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Best Evidence - Top 10 UFO Cases
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 08:24 PM
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 09:03 PM
As for the Nuremberg wood carving from 1561, I have no explanation for that one. Never have. Ditto for the Skylab UFO in 1973, an 800-foot UFO that was 20-30 miles away. I regard that as a good UFO case. I do agree that the astronauts were always the cream of the crop, the "best of the best", and that if they saw UFOs out there then they were real.
I think the witnesses were telling the truth about Malmstrom in 1967, and the ravings of James Carlson never convinced me otherwise. Not at all, in fact. There have been other instances of UFO interference with missiles over the years.
Shag Harbor is one of the best UFO cases of all time, and better-documented than most, although we still don't have the complete record of what the divers saw down there. That's the point where the screen usually gets put up, at the moment they get really close to the ETs or whatever they are.
From history, I know that the treatment of "primitives in the neighborhood" has never been very good, to put it mildly, and that some empires will attempt to control them or feel they have some kind of mission to "civilize' them.
I think the witnesses were telling the truth about Malmstrom in 1967, and the ravings of James Carlson never convinced me otherwise. Not at all, in fact. There have been other instances of UFO interference with missiles over the years.
Shag Harbor is one of the best UFO cases of all time, and better-documented than most, although we still don't have the complete record of what the divers saw down there. That's the point where the screen usually gets put up, at the moment they get really close to the ETs or whatever they are.
From history, I know that the treatment of "primitives in the neighborhood" has never been very good, to put it mildly, and that some empires will attempt to control them or feel they have some kind of mission to "civilize' them.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 09:47 PM
Great post,
Very compelling evidence especially the texas sighting by the USAF with the signal coming from the the UFO.
Raises all the right questions for me!
Very compelling evidence especially the texas sighting by the USAF with the signal coming from the the UFO.
Raises all the right questions for me!
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:01 AM
excellent post!! Was it just me or did the female narrating sound sexy as hell
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 08:25 AM
R4z3rsPar4d0x, on 24 September 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:
excellent post!! Was it just me or did the female narrating sound sexy as hell
That was pretty much all I got from that clip aswell. The rest was just the same ol same.
I still await the compelling Exhibit A.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 04:32 AM
- Great video thanks. For posting
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 12:53 AM
Hazzard, on 24 September 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:
That was pretty much all I got from that clip aswell. The rest was just the same ol same.
Yeah because it's usually not a female voice narrating, I liked it
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:15 AM
Real good video, and liked the female narration as well...
I wish we could harnass that underwater technology so that we humans could finally explore the biggest mystery of our own planet. The depths...
There has got to be a way to reduce friction underwater and achieve better speed and depths. At the rate we are going it would take a Thousand years to map and cover all the deep water in the world, salt and fresh.
* NOTE - that's my own exaggeration of time but it seems like progress there is slow and at the low end of dollars going into it.
Just my 2cents
I wish we could harnass that underwater technology so that we humans could finally explore the biggest mystery of our own planet. The depths...
There has got to be a way to reduce friction underwater and achieve better speed and depths. At the rate we are going it would take a Thousand years to map and cover all the deep water in the world, salt and fresh.
* NOTE - that's my own exaggeration of time but it seems like progress there is slow and at the low end of dollars going into it.
Just my 2cents
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:48 PM
TheMacGuffin, on 23 September 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:
As for the Nuremberg wood carving from 1561, I have no explanation for that one. Never have. Ditto for the Skylab UFO in 1973, an 800-foot UFO that was 20-30 miles away. I regard that as a good UFO case. I do agree that the astronauts were always the cream of the crop, the "best of the best", and that if they saw UFOs out there then they were real.
How did the astronauts measure the distance as 20-30 miles?
Can any case be 'good' if nobody but believers gets to comment on it?
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:54 PM
I always found it curious that the lines-of-sight to the Trent/McMinnville object crossed beneath an overhead power line that was usually conveniently cropped out of most published versions of the photos, and one other photo on the same roll had one of the Trent kids standing by a stepladder in the yard with a mischievous grin on his face. I'd bet not 1 UFO buff in 1,000,000 has ever seen -- or been shown -- THAT photo. Anybody hereabouts?
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:17 PM
JimOberg, on 26 October 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:
How did the astronauts measure the distance as 20-30 miles?
Can any case be 'good' if nobody but believers gets to comment on it?
Can any case be 'good' if nobody but believers gets to comment on it?
If I recall, the astronauts noted the object was travelling the same speed as they were. As they orbited they measured the time it passed into Earth's shadow (or out of, can't recall which) then noted how long before they passed into (or out of) the shadow. Knowing their orbital speed, they then calculated the approximate distance to the object. Using that distance and the angular distance from one end of the object to the other, they could calculate the length of the UFO.
It was something like that. The method and math used were very understandable.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:20 PM
JimOberg, on 26 October 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:
I always found it curious that the lines-of-sight to the Trent/McMinnville object crossed beneath an overhead power line that was usually conveniently cropped out of most published versions of the photos, and one other photo on the same roll had one of the Trent kids standing by a stepladder in the yard with a mischievous grin on his face. I'd bet not 1 UFO buff in 1,000,000 has ever seen -- or been shown -- THAT photo. Anybody hereabouts?
The pic of the kid on a ladder has been shown around here a few times. Dismissed by those that believe the UFO angle, as usual of course. Too much for just a coincidence in my opinion.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:26 PM
John Rayne, on 01 October 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:
There has got to be a way to reduce friction underwater and achieve better speed and depths.
Just my 2cents
Just my 2cents
I thought this was acheived by heating the outer shell of an abject so that it boils the water around it creating air bubbles. That way its like passing through air instead of water. As for depths thats a different matter.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:39 PM
ITs good to have questions,and answers,the Trick is Getting the Facts . That would answer a lot of these cases. Too many loose ends. 
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:45 PM
JimOberg, on 26 October 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:
I always found it curious that the lines-of-sight to the Trent/McMinnville object crossed beneath an overhead power line that was usually conveniently cropped out of most published versions of the photos, and one other photo on the same roll had one of the Trent kids standing by a stepladder in the yard with a mischievous grin on his face. I'd bet not 1 UFO buff in 1,000,000 has ever seen -- or been shown -- THAT photo. Anybody hereabouts?
Caught you on NASA's Unexplained Files. Pretty cool.
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