corona is closer to the crash site.

On July 3rd, 1947, William "Mac" Brazel and his neighbor, Dee Proctor (age 7 years), found the remains of a crashed flying saucer. Brazel was foreman of the Foster Ranch. The pieces of the crashed saucer were spread out over a large area, perhaps more than half a mile long. When Brazel drove Dee back home, he showed a piece of the wreckage to Dee's parents, Floyd and Loretta Proctor. They all agreed the piece was unlike anything they had ever seen.

On July 6th, 1947, Brazel showed pieces of the wreckage to Chaves County Sheriff George Wilcox. Wilcox contacted Roswell Army Air Field (AAF) and talked to Major Jesse Marcel, the intelligence officer. Marcel drove to the sheriff's office and inspected the wreckage. Marcel reported to his commanding officer, Colonel William "Butch" Blanchard. Blanchard ordered Marcel to get someone from the Counter Intelligence Corps, and to proceed to the ranch with Brazel to collect as much of the wreckage as they could load into their two vehicles.

Soon afterward, Military Police (MPs) arrived at the sheriff's office, collected the wreckage Brazel had left there, and delivered the wreckage to Blanchard's office. The wreckage was then flown to the Eighth Air Force headquarters in Fort Worth, Texas, and from there to Washington, D.C.

Meanwhile, Marcel and Sheridan Cavitt (with the Counter Intelligence Corps) drove to the Foster ranch with Mac Brazel. They arrived late in the evening and spent the night in sleeping bags in a small out-building on the ranch. They proceeded to the crash site the following morning.

On July 7th, 1947, Marcel and Cavitt collected wreckage from the crash site. After filling Cavitt's vehicle with wreckage, Marcel told Cavitt to go on ahead and that he (Marcel) would collect more wreckage and they would meet later back at Roswell AAF. Marcel filled his vehicle with wreckage. On the way back to the air field, Marcel stopped at home to show his wife and son the strange material he had found.

On July 7th, 1947, around 4:00 pm, Lydia Sleppy at Roswell radio station KSWS began transmitting a story on the teletype machine regarding a crashed flying saucer out on the Foster Ranch. Transmission was interrupted, seemingly by the FBI.

On the morning of July 8th, 1947, Marcel and Cavitt arrived back at Roswell AAF with two carloads of wreckage. Marcel accompanied this wreckage, or most it, on a flight to Fort Worth AAF.

On July 8th, 1947, around noon, Colonel Blanchard at Roswell AAF ordered Second Lieutenant Walter Haut to issue a press release telling the country that the Army had found the remains of a crashed flying saucer. Haut was the public information officer for the 509th Bomb Group at Roswell AAF. Haut delivered the press release to Frank Joyce at radio station KGFL. Joyce waited long enough for Haut to return to the base, then called Haut there to confirm the story. Joyce then sent the story on the Western Union wire to the United Press bureau.

On the afternoon of July 8th, 1947, General Clemence McMullen in Washington spoke by telephone with Colonel (later Brigadier General) Thomas DuBose in Fort Worth, chief of staff to the Eighth Air Force Commander General Roger Ramey. McMullen ordered DuBose to tell Ramey to quash the flying saucer story by creating a cover story and to send some of the crash material immediately to Washington.

On the afternoon of July 8th, 1947, General Roger Ramey held a press conference at the Eighth Air Force headquarters in Fort Worth in which he announced that what had crashed at Corona was a weather balloon, not a flying saucer. To make this story convincing, he showed the press the remains of a damaged weather balloon that he claimed was the actual wreckage from the crash site.

The only newspapers that carried the initial flying saucer version of the story were evening papers from the Midwest to the West, including the Chicago Daily News, the Los Angeles Herald Express, the San Francisco Examiner, and the Roswell Daily Record. The New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Chicago Tribune were morning papers and so carried only the cover-up story the next morning.

At some point, a large group of soldiers were sent to the debris field on the Foster Ranch, including the Military Police (MPs) whose job was to limit access to the field. A wide search was launched well beyond the limits of the debris field. Within a day or two, a few miles from the debris field, the main body of the flying saucer was found. Several bodies of small humanoid-type creatures were found a short distance from the crashed flying saucer.

The military took Mac Brazel into custody for about a week, during which time he was seen on the streets of Roswell with a military escort. His behavior aroused the curiosity of friends when he passed them without any sign of recognition. Following this period of detention, Brazel repudiated his initial story.

For many years the government used the excuse that a weather balloon fell at the Foster Ranch in 1947.

Once the U.S. Government realized they could no longer use the excuse that a weather balloon crashed in early July 1947 in Roswell, NM, they announced in 1994 that what was recovered at the Roswell crashsite was Project Mogul 4, a top secret balloon train.

An Engineer named Robert A. Galganski looks at this suspected coverup called Project MOGUL.

A mathematical model idealized the debris field as a variable-length, parabola-shaped region sparsely covered with fragments of an extraordinary thin-shell material.

It was assumed that Mogul Flight 4 created the debris field, leaving behind metalized-paper, rawin-radar-target remnants having a known total surface area.

Model-predicted and Mogul Flight 4-supplied thin-shell material surface areas were compared. One Mogul balloon train could account for only an extremely small fraction of the reported debris, even if Major Jesse Marcel had badly overestimated the field size.

Clearly, Project Mogul Flight 4 could not have been responsible for the debris found on the Foster ranch. Indeed, the analysis illustrates in a most compelling fashion just how absurd the Air Force’s Mogul hypothesis really is.

And even besides this, there are so many eye-witnesses of alien bodies at Roswell. Project MOGUL did not carry people on it.

AN INTERVIEW WITH F. B.

F.B. was an Army Air Force photographer stationed at Anacostia Naval Air Station in Washington, D.C. when he and fellow photographer A.K. were flown aboard a B-25 bomber to Roswell Army Air Field sometime during the second week of July 1947. F.B. was interviewed by Stanton Friedman. Here is what F.B had to say concerning this incident:

One morning they came in and they said, "Pack up your bags and we'll have the cameras there, ready for you." We didn't know where we was going.

After a few hours' flight, we arrived at Roswell. We got in a staff car with some of the gear they had brought along with us in trucks, and we headed out, about an hour and a half, we was heading north.

We got out there (one of the crash sites in the Corona area) and there was a helluva lot of people out there, in a closed tent. You couldn't hardly see anything inside the tent. They said, "Set your camera up to take a picture fifteen feet away." A.K. got in a truck and headed out to where they was picking up pieces. All kinds of brass running around. And they was telling us what to do. Shoot this, shoot that. There was an officer in charge. He met us out there and he'd go into the tent and he'd come back and tell us, "OK." He'd stand there right besides us and say, "Okay, take this picture."

There was four bodies I could see when the flash went off, but you was almost blind because it was a beautiful day, sunny. You'd go in this tent, which was awful dark. That's all I was taking, bodies. These bodies was under a canvas, and they'd open it up and you'd take a picture, flip out your flashbulb, put another one in (take another picture) and give him the film holder (each holder held two sheets of four-by-five inch cut film) and then you went to the next spot.

AN INTERVIEW WITH MELVIN BROWN'S DAUGHTER

Sergeant Melvin Brown was a cook at Roswell AAF in 1947. One day, he was called out to help guard material retrieved from the Foster Ranch. His daughter Beverly was interviewed by Stanton Friedman in 1989. Here is part of that interview:

When we were young, he used to tell us stories about things that had happened to him when he was young. We got to know those stories by heart and would all say together, "Here we go again."

Sometimes, but not too often, he used to say that he saw a man from outer space. That used to make us all giggle like mad. He said he had to stand guard duty outside a hangar where a crashed flying saucer was stored, and that his commanding officer said, "Come on, Brownie, let's have a look inside." But they didn't see anything because it had all been packed up and was ready to be flown out to Texas.

He also said that one day all available men were grabbed and that they had to stand guard where a crashed disc had come down. Everything was being loaded onto trucks, and he couldn't understand why some of the trucks had ice or something in them. He did not understand what they wanted to keep cold. Him and another guy had to ride in the back of one of the trucks, and although they were told that they could get into a lot of trouble if they took in too much of what was happening, they had a quick look under the covering and saw two dead bodies, alien bodies.

We really had to giggle at that bit. He said they were smaller than a normal man, about four feet, and had much larger heads than us, with slanted eyes, and that the bodies looked yellowish, a bit Asian-looking. We did not believe him when we were kids, but as I got older, I did kind of believe it. Once I asked him if he was scared by them, and he said, "Hell no, they looked nice, almost as though they would be friendly if they were alive."

AN INTERVIEW WITH "PAPPY" HENDERSON'S WIFE

Sappho Henderson was Pappy Henderson's wife. She was interviewed by Stanton Friedman. Here is part of that interview:

We met during World War II when he flew with the 446th Bomb Squadron. He flew B-24s on thirty missions over Germany. After the war, he returned home and was then sent to Roswell. While stationed there, he ran the "Green Hornet Airline", which involved flying C-54s and C-47s carrying VIPs, scientists, and materials from Roswell to the Pacific during the atom bomb tests. He had to have a Top Secret clearance for this responsibility.

In 1980 or 1981, he picked up a newspaper at a grocery store where we were living in San Diego. One article described the crash of a UFO outside Roswell, with the bodies of aliens discovered beside the craft. He pointed out the article to me and said, "I want you to read this article, because it's a true story. I'm the pilot who flew the wreckage of the UFO to Dayton, Ohio (where Wright Field is). I guess now that they're putting it in the paper, I can tell you about this. I wanted to tell you for years." Pappy never discussed his work because of his security clearance.

He described the beings as small with large heads for their size. He said the material that their suits were made of was different than anything he had ever seen. He said they looked strange. I believe he mentioned that the bodies had been packed in dry ice to preserve them.

These are just a few witnesses. I'd say about 25-35 witnesses total have come fourth, but there are probably more out there who were told to keep their mouths shut, or they have died already.

The government came fourth in 1997 and said that the supposed "alien bodies" seen in Roswell were nothing more than test-dummies done by the government... this makes no sense because MOGUL did not carry bodies of any kind and was not used for the testing of dummies. The government screwed themselves on that one.

Clearly the government is not denying bodies at Roswell, but dummy testing only started in the 1950's and this incident took place in 1947. They did not fly secret airplanes in New Mexico in 1947. There was plenty of room for that in California, where all the secret airplane projects were carried on. So even if it was some top-secret dummy testing, it wouldn't have been done in New Mexico.

Rockets and airplanes that were secret in 1947 are not secret now. If what crashed was a secret rocket or airplane, it would have been revealed as such years ago. Incredibly, the Army is sticking to it's weather balloon story, even though nobody believes it anymore.

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ecko i believe we completely agree about Roswell

and i seriously doubt this thread will change anyones mind

but i do really like the interview excerpts ty thumbsup.gif

i hadnt seen them before

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b4 people shuld completely make their minds on mogul, they shuld read magazines,books and other media which has done research on the whole possibility of the matter.

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