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#16    White Crane Feather

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:45 PM

View PostRafterman, on 24 April 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:



Perhaps, but that in no way gives credence to the notion of out of body experiences, astral projection, etc.
Why not? I'd say millions of people haveing out of body experiences does Indeed give credence to the idea that conciousness perception might be able to happen out of body.  Not proof but certainly significant.  I'll go out on a limb here and say this common human experience is probably why we have the concept in the first place.



You said that scientists understand what is happening. In fact scientists don't even really know why we sleep much less OOBEs.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 07:57 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 26 April 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Why not? I'd say millions of people haveing out of body experiences does Indeed give credence to the idea that conciousness perception might be able to happen out of body.  Not proof but certainly significant.

Millions of people have not yet provably recalled seeing something during one of these experiences that they couldn't have normally seen.

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You said that scientists understand what is happening. In fact scientists don't even really know why we sleep much less OOBEs.

Of course that doesn't mean they're real.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 05:26 AM

seeker, scientists know a great deal about why we sleep actually.  It is a time for the brain to rest/sort information/memories, and for cells to regenerate/repair just to name a few.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 09:25 AM

View PostRafterman, on 23 April 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

Textbook sleep paralysis - plain and simple.
Textbook OBE - plain and simple.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 06:23 PM

View Postscowl, on 29 April 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

Millions of people have not yet provably recalled seeing something during one of these experiences that they couldn't have normally seen.
Doesn't recall doesn't mean they didn't experience it.
You don't recall a math formula of the 12th grade doesn't mean it's not there.
In some OBE, I've seen some most beautiful things that I ever ever see in my life, yet they are just clean but colorful lake with flowers and grass around, shining stars on the sky. None of these image could ever be found in a textbook or 3D movies, even with the most advanced technology we have. Say, like in a garden of Eden!


View PostCakeOrDeath, on 30 April 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

seeker, scientists know a great deal about why we sleep actually.  It is a time for the brain to rest/sort information/memories, and for cells to regenerate/repair just to name a few.
Who cares about sleep. We're talking about OBE. That doesn't explain why some people have obe, some doesn't. If it's just about sorting information, then everyone should experience the same.





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