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#346    DENNISSTARR

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:37 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 21 November 2011 - 06:20 AM, said:

I do not know, we also hear Pilots get fired for speaking out about UFO's, I have to say I am having a hard time finding a single soul that has been subject to such though. Can you prove this is the case?

And he did not know it was in Popular Science? Do you think some of these guys might have been fed stories of over importance by their superiors?

He, my father, as well as many others in the military, special forces group anyway, explained this protocol.  

No.  He didn't pursue science. Wasn't interested only history.  After that blow up, much later, he told me he had components of that system as his cargo and flew them into Alaska.

As far as the pilots I don't know.  He and my uncle were flyers but they were held up in the cargo area and they never told me stories about sightings.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:49 AM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 21 November 2011 - 06:04 AM, said:

And the bogeyman is in your closet too.  Either there or under your bed.  And if not there... well, I'm sure he's hiding somewhere and I'd bet the government is behind the whole damn thing! :rolleyes:


Why not?  Is it not plausible that they have had contact with beings who have imparted some knowledge that the government has exploited?  Perhaps it is a power thing to hold this stuff back.  Knowledge is power.  That is what you need knowledge of the existence of UFOs and aliens in order for them to be real to you.  So what if these things are actually ours or at least some.  You purported that what highly advanced being would need to do these things.  Perhaps it isn't them but us who need to do these things.


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:59 AM

View PostDENNISSTARR, on 21 November 2011 - 06:37 AM, said:

He, my father, as well as many others in the military, special forces group anyway, explained this protocol.  

No.  He didn't pursue science. Wasn't interested only history.  After that blow up, much later, he told me he had components of that system as his cargo and flew them into Alaska.

As far as the pilots I don't know.  He and my uncle were flyers but they were held up in the cargo area and they never told me stories about sightings.


My sister served with the RAAF as CISCOM. She never heard anything UFO/ET related either. Perhaps he just might not have realised his cargo was declassified I guess, great job Loadmaster. Must be quite a well respected man. Sounds like he took his position very seriously. I urged my stepson to try out for loadmaster, he got some young girl pregnant instead. On the dole now. Ohh well. Their kid is cute.

Edited by psyche101, 21 November 2011 - 07:00 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:06 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 21 November 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

My sister served with the RAAF as CISCOM. She never heard anything UFO/ET related either. Perhaps he just might not have realised his cargo was declassified I guess, great job Loadmaster. Must be quite a well respected man. Sounds like he took his position very seriously. I urged my stepson to try out for loadmaster, he got some young girl pregnant instead. On the dole now. Ohh well. Their kid is cute.

Thanks.  He is.  He told me some of his experiences but I'm sure not a lot.  Some of the tests they conducted with parachuting equipment out of the plane such as tanks.  They tried to figure out how they could drop the equipment out with the crew inside, high extraction and low.  They couldn't.


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:17 AM

View PostDENNISSTARR, on 21 November 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

Thanks.  He is.  He told me some of his experiences but I'm sure not a lot.  Some of the tests they conducted with parachuting equipment out of the plane such as tanks.  They tried to figure out how they could drop the equipment out with the crew inside, high extraction and low.  They couldn't.


I cannot help but think of the A Team movie where they come down in a tank!

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No disrespect intended, it just happened to be the very first thing that popped into my head. I know this is not possible, but little in that movie is I think. Awesome to watch though.

I agree that there are many things we do not know, but I think for national security it needs to be this way. It sounds like your father got to see some things the average person did not. An accomplishment in it's own right. But as his own words seem to indicate from the brief snippets that you have shared, his, and the militaries real concern is other men. War is what we fear I feel, and that alone makes the global/alien situation rather questionable. The US has many enemies that simply would not put up with Interstellar traffic on the sly.

Edited by psyche101, 21 November 2011 - 07:18 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:22 AM

View PostDENNISSTARR, on 21 November 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

Thanks.  He is.  He told me some of his experiences but I'm sure not a lot.  Some of the tests they conducted with parachuting equipment out of the plane such as tanks.  They tried to figure out how they could drop the equipment out with the crew inside, high extraction and low.  They couldn't.

Those experiments were carried out at Wright Field. They were not that classified, if I remember* correctly at least one tank landed on someones house.

* I mean I've read that, I'm much too young to have even been there.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:29 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 21 November 2011 - 07:17 AM, said:

I cannot help but think of the A Team movie where they come down in a tank!

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No disrespect intended, it just happened to be the very first thing that popped into my head. I know this is not possible, but little in that movie is I think. Awesome to watch though.

I agree that there are many things we do not know, but I think for national security it needs to be this way. It sounds like your father got to see some things the average person did not. An accomplishment in it's own right. But as his own words seem to indicate from the brief snippets that you have shared, his, and the militaries real concern is other men. War is what we fear I feel, and that alone makes the global/alien situation rather questionable. The US has many enemies that simply would not put up with Interstellar traffic on the sly.

That is what I am attempting to explore.  Many UFO sightings may and are of terrestrial in origin.  Take the SR-71...in the early 70's my father was taking some pictures on the base of the of the hangers and such to show off the the in-laws in England.  He wasn't near the classified section of the base.  But he was suddenly surrounded by about ten security airmen and an officer grabbed his camera and took the film and told him to move on.  He had to think "what was that what did I capture on film?"  He after some thought remembered he had caught a portion of a tail of a passing by aircraft.  It was the SR-71 being moved into hanger.  

Perhaps we have come a long way ourselves, alone.  But I don't think so.


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:32 AM

View Postlost_shaman, on 21 November 2011 - 07:22 AM, said:

Those experiments were carried out at Wright Field. They were not that classified, if I remember* correctly at least one tank landed on someones house.

* I mean I've read that, I'm much too young to have even been there.


Probably why he talked about it.  He said they used dummies set up with sensors to see if a human could withstand the g forces.  He said if anyone did survive they wouldn't be able to operate the tank.  They would be to broken up.


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:56 AM

View PostDENNISSTARR, on 21 November 2011 - 07:29 AM, said:

That is what I am attempting to explore.  Many UFO sightings may and are of terrestrial in origin.  Take the SR-71...in the early 70's my father was taking some pictures on the base of the of the hangers and such to show off the the in-laws in England.  He wasn't near the classified section of the base.  But he was suddenly surrounded by about ten security airmen and an officer grabbed his camera and took the film and told him to move on.  He had to think "what was that what did I capture on film?"  He after some thought remembered he had caught a portion of a tail of a passing by aircraft.  It was the SR-71 being moved into hanger.  

Well that is nothing short of awesome, I am hoping you have some inside knowledge that might lead to some forgotten project. I shall keep an eye out to see if you do find anything along these lines, sounds interesting. The SR-71 will always be a favorite of mine. It was groundbreaking.

View PostDENNISSTARR, on 21 November 2011 - 07:29 AM, said:

Perhaps we have come a long way ourselves, alone.  But I don't think so.

I feel there is a long history associated with our Industrial Revolution, I am pretty confident that whatever we fly, we came up with. Who knows, your Father might have been a secret integral part of this modern world we enjoy!


Link - Industrial Revolution.

Edited by psyche101, 21 November 2011 - 07:56 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:06 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 21 November 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:

Well that is nothing short of awesome, I am hoping you have some inside knowledge that might lead to some forgotten project. I shall keep an eye out to see if you do find anything along these lines, sounds interesting. The SR-71 will always be a favorite of mine. It was groundbreaking.



I feel there is a long history associated with our Industrial Revolution, I am pretty confident that whatever we fly, we came up with. Who knows, your Father might have been a secret integral part of this modern world we enjoy!


Link - Industrial Revolution.

My father also said he flew only one time into Area 51.  He was carrying cargo that he did not load, it was already done.  This was highly unusual.  When they landed and got to the end of the runway they were met by security airman in jeeps pointing their M-16s at the plane and they surrounded the craft.  They were told not to move and drop the rear hatch.  Security entered the plane cargo hold and held my father at gun point while others extracted the cargo from the plane.  Once completed they told the aircrew to turn about and STOL out of there immediately.

He had a classified load but did not know what it was nor for that matter he didn't want to know.  Airforce holding Airforce at gun point, what was that cargo?

Edited by DENNISSTARR, 21 November 2011 - 08:07 AM.





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