Yes, I noticed that you pick and choose what appeals to you with regards to what you regards as proof.
Already done that. Here is the link again - LINK - The Spaceships of Ezekiel by Tim Callahan
The link pertains to the Ezekiel aspect obviously, the entire Bible would require many more links. For goodness sakes, the great flood claim shows us that it is fictitious in some aspects at the very least.
Again it seems I need to repeat myself. Could you just read the posts and save the double ups?
I do not care for your personal interpretation, I insist that for the sake of debate at the very least that we restrict the conversation to known and accepted terminology. Your personal viewpoint means little to me no matter how "enlightened" you consider yourself to be. I am in the real world.
I do not find Abrahamic religions absurd, I think they have been interpreted in an absurd way. As I have said before the West uses a religious text as a historical record, and the middle east uses a historical record as a religious text.
Gods comprises a great many "advanced" species if you prefer that term. From the Christian God to the Pagans Gods at the beginning of civilisation. Every religions has at least one. If you have a preferred term, just spit it out and save all this waffle would you please?
What a load of BS. Nobody owns a planet. It owns us. We are a product of it. If the human race died out tomorrow, and in say another million years some other species arises, is it stil our planet? No, it is not.
What taught man math was the need for it. The onset of agriculture and storage required mathematical practises to account for resources. Prehistoric peoples also recognised how to count abstract quantities, like time – days, seasons, years. Mathematics arises from many different kinds of problems. Not Gods. Or whatever term you wish to use. Necessity is the mother of invention, you didn't know that?
They educated humanity yet humanity came to the same conclusions al by themselves as these aspects were broached? What a load of BS. There is no advantage to these "gifts" we have received. And they gave this information out 400 years ago, we caught up and made the calculations ourselves (which I believe was the case all along) so where are they?
Sounds more like a hippy trip to be perfectly honest. If we managed to come up with the same conclusions that the supposed Gods did, it stands to reason that no Gods existed in the first place, just the concept which did explain things like lightning bolts for a long time. Mans curiosity is his saviour from the dreamland of the gods.
Astronomical knowledge came from observation. I will believe there is a cure to cancer when I see it. No gods are required here. Curing cancer would be convincing, when will someone be getting around to that?
Of course it is useless to give this information to one continent when another was on the verge of discovering it. Why would an alien give a primitive race the speed of light? what did these numpties actually expect Sayana to do with it? Why are these so called enlightened advanced beings so darn stupid? Yes, it is indeed useless to travel into the amazon and find a tribe and teach them quantum mechanics. How is that going to better their lives? What they need is medicine, and resources. Science will come when man can survive without having to worry about surviving. Such is the nature of mans curiosity.
That is just plain insulting. How on earth pray tell did you manage to distort my post into this rubbish? I have not insinuated such at all, I have asked the value of giving out information that man canot use at the time when man was to discover this anyway (which makes these gods pretty unobservant and not very intuitive at all) as opposed to information that man can actually use. That man managed to come up with these calculations is impressive as I have said, but you want to take that achievement away and give it to some imaginative being. That is what I see as treating science as worthless.
This species is billions of years old, travels space, lived through the big bang, and the best they can give us is some information we also came up with ourselves? Such does not indicate divine intelligence, such indicates a level of technology similar to our own, this fledgling 200,000 year old species. As such, no gods are required. If they are not required I need more to go on than your assurances to accept that they so much as exist.
You say they can cure cancer, I do not believe you, all I see is that you think man is a whole lot dumber than he is. I want to see this cure for cancer and watch it implemented. When is someone going to just use this information that you say exists? Private enterprise would use it if it existed. Same with the extension of life, if man could get at the fountain of youth, man would. For some, money would be no object, yet even rich people grow old and die.
Edited by psyche101, 05 April 2012 - 12:38 AM.