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First Nazi Germany... now Nazi Russia?


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#16    spooks

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 09:57 AM

If Russia is turning Nazi,  never mind avoiding another war, Bush and Blair can stop assing around in Iraq, and deal with that, To have this happen again another time, would be a tragedy and quite frankly blooming stupid if our so called world leaders let it happen again.   Something needs to be investigated here, Jews and other races can not go through this again

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 01:28 PM

Yeah it makes you think doesn't it.  They're happy to expens billions in comparatively minor exercises like deposing Saddam (via a handy WMD story), but real world menaces like North Korea or Iran don't get touched.  Afghanistan and Iraq are small-fry compared to them.

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 03:16 PM

That's because North Korea and Iran are too powerful to take on. It's called the art of the possible. Iraq is doable. North Korea is not.

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 03:59 PM

regardless of the matter of who "we can take on".  Bush and Blair can get their asses in gear and deal with any Nazi c*** in Russia, instead of assing around making up stories to depose Saddam  ( and i agree he did need getting rid of) but we cant make up stories to do it,  Bush and Blair need to concentrate on the priorities<-- bad spelling  
like stopping a mini hitler from starting another Holocaust,  if they want to play tough world leaders, as the two of the main world powers they need to get their asses moving

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE(Redneck @ Jan 26 2005, 04:16 PM)
That's because North Korea and Iran are too powerful to take on. It's called the art of the possible. Iraq is doable. North Korea is not.

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Yeah I agree mate, but they weren't always too powerful... and could have been nipped in the bud a while before all resources were committed to Afghanistan and Iraq. sad.gif

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 07:58 PM

Ok, not NAZI Russia, ANTI-SEMATIC Russia, the Nazi's were a Facist political party.  Russia is not a facist country, any way you look at it.  By the way, communist and facist are bitter enemies, and hate eachother, and while Russia is no longer communist, a country that so recently was a communist country is not likely to turn facist so quickly.

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE(VampChilde18 @ Jan 27 2005, 07:58 PM)
Ok, not NAZI Russia, ANTI-SEMATIC Russia, the Nazi's were a Facist political party.  Russia is not a facist country, any way you look at it.  By the way, communist and facist are bitter enemies, and hate eachother, and while Russia is no longer communist, a country that so recently was a communist country is not likely to turn facist so quickly.

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Nazi and Facist dont go hand in hand do they? A nazi isnt necessairly a facist is he?

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE(Stellar @ Jan 27 2005, 08:01 PM)
QUOTE(VampChilde18 @ Jan 27 2005, 07:58 PM)
Ok, not NAZI Russia, ANTI-SEMATIC Russia, the Nazi's were a Facist political party.  Russia is not a facist country, any way you look at it.  By the way, communist and facist are bitter enemies, and hate eachother, and while Russia is no longer communist, a country that so recently was a communist country is not likely to turn facist so quickly.

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Nazi and Facist dont go hand in hand do they? A nazi isnt necessairly a facist is he?

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Of course they do.


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Posted 27 January 2005 - 08:14 PM

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Nazi and Facist dont go hand in hand do they? A nazi isnt necessairly a facist is he?


Nazi's are always fascist. That is the Political structure it is based on. But a fascist is not necessarilly a nazi. Mussolini was not a Nazi but he was a Fascist dictator.

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 08:20 PM

Communism, and facism DO NOT go hand in hand, but Democratic history lumps them together because we opposed both of them.  Communism really is a perfect society where everyone is equal, only that certain individuals by nature take advantage of the situation, and therefore the commune comes crashing down.  Facisms is a complete oposite devoted solely to a dictatorship.  One man ABOVE everyone else, not equal like the perfect commune (which has never truely existed)

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 08:36 PM

Ye lets all go tell Putin what to do in his own country,give me a break.

Dont you think Putin knows what is going on right now,give the man time to deal with it ,im sure he will if left alone by the usual crew


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Posted 27 January 2005 - 08:39 PM

No one really takes Nazi'z seriously anymore anyway. Chances of a Nazi Russia happening are nearly zero.

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 09:08 PM

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Nazi's are always fascist.


No, I dont think so... nazis today could be democratic, yet still nazis...

   1. often Fascism
         1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
         2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
   2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Nazism:
The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.

So I ask again, couldnt a Nazi follow the Nazi ideology (racism, pure blood lines, etc.) and not want fascism?




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Posted 28 January 2005 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE(strichar @ Jan 27 2005, 08:39 PM)
No one really takes Nazi'z seriously anymore anyway. Chances of a Nazi Russia happening are nearly zero.

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Strichar, everyone said Hitler wasnt serious and nothing would happen, look what happened there  no.gif

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