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#46    hooko22

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:18 AM

View PostKoreyomg, on 04 January 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

May not be the right forum. But I have heard this a lot lately from some very spiritual people. And actually recently found it in a philosophical book by Deepak Chopra. Basically stating that we are our own god. Or I believe someone pointed to their head when asked about god.

It kind of makes more sense than a lot of other claims. To say that we are our own creator, so in essence we are god, our own god.

Is this something that is a popular belief or am I just coincidentally seeing this? I am really interested to hear what others have come to believe.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:26 AM

View PostBeany, on 05 January 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

It's a currently popular belief but has been around for a long time. There are some profound religions & philosophical beliefs around this that most people don't bother to explore, settling instead for the pop meaning and skating on the surface rather than looking more deeply. I think people neglect to think about the responsibilities entailed in being god or god-like, the self-discipline, the sacrifice, the acquisition of knowledge, etc.

I agree. Without intent of disrespect I do feel as though most are taught to remain ignorant to philosophy and trust their religious teachings. Which in my open leaves them to drop their "sins" on a trustworthy savior and god rather than dealing with the karma themselves.

View Posthooko22, on 05 January 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

Your mommy and daddy are your gods.

I can see why you would say that. I love my parents unconditionally however I do not believe my birth was my creation, simply a continuation of an ongoing evolution.

Edited by Koreyomg, 05 January 2013 - 05:28 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:13 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 04 January 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Non sequitur

Yes?


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

View PostKoreyomg, on 04 January 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

May not be the right forum. But I have heard this a lot lately from some very spiritual people. And actually recently found it in a philosophical book by Deepak Chopra. Basically stating that we are our own god. Or I believe someone pointed to their head when asked about god.

It kind of makes more sense than a lot of other claims. To say that we are our own creator, so in essence we are god, our own god.

Is this something that is a popular belief or am I just coincidentally seeing this? I am really interested to hear what others have come to believe.

Of course your not god, if you were, you would not need to seek an answer the question.  Those new age freaks are crazy.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 04 January 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

lol - but, but isn't a God supposed to be wise? :whistle:

So why create us?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

View PostKoreyomg, on 05 January 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

I agree. Without intent of disrespect I do feel as though most are taught to remain ignorant to philosophy and trust their religious teachings. Which in my open leaves them to drop their "sins" on a trustworthy savior and god rather than dealing with the karma themselves.



I can see why you would say that. I love my parents unconditionally however I do not believe my birth was my creation, simply a continuation of an ongoing evolution.

I think religion and spirituality have generally become absorbed into the pop culture, and are often expressed in simplistic terms that to the uninformed pass for knowledge, when in fact it is only the tip of the ice berg. I'm conflicted about this, because while I think it's good that the public is introduced to some of the ideas & philosophies I also know many people will believe they actually know something of value when all they're really doing is parroting the latest "guru" or "teacher" or "expert" and will never bother to dive deeper. IMHO, depth is necessary for a belief system that has value and will stand the test of time.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:07 PM

View PostJeffertonturner, on 04 January 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:


Walk up to a bear and tell it you're it's god. See what happens. ;)
Depending on what kind of bear it it is, it will probably run from you. A better example would va a great white shark. Swim up and declare your divinity.

Edited by Seeker79, 05 January 2013 - 09:07 PM.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

View PostKoreyomg, on 04 January 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

May not be the right forum. But I have heard this a lot lately from some very spiritual people. And actually recently found it in a philosophical book by Deepak Chopra. Basically stating that we are our own god. Or I believe someone pointed to their head when asked about god.

It kind of makes more sense than a lot of other claims. To say that we are our own creator, so in essence we are god, our own god.

Is this something that is a popular belief or am I just coincidentally seeing this? I am really interested to hear what others have come to believe.
This sort of belief which I lean to words myself is rooted in the idea the "god" is a universal conciousness in which your particular ego is a finger of. For something to contain sentience it must have a self reflective quality. We are the observation part of god looking back upon itself. Sentience is a feed back loop. I am aware of myself being aware of myself being aware of myself being aware of myself on into infinum. Take your camcorder ( if there is such a thing anymore) and hook it up to a television, the turn it on the television itself in real time. You will see a hall of images and a bright light at the end. Sound familure? You can hear it to. When Somone makes a mistake setting up a system with microphones. The sound of infinity at the speed of light usually makes everyone cringe. When I was 11 years old I heard a harmonic version of this in a vision/dream at the end of the tunnel with the light.

Interesting stuff and a very good topic. Thanks.

Edited by Seeker79, 05 January 2013 - 09:26 PM.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

View PostKoreyomg, on 04 January 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

It kind of makes more sense than a lot of other claims.

Really? Makes absolutely no sense to me. Care to explain?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:34 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 05 January 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

This sort of belief which I lean to words myself is rooted in the idea the "god" is a universal conciousness in which your particular ego is a finger of. For something to contain sentience it must have a self reflective quality. We are the observation part of god looking back upon itself. Sentience is a feed back loop. I am aware of myself being aware of myself being aware of myself being aware of myself on into infinum. Take your camcorder ( if there is such a thing anymore) and hook it up to a television, the turn it on the television itself in real time. You will see a hall of images and a bright light at the end. Sound familure? You can hear it to. When Somone makes a mistake setting up a system with microphones. The sound of infinity at the speed of light usually makes everyone cringe. When I was 11 years old I heard a harmonic version of this in a vision/dream at the end of the tunnel with the light.

Interesting stuff and a very good topic. Thanks.

Defiantly a good example, glad to hear you have similar beleifs. Must mean I am doing something right :tu:


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:41 PM

View PostAquilaChrysaetos, on 05 January 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

Really? Makes absolutely no sense to me. Care to explain?

Well in other words, I feel as though a lot of what we are taught as children can relate more to god being your own higher self rather than an external being of judgement.

Take heaven and hell for example. A lot of people fear the day of judgement when god decides if they sinned to much and will be denied the right to heaven. I think it makes more sense to believe that the only thing that judges us after life is ourselves with the help of karma

Edited by Koreyomg, 05 January 2013 - 10:43 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:48 PM

View PostKoreyomg, on 05 January 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

Well in other words, I feel as though a lot of what we are taught as children can relate more to god being your own higher self rather than an external being of judgement.

Take heaven and hell for example. A lot of people fear the day of judgement when god decides if they sinned to much and will be denied the right to heaven. I think it makes more sense to believe that the only thing that judges us after life is ourselves with the help of karma

Well, I can understand it if the belief is "God is a figment of our imagination" argument, you hear that all the time. What confused me was the wording, it sounds as if you're saying "we created ourselves" which is a scientific paradox that's just personally difficult to comprehend...

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:15 AM

View PostAquilaChrysaetos, on 05 January 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:



Well, I can understand it if the belief is "God is a figment of our imagination" argument, you hear that all the time. What confused me was the wording, it sounds as if you're saying "we created ourselves" which is a scientific paradox that's just personally difficult to comprehend...
It's only hard when you look at temporal causality from our limited perspective, when you look at quantum mechanics retro causality and normal causality work together. Indeed if there is any kind of fundamental creation it must be a tangled hierarchy.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:19 AM

It just doesn't make sense to me for creation to be caused by multiple conscious beings. For one gigantic cosmological blueprint of how the entire universe works to be constructed by multiple conscious beings, they would all have to agree on everything for it to work, which we know from history that such a thing has never happened.

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:30 AM

I believe there is a God and He is ONE.  And most importantly.... I'm not Him :)  
For one to believe themselves to be a god yet still be asking questions about existence is just confusing to me.....

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