DJ_Quinn Posted June 15, 2005 #1 Share Posted June 15, 2005 GOODLAND, Kan. - Archaeologists have returned to a dig near the Colorado-Kansas border for a third summer, but this year's dig has taken on new importance. Radiocarbon dating results finished in February showed that mammoth and prehistoric camel bones found at a rural site near Kanorado, about a mile from the Colorado border, dated back to 12,200 years ago. That would mean people who once camped at the site may have arrived in the Great Plains 700 years before historians previously thought. The bones appear to have tool marks made by humans, who probably broke them to extract marrow for food or to make tools, said Steve Holen, curator of archaeology at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. Finding tools near where the bones were found would disprove the widely held belief that humans arrived in North America about 11,500 years ago. "The best thing we could find is a very patterned artifact — one that it's obvious humans made it," Holen told the Lawrence Journal-World. "It would change the way we think about early humans in North America." More than 100 archaeologists from the Denver Museum, the University of Kansas, the Kansas Archaeological Association and the Kansas Archaeology Training Program of the Kansas State Historical Society are working at the site. The dig is being funded partly by the Odyssey Archaeological Research Fund, an endowed program trying to find the earliest evidence of humans on the Great Plains. Kim Kilmartin, a Baker University sophomore from Topeka, is spending her summer at the site after completing an internship in a processing lab at the Kansas State Historical Society. "It's actually a lot more fun than it looks," she said. "In the lab, you actually know what you're looking for. Finding it in the field is very cool, even if it's the smallest stone flake or bone fragment." Evidence of campsites for early plains people have already been found, the researchers said. Pieces of tools and a bead from the Clovis era — from about 10,800 years ago to 11,500 years ago — have been uncovered. Rolfe Mandel, an archaeological geologist with the Kansas Geological Survey, said this was the first site uncovered from the period in Kansas or Nebraska, and one of only a handful from the Midwest. "We knew they were here," he said of Clovis-period people. "We didn't know anything about how they may have spent their time while they weren't traveling across the landscape. That's been very elusive." In prehistoric times, the Kanorado site likely had marshlike water that drew large animals, which attracted humans, Mandel said. People of the era were highly mobile, though, so they likely didn't stay for long. But workers at the site would be thrilled to find evidence to push back the dates humans arrived in the Great Plains. If such an artifact was found, the researchers say, it would raise questions about whether the earliest inhabitants of North America came across the Bering Strait from Asia. Instead, they may have arrived by boat in South America and journeyed northward. Holen said that would raise doubts about the long-held scientific doctrine that humans have been in North America for about 11,500 years. "There is a strong contingent that still believes that," he said. "We're going to do what we can to disprove that." ___ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Quinn Posted June 15, 2005 Author #2 Share Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) Isn't this is the place were they are trying to ban evolution, or have ID placed in the science class and change the definition of science? Every God fearing person knows the Earth is only 6000 years old. Those scientists can just back off! I'm going to bulldoze over that work of Satan. The Bible is the only science we need around here! Edited June 15, 2005 by DJ_Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roswell Man Posted June 15, 2005 #3 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Isn't this is the place were they are trying to ban evolution, or have ID placed in the science class and change the definition of science? Every God fearing person knows the Earth is only 6000 years old. Those scientists can just back off! I'm going to bulldoze over that work of Satan. The Bible is the only science we need around here! 677737[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaftsbury Posted June 15, 2005 #4 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Now you know why Dorothy caught the first twister out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 15, 2005 #5 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Now you know why Dorothy caught the first twister out of town. 678418[/snapback] But why did she want to get back ah of course because her theology didn't match with anywhere else outside of kansas Thats why all that having blind faith in your Ruby slippers worked for her. Theres no place like ignorance, theres no place like ignorance, theres no place like ignorance So does that mean that the Wizard actually was a manisfestation of God or do you think that Toto was in charge the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativechick1989 Posted June 15, 2005 #6 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Now you know why Dorothy caught the first twister out of town. 678418[/snapback] But why did she want to get back ah of course because her theology didn't match with anywhere else outside of kansas Thats why all that having blind faith in your Ruby slippers worked for her. Theres no place like ignorance, theres no place like ignorance, theres no place like ignorance So does that mean that the Wizard actually was a manisfestation of God or do you think that Toto was in charge the whole time. 678562[/snapback] Marduk, You make me laugh, you're funny! By the way, waiting to chat again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Quinn Posted June 16, 2005 Author #7 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Now you know why Dorothy caught the first twister out of town. 678418[/snapback] But why did she want to get back ah of course because her theology didn't match with anywhere else outside of kansas Thats why all that having blind faith in your Ruby slippers worked for her. Theres no place like ignorance, theres no place like ignorance, theres no place like ignorance So does that mean that the Wizard actually was a manisfestation of God or do you think that Toto was in charge the whole time. 678562[/snapback] Does Frank Oz know about this marduk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 16, 2005 #8 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Now you know why Dorothy caught the first twister out of town. 678418[/snapback] But why did she want to get back ah of course because her theology didn't match with anywhere else outside of kansas Thats why all that having blind faith in your Ruby slippers worked for her. Theres no place like ignorance, theres no place like ignorance, theres no place like ignorance So does that mean that the Wizard actually was a manisfestation of God or do you think that Toto was in charge the whole time. 678562[/snapback] Does Frank Oz know about this marduk? 679603[/snapback] Frank Oz ? you mean "the muppet master" probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Quinn Posted June 16, 2005 Author #9 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Wicked witch and the Wizard? And where is "No WMD's"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 16, 2005 #10 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Wicked witch and the Wizard? And where is "No WMD's"? 679818[/snapback] Did you notice too that if you hold a cursor over the picture the "no brain" disappears and you get the option to enlarge bet Dubya wishes it was that simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 16, 2005 #11 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Excuse me...am I missing something? I thought this was a thread about an archaeologists discovery and not the popular US bashing. It's getting as tiresome as some people bringing up 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 16, 2005 #12 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Excuse me...am I missing something? I thought this was a thread about an archaeologists discovery and not the popular US bashing. It's getting as tiresome as some people bringing up 9/11. 679839[/snapback] Please don't bring up 9/11 its as tiresome as U.S. Pres bashing. btw that picture is of american origin so its not bashing if its self parody is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 16, 2005 #13 Share Posted June 16, 2005 As was DJ's second post??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 16, 2005 #14 Share Posted June 16, 2005 As was DJ's second post??? 679848[/snapback] No that was just honest and well founded in fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 16, 2005 #15 Share Posted June 16, 2005 They are not facts... they are bigoted, ignorant opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 16, 2005 #16 Share Posted June 16, 2005 They are not facts... they are bigoted, ignorant opinions. 679861[/snapback] If thats what you think Michelle then i suggest you get the facts before trying to debunk what has in fact been reported widely in media the kansas state education board is strongly in favour of creationist science Thats the truth of course saying that anyone who disagrees with that is bigoted or ignorant is the usual claim from creationists whenever someone points out that they're talking out of their asses. http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/news/2005...k_5_13_2005.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 16, 2005 #17 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Regardless of what a few fanatics wish to push on the rest of the population, they seem to have become the focus of this thread... which is not on topic. If that is what you wish to discuss then I suggest you start a thread on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 16, 2005 #18 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Regardless of what a few fanatics wish to push on the rest of the population, they seem to have become the focus of this thread... which is not on topic. If that is what you wish to discuss then I suggest you start a thread on it. 679885[/snapback] You don't see how a new archaeological discovery in Kansas is linked to their education system saying it doesn't exist It is the same subject both concern evolution both are in Kansas It is a fairly obvious parallel. if you don't like it go start a thread yourself with a more specific title like "N America's Earliest Campsite/No local opinion allowed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 16, 2005 #19 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I didn't realize you were a local. Then you must realize that the school board has not been able to accomplish what it set out to do, so that must mean they are not in the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 16, 2005 #20 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I didn't realize you were a local. Then you must realize that the school board has not been able to accomplish what it set out to do, so that must mean they are not in the majority. 679904[/snapback] agreed, but the fact that they set out to accomplish it in the first place speaks volumes. that was what prompted luicds response. not bigotry or ignorance as you claimed btw everyone with an internet connection is local Personally i wouldn't visit Kansas. all those twisters look terribly dangerous i saw them on the telly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 16, 2005 #21 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The twisters have been sent, by God, to rid the world of fanatic, trailer trash with their front teeth missing. They have served their purpose well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted June 16, 2005 #22 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The twisters have been sent, by God, to rid the world of fanatic, trailer trash with their front teeth missing. They have served their purpose well. 679922[/snapback] Theres two things i don't get about Kansas and Twisters 1) Why do peope always rebuild their homes on the same spot year after year 2) where the hell do they get home insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Quinn Posted June 16, 2005 Author #23 Share Posted June 16, 2005 They are not facts... they are bigoted, ignorant opinions. 679861[/snapback] Michelle,I am truly sorry if I offended you or anyone else. I was mearly trying to male a point. I did originally start this topic because of the archeological and anthropological significance of the discovery, and thought it ironic that it happened in Kansas. DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 16, 2005 #24 Share Posted June 16, 2005 It is rather ironic.... I just hope you know that they aren't the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcallmefox Posted June 16, 2005 #25 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Theres two things i don't get about Kansas and Twisters 1) Why do peope always rebuild their homes on the same spot year after year 2) where the hell do they get home insurance. I always wondered that about Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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