Mikko-kun, on 12 April 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:
That DMT state, I think it's something when you become less caring about the presence of the possibility of death and life's border because it's already so evidently there, and instead become more aware of what's things like happiness, start to think things like who would be the one person you'd truly wish to have said one word more, perhaps, things like that. It's not a state which is easy to sustain if you dont have the psychological withstanding to withstand it, because it's unconditional. Certain things may be harder to fit together for a majority of us because of the lifestyles we've adopted, the ongoing survival mechanisms we've learned to accept unquestioningly. We dont ask ourselves "what if this all ended for us?", let alone live on the edge, follow our drives like acrobats walking on a long rope, below us a deep bottomless pit, not just ready to lose everything, but to gamble things for something we truly believe in. I've heard of LSD trippers who have jumped over roof after heavy doze because they believed in what they experienced that much, but I think it's just that those people might've lacked the ability to grasp the true relation between belief and reality. They're tied together as Jesus and placebo say, but it's a matter of how, to what and which extent.
I just say all this because I think it's the same faith you need in order to have true form of faith into Jesus, god or anything else, or what they teach. As they said, "place your faith unto me, place yourself unto my arms"... I can't remember how it went exactly. I just think it's the level of sincerity that counts to a good part.
This part, in particular, I think shows that Jesus might've been aware of placebo, of the power of belief unto anything you believe to be healing, is what makes your body heal better. Whether he was son of god or not (I believe we are all offsprings of something bigger than us, just a question of what it is and it's nature exactly), he seemed to have been definitely ahead of his time. Psychologically advanced man too. I dont think any of this or other earthly elevation of his abilities shuts out the possibility of son-of-god nor even diminishes that possibility, but it might make things clearer.
Mikko-kun, on 12 April 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:
That DMT state, I think it's something when you become less caring about the presence of the possibility of death and life's border because it's already so evidently there, and instead become more aware of what's things like happiness, start to think things like who would be the one person you'd truly wish to have said one word more, perhaps, things like that. It's not a state which is easy to sustain if you dont have the psychological withstanding to withstand it, because it's unconditional. Certain things may be harder to fit together for a majority of us because of the lifestyles we've adopted, the ongoing survival mechanisms we've learned to accept unquestioningly. We dont ask ourselves "what if this all ended for us?", let alone live on the edge, follow our drives like acrobats walking on a long rope, below us a deep bottomless pit, not just ready to lose everything, but to gamble things for something we truly believe in. I've heard of LSD trippers who have jumped over roof after heavy doze because they believed in what they experienced that much, but I think it's just that those people might've lacked the ability to grasp the true relation between belief and reality. They're tied together as Jesus and placebo say, but it's a matter of how, to what and which extent.
I just say all this because I think it's the same faith you need in order to have true form of faith into Jesus, god or anything else, or what they teach. As they said, "place your faith unto me, place yourself unto my arms"... I can't remember how it went exactly. I just think it's the level of sincerity that counts to a good part.
This part, in particular, I think shows that Jesus might've been aware of placebo, of the power of belief unto anything you believe to be healing, is what makes your body heal better. Whether he was son of god or not (I believe we are all offsprings of something bigger than us, just a question of what it is and it's nature exactly), he seemed to have been definitely ahead of his time. Psychologically advanced man too. I dont think any of this or other earthly elevation of his abilities shuts out the possibility of son-of-god nor even diminishes that possibility, but it might make things clearer.
Mikko-kun, on 12 April 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:
That DMT state, I think it's something when you become less caring about the presence of the possibility of death and life's border because it's already so evidently there, and instead become more aware of what's things like happiness, start to think things like who would be the one person you'd truly wish to have said one word more, perhaps, things like that. It's not a state which is easy to sustain if you dont have the psychological withstanding to withstand it, because it's unconditional. Certain things may be harder to fit together for a majority of us because of the lifestyles we've adopted, the ongoing survival mechanisms we've learned to accept unquestioningly. We dont ask ourselves "what if this all ended for us?", let alone live on the edge, follow our drives like acrobats walking on a long rope, below us a deep bottomless pit, not just ready to lose everything, but to gamble things for something we truly believe in. I've heard of LSD trippers who have jumped over roof after heavy doze because they believed in what they experienced that much, but I think it's just that those people might've lacked the ability to grasp the true relation between belief and reality. They're tied together as Jesus and placebo say, but it's a matter of how, to what and which extent.
I just say all this because I think it's the same faith you need in order to have true form of faith into Jesus, god or anything else, or what they teach. As they said, "place your faith unto me, place yourself unto my arms"... I can't remember how it went exactly. I just think it's the level of sincerity that counts to a good part.
This part, in particular, I think shows that Jesus might've been aware of placebo, of the power of belief unto anything you believe to be healing, is what makes your body heal better. Whether he was son of god or not (I believe we are all offsprings of something bigger than us, just a question of what it is and it's nature exactly), he seemed to have been definitely ahead of his time. Psychologically advanced man too. I dont think any of this or other earthly elevation of his abilities shuts out the possibility of son-of-god nor even diminishes that possibility, but it might make things clearer.
I think about things like the placebo effect a lot . The childlike faith staement reminds me of that, you know , where Jesus said that. I think that childlike faith is so simple , just like the placebo effect , yet at times we think to hard about things , sometimes even find ourselves worring , which he also said to never do.
The mind is the key to everything isn't it ; to so much more than science will ever discover .Someone once told me that when we die we will have no consiousness ; that was one of the most saddest things I've ever heard , I don't believe that to be true . On another note , someone else once told me that when we die we enter back into our most natural state of being , Spiritbeing. I don't think science will ever fully be able to test or experiment all that the mind is capable of so they can state it is as fact .
You mentioned that Jesus may have been before his time , some people say that such people as that are old souls , those who have reincarnted . I can't say if that is the case with him or not , but , I totally agree with you in saying that he was way ahead of his time.
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