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why do people believe dinosaurs exist


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#1    ali smack

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

I don't understand how people can believe in them existing. it's just not likely at all. the food they'd have to eat would be imense, how would they survive exinction, the atmosphere and climate is totally different. its just not possible. but people still inisist on seeing them.
why?


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:25 PM

If you want to be pedantic, you could argually that dinosaurs do exist today.  Birds are descended from feathered theropod dinosaurs so cladistically they could be considered dinosaurs.  So people see dinosaurs everyday.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

Plus, there's Barney!


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:31 PM

and whoooo loves Barney ??

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:43 PM

Well..there is this inconvenient thing called "fossils" and then you have the whole 'carbon dating' and all that so the physical evidence speaks for itself.
And considering that most of the dinosaurs were lizards or partial lizards meant that they did not need to eat as often as mammals PLUS many were probably opportunistic feeders or carrion eaters.
Of course there are also the herbivores too.

The same questions can be asked of about any animal too..think of primates..most of them eat all day long yet there always seems to be enough for the trees and bushes to replenish. How about whales or elephants? They're huge, eat alot yet still exist.

Of course if you happen to be a Christian who believes the Earth is only 5000 years old and all the fossils are fakes planted by satan and/or god to fool us then this discussion is meaningless.

However many creatures did NOT survive as the Earth's climate and geology changed. Plants had to adapt as well..some developed tougher leaves to withstand different conditions which meant that animals had to either adapt to eating tougher fibers or die..which some did. Some plants died out too.

All life evolves; adapting to an ever-changing world. Some simply cannot adapt fast enough or well enough to survive.

Edited by Ryu, 26 February 2013 - 06:46 PM.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

View Postali smack, on 26 February 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

I don't understand how people can believe in them existing. it's just not likely at all. the food they'd have to eat would be imense, how would they survive exinction, the atmosphere and climate is totally different. its just not possible. but people still inisist on seeing them.
why?

I think the basic idea is like this.  Alligators have remained since then relatively unchanged as a species, except for growing smaller.  Perhaps the sauropods went through a similar process.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:50 PM

When there is a plethora of evidence supporting something then it is hardly a mere supposition or fable.
Life has a way of perpetuating even though it makes no sense to us.

There are underwater, volcanic vents spewing out scalding hot waters, much of which is acidic too yet there is a whole new biosphere surrounding these things. Life adapts...even if it is just a tiny amount, it is enough to ensure survival and allow a species to branch off and evolve into others variations....
Adapt or die. That is the one and only truth to life...equivalent exchange, if you will.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

I have dino`s living with me so ya they are real.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

I don't know about dinosaurs, but one of my friends is married to a dragon!


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

View Postali smack, on 26 February 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

I don't understand how people can believe in them existing. it's just not likely at all. the food they'd have to eat would be imense, how would they survive exinction, the atmosphere and climate is totally different. its just not possible. but people still inisist on seeing them.
why?
I know what you mean. Like for instance some saying Loch Ness monster is a plesiosaur. Apart from media and their desire for money, I think those who believe this don't have to many critical faculties, or any brains at all.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

View Postali smack, on 26 February 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

I don't understand how people can believe in them existing. it's just not likely at all. the food they'd have to eat would be imense, how would they survive exinction, the atmosphere and climate is totally different. its just not possible. but people still inisist on seeing them.
why?

I honestly have a trouble believing dinosaurs ever existed! Some of those things were as big as a house. How could they move around to eat enough food? How could they breathe? What heart could keep that much blood flowing through those gigantic bodies? I don't even want to think about how they mated.

I saw a plasticized corpse of a giraffe at a Body Worlds exhibit here and the scale of the innards of even that relatively small creature was amazing. The diaphragm looked like a small trampoline.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:16 PM

So are the dinosaurs at the natural history museum all a farce? Are the fossils all a farce?

Dinosaurs were on this planet far longer than humans have been.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:07 PM

View Postscowl, on 26 February 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

I honestly have a trouble believing dinosaurs ever existed! Some of those things were as big as a house. How could they move around to eat enough food? How could they breathe? What heart could keep that much blood flowing through those gigantic bodies? I don't even want to think about how they mated.

Hmm do you believe in whales then if you do how big is the heart of a blue whale.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:26 PM

View Postscowl, on 26 February 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

I honestly have a trouble believing dinosaurs ever existed! Some of those things were as big as a house. How could they move around to eat enough food? How could they breathe? What heart could keep that much blood flowing through those gigantic bodies? I don't even want to think about how they mated.

I saw a plasticized corpse of a giraffe at a Body Worlds exhibit here and the scale of the innards of even that relatively small creature was amazing. The diaphragm looked like a small trampoline.

View PostCRIPTIC CHAMELEON, on 26 February 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Hmm do you believe in whales then if you do how big is the heart of a blue whale.

The heart of a blue whale weighs about 1,300 lbs and the thoracic artery has an estimated diameter of 9 inches.  The largest accurately weighed blue whale was 177 metric tons.  The largest sauropod, Argentinosaurus, is estimated around 60-88 metric tons.  While being aquatic certainly helps the whale in supporting its mass, I doubt that it helps in pumping the blood throughout its body or respiration.

Given a majority of the dinosaurs were considerably smaller in weight, and recent studies suggest that weights have been over estimated, it would not be impossible for such a creature of half or even smaller in weight to have lived.

That being said, I think the OP was referring to surviving dinosaurs alive today, not in regards to them having lived in the past.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:13 PM

View PostRyu, on 26 February 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Well..there is this inconvenient thing called "fossils" and then you have the whole 'carbon dating' and all that so the physical evidence speaks for itself.
And considering that most of the dinosaurs were lizards or partial lizards meant that they did not need to eat as often as mammals PLUS many were probably opportunistic feeders or carrion eaters.
Of course there are also the herbivores too.

The same questions can be asked of about any animal too..think of primates..most of them eat all day long yet there always seems to be enough for the trees and bushes to replenish. How about whales or elephants? They're huge, eat alot yet still exist.

Of course if you happen to be a Christian who believes the Earth is only 5000 years old and all the fossils are fakes planted by satan and/or god to fool us then this discussion is meaningless.

However many creatures did NOT survive as the Earth's climate and geology changed. Plants had to adapt as well..some developed tougher leaves to withstand different conditions which meant that animals had to either adapt to eating tougher fibers or die..which some did. Some plants died out too.

All life evolves; adapting to an ever-changing world. Some simply cannot adapt fast enough or well enough to survive.


Lizards don't need to a lot, because they're cold blooded.  They now think some of the dinos were blooded.  If they were they would need to like mammals.

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