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[greypaperman]

The only way to solve the large scale unemployment would be to re-nationalise business and industry at every level and for a government to introduce socialist policies. Unfortunaterly business interests come before the general populace.

[Br Cornelius]

This is an interesting assessment of the real state of UK unemployment;

http://www.shu.ac.uk...oyment-2012.pdf

Its main conclusions are;

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For Britain as a whole in April 2012, the new figures point to more than 3.4 million

unemployed. This compares to just 1.5 million on the claimant count and 2.5 million

according to the Labour Force Survey – the government’s two official measures of

unemployment. The difference is attributable to extensive hidden unemployment.
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Hidden unemployment is disproportionately concentrated in the weakest local

economies, where claimant unemployment is already highest. The effect has been to

mask the true scale of labour market disparities between the best and worst parts of the

country.
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Comparisons with similar data for earlier years shows that Britain was still a long way off

full employment before the 2008/9 recession. Full employment is now still further away

and the real rate of unemployment is higher than at any time since 1997.
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The report casts serious doubt on the likely impact of the Coalition government’s

reforms, notably the Work Programme and Universal Credit, which are founded on the

assumption that unemployment can be brought down by encouraging the unemployed to

find work. The evidence points to large and continuing shortfalls in job opportunities

away from the most prosperous parts of southern England."

And thats what you get when you have no meaningful Industrial stratergy.

Br Cornelius

[TheLastLazyGun]

What has not been mentioned so far is that there are more people in employment in Britain at this very moment than ever before.  Around 30 million Britons have jobs.

Here are some other stats which show that, in terms of jobs and employment, things are definitely on the up:

In December, it was revealed that the number of people out of work fell by 82,000 between August and October, to 2.51 million.

It was the biggest quarterly fall in unemployment since 2001.

The unemployment rate was 7.8%, down 0.2 percentage points from the previous three months.

The Office for National Statistics also said that the number of people claiming Jobseeker's Allowance fell 3,000 to 1.58 million in November.

Total pay was up 1.8% compared with the same period last year.

Employment rose 40,000 to 29.6 million, which was the highest figure since records began in 1971.

The number of people in full-time employment rose 44,000.

The number of people in part-time employment fell 4,000.

The number of unemployed 16-to-24-year-olds fell 90,000 to 626,000, excluding people in full-time education.

The biggest regional fall in employment was in Scotland, where it fell 27,000.

The biggest regional rise was in Yorkshire and the Humber, where it rose 48,000.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...siness-20691842

These stats all show how utterly wrong the Left was about what would happen to the unemployment rate if the Conservatives came to power.  In 2009, Danny Blanchflower, the Left's favourite economist and Gordon Brown’s favourite former appointee to the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee, confidently predicted that unemployment would surge past 5 million should the Tories could to power.  As shown above, the unemployment rate is only half that.

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[ali smack]

The unemployment is terrible and is certainly a lot more than 2 million. that's hogwash and they know it.
The thing is, because of the recession there's more people losing jobs then getting them.
Also there just isn't many jobs about and they tend to be stupid things most people can't do like managers and plumbers.
What really grinds my gears is the idiots who claim that all doleys are "Scroungers" which is a bunch of nonsense really.
Most people on JSA do want to work.