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#1156    AquilaChrysaetos

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:11 AM

Are we really delving into greek mythology for scientific evidence?... :hmm:

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:38 PM

Weeeeeellll i can see you guys aint serious bout this....sorry to post anything bout this....

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:50 PM

It's not that I'm not serious about it. It's just hard to take the subject seriously whaen almost everything about it seems to be based entirely on speculation... :hmm:

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:06 AM

:alien: I am seeing some interesting feedback here... I have experienced strong SMELLS when it comes to spirit presences. And now I just started having DREAMS where I can smell the being as well. Do you guys think there is a connection??


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:06 PM

A website with lots of info and people who write in with their experiences. http://www.shadowpeople.org/


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

I just joined this website because honestly i have a very bad feeling of what i believe is about to happen. i will also mention some people i know but their identity's will remain anonymous. In this post i will tell my story of the experiences i dealt with in contact with the Hooded Man, (or Hatman). whether anyone chooses to believe it or not is up to them. but this is my story.

It all started when i was six years old. i remember my father chasing me up the stairs to our two-story house in Hazard Kentucky. he would say that hes going to get me or the montser is going to get me. there was one night he was doing something and he told me to go on to bed. so as i always did, i "monkey-climbed" up the set of stairs we had that went to my bedroom. i heard something. when i turned around i saw a figure. it looked like a man very tall and dark, with a hood looking thing on his head. he also had a deck of cards in his hands he was shuffling them. i just looked down and stared at the strange man in my house until the entity made eye contact. my whole body froze and i was scared. then i whisper to myself, "your'e not real, your'e not real." and when i look again he smiles at me then he dissapears. i told my father about the incident but i was 6. i "tend to make things up". i then had night-terrors for weeks. and all of a sudden it stopped. and i never saw the hooded man again for 7 years.


i was 13, it was my first year of  7th grade in junior high school. i know longer lived in the same house in Hazard. i then lived in Middleburg Florida. it was September. i remember it very well. i went through a surgery and i started having nightmares after it. i thought it was nothing, just trauma form post-surgery. little did i know i was dead wrong. after weeks of nightmares and not a lot of sleep i developed what i thought was Insomnia, and after 3 months i couldn't tell what was fake and what was reality. i continuously had this re-occurring nightmare. I was trapped in a maze. there were was all around me. the walls were covered in a maroon colored blood. i would run the the impossible maze not knowing which way to turn it was so dark and finally i would escape. and again i would be surrounded in darkness. i look around and then thats when i see him. the Hooded man. i turn around and run back towards the direction of the maze and its gone and he is there in front of me. i turn around and start running. i dont know where but anywhere but to him. i run and i run but the harder and faster i run the slower i get. then i cant breath and he comes closer and he catches me.

one night when i was 13, i had that dream but instead of me just waking up from a nightmare, i wake up and he was standing right infront of my bed. i blinked for a split second and he was on top of me. i couldnt breathe or move any part of my body. i just layed there with the hooded man on top of me until i could force the words " GET OUT". and then i could move. and the hooded figure was gone. the nightmares stopped and i thought it was over.


then here i am at 16. i thought it was all over. but i think i am wrong. the nightmares are kicking themselves back up again and i am seeing Him again. i was recently talking to an old friend and she mentioned something to me about having a death wish. i am very scared and very worried about the upcoming nights and i am having a lot of trouble sleeping. i am getting to the point again where i don't know the difference between dreams and reality. if there is anyone out there who can provide me with tips or answers i desperately need your help. if u can u can email me at *snip* but please i want help. i dont know if i can take another encounter with that fiend.

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 15 January 2013 - 11:45 PM.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:08 AM

View PostFirebearer, on 15 January 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

I just joined this website because honestly i have a very bad feeling of what i believe is about to happen. i will also mention some people i know but their identity's will remain anonymous. In this post i will tell my story of the experiences i dealt with in contact with the Hooded Man, (or Hatman). whether anyone chooses to believe it or not is up to them. but this is my story.

It all started when i was six years old. i remember my father chasing me up the stairs to our two-story house in Hazard Kentucky. he would say that hes going to get me or the montser is going to get me. there was one night he was doing something and he told me to go on to bed. so as i always did, i "monkey-climbed" up the set of stairs we had that went to my bedroom. i heard something. when i turned around i saw a figure. it looked like a man very tall and dark, with a hood looking thing on his head. he also had a deck of cards in his hands he was shuffling them. i just looked down and stared at the strange man in my house until the entity made eye contact. my whole body froze and i was scared. then i whisper to myself, "your'e not real, your'e not real." and when i look again he smiles at me then he dissapears. i told my father about the incident but i was 6. i "tend to make things up". i then had night-terrors for weeks. and all of a sudden it stopped. and i never saw the hooded man again for 7 years.


i was 13, it was my first year of  7th grade in junior high school. i know longer lived in the same house in Hazard. i then lived in Middleburg Florida. it was September. i remember it very well. i went through a surgery and i started having nightmares after it. i thought it was nothing, just trauma form post-surgery. little did i know i was dead wrong. after weeks of nightmares and not a lot of sleep i developed what i thought was Insomnia, and after 3 months i couldn't tell what was fake and what was reality. i continuously had this re-occurring nightmare. I was trapped in a maze. there were was all around me. the walls were covered in a maroon colored blood. i would run the the impossible maze not knowing which way to turn it was so dark and finally i would escape. and again i would be surrounded in darkness. i look around and then thats when i see him. the Hooded man. i turn around and run back towards the direction of the maze and its gone and he is there in front of me. i turn around and start running. i dont know where but anywhere but to him. i run and i run but the harder and faster i run the slower i get. then i cant breath and he comes closer and he catches me.

one night when i was 13, i had that dream but instead of me just waking up from a nightmare, i wake up and he was standing right infront of my bed. i blinked for a split second and he was on top of me. i couldnt breathe or move any part of my body. i just layed there with the hooded man on top of me until i could force the words " GET OUT". and then i could move. and the hooded figure was gone. the nightmares stopped and i thought it was over.


then here i am at 16. i thought it was all over. but i think i am wrong. the nightmares are kicking themselves back up again and i am seeing Him again. i was recently talking to an old friend and she mentioned something to me about having a death wish. i am very scared and very worried about the upcoming nights and i am having a lot of trouble sleeping. i am getting to the point again where i don't know the difference between dreams and reality. if there is anyone out there who can provide me with tips or answers i desperately need your help. if u can u can email me at *snip* but please i want help. i dont know if i can take another encounter with that fiend.

Hello Firebearer

Well, you spoke to your parents about this when you were 6, did you discuss this with them again? What do they say? How did your parents let your condition get worse to this degree?! I hope you are genuine. :)

Anyway...

Nothing bad is about to happen. Don't worry about the "death wish" thing. If the entity wanted you dead, the attacks would be of entirely different kind.

Do you believe in God? If yes then seek His help. But if you are an atheist (well, atheists are rarely attacked) then maybe it's time to turn to God for help. Also indulge yourself in altruistic deeds as much as you can. Help those in need expecting nothing in return. Demons hate humanity more than they hate God.

The ones you are confused about being dreams or reality are probably astral projections. Don't be scared. The next time he comes, don't run and stand your ground and fight. The first few times it can be difficult and when the entity approaches, your astral body may be immobilized. Rage does help you set free. Nevertheless remembering God and not fearing the entity through out the experience is a must.

To deal with the nightmares, begin practicing lucid dreaming. Make another thread in dreams and conciousness section for that.

You can PM me anytime if you need help. :)


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:35 AM

Yeah, if your astral body starts to get affected things are really going wrong here. As your astral body is essentially your soul it would mean he's taking over your body, as I said, very bad. Very unlikely though, so focusing on the subject again.

I do agree that turning to God would be your best bet here. If you're Christian banishing the shadow in Jesus name would pretty much solve the problem right there. If not, I don't really have much that can help you not related to it. If you really wanted to split hairs I know holy oil would work. just draw a cross on your door and forehead. Stuff creates a barrier demons can't cross (and besides seeing and feeling it's effectiveness, it is mentioned in the bible itself). If you're not willing to try that, I can't help you sorry *shrugs*

edit: as to the astral thing, I do have a friend where a demon attempted this. As I said, not good...

Edited by shadowx, 16 January 2013 - 06:39 AM.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

I think your seeing things


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:14 PM

View PostXingWi, on 05 December 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Its a funny sight, how when they want to lead people somewhere they often just lift their one hand and point in the direction. Without saying anything. Blank. Mute.

What? Where? You want me to go there?  Alright got it!

Next time... Hello sir! can I get the directions to hell again, please? My coffee is not hot enough. :P


That's it.

You'll never get directions though, and you can't turn back.  It's hard to say it was worth it. In fact it wouldn't be hell if it was worth it. It's not like "war is hell" because only hell is hell. You don't want to go there, which is why they remain silent when you are on the way.

"How can someone prove that a rainbow exists to a blind man?"

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:07 AM

View Postmarkprice, on 06 February 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:

That's it.

You'll never get directions though, and you can't turn back.  It's hard to say it was worth it. In fact it wouldn't be hell if it was worth it. It's not like "war is hell" because only hell is hell. You don't want to go there, which is why they remain silent when you are on the way.

My last sentence in the quote was just a joke.

Of course they won't tell you where they are leading you because deception is in their very nature. Most of the time the victim is totally clueless of what is or about to happen to him if he follows them. And that puts him into a huge disadvantage. A perfect prey.

I agree with you totally that their actual domain is "hell". I have no doubt about that after seeing what I saw and based on the accounts of countless other experiencers. Those that have seen their abodes know with certainty where they originate from. There is a little difference between our beliefs though (if there is any difference). Being a believer in the transcendent *Just* God and an astraller at the same time, I'm forced to differentiate between the eternal hell that the scriptures speak of and the astral hell, the lower dark plane that is reported by some saints in their "visions" of hell. A gloomy place that is not just fire but is also filled with dark and cold putrid atmosphere at the same time, with huge rivers overflowing with thick black sewage and filth. I'm interested to know your thoughts on this.

I think your knowledge too, about them emerging from hell comes from your experiences with them. I would say it was worth it. You can't know the light unless you know the darkness. Experiences contribute to beliefs to the extent that these start becoming like facts for the experiencer. And that is when he is able to differentiate between knowing and believing.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:42 AM

Firebearer, you'll probably be fine. Like you, I experienced nightmares and night terrors after I saw a shadow being. They eventually stopped. It was like I outgrew them. You'll likely do the same thing. Pray for deliverance if you think that this experience isn't just normal sleep paralysis. Remember that our eyes and minds can play tricks on us. That's especially true when we have waking dreams.

There is one reality with billions of versions.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:00 AM

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My last sentence in the quote was just a joke.


Yeah I got that but there's also truth there like any good joke.

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Of course they won't tell you where they are leading you because deception is in their very nature. Most of the time the victim is totally clueless of what is or about to happen to him if he follows them. And that puts him into a huge disadvantage. A perfect prey.


Very true.


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I agree with you totally that their actual domain is "hell". I have no doubt about that after seeing what I saw and based on the accounts of countless other experiencers. Those that have seen their abodes know with certainty where they originate from. There is a little difference between our beliefs though (if there is any difference). Being a believer in the transcendent *Just* God and an astraller at the same time, I'm forced to differentiate between the eternal hell that the scriptures speak of and the astral hell, the lower dark plane that is reported by some saints in their "visions" of hell. A gloomy place that is not just fire but is also filled with dark and cold putrid atmosphere at the same time, with huge rivers overflowing with thick black sewage and filth. I'm interested to know your thoughts on this.


You don't know my beliefs, if I had any. God has always been a reality for me but I never thought hell was real until I got there. I don't mean a vision or a visit; I mean everything on the line with little chance of escape. My whole life was thrown under the bus for something I did not understand. The scriptures just paint a vague picture of hell and I would include Dante's Inferno etc. It's cold, it's hot, it's dry, it's vast and it sucks. Different people see different parts of it.


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I think your knowledge too, about them emerging from hell comes from your experiences with them. I would say it was worth it. You can't know the light unless you know the darkness. Experiences contribute to beliefs to the extent that these start becoming like facts for the experiencer. And that is when he is able to differentiate between knowing and believing.

Welcome back. :tu:



I don't think I can ever say it was worth it. Maybe if things had turned out okay I could say that. I used to think if I mastered meditation and reached nirvana then everything would be okay eventually. But even if you do everything you need to do something can still hit you on your blind side. The mystics will say it was a lesson from the subconscious and even if they are right it doesn't make things alright. I guess that's my problem: I know what they refuse to tell so I can't be fooled again. All I can do now is recover from surgeries and probably be forced to sell my house on the mountain due to side effects. No it was not worth it especially when I was so close to being able to say it was all worth it. But that's just me and everyone gets a different piece of the astral/eternal puzzle so results may vary.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:22 AM

View Postmarkprice, on 07 February 2013 - 05:00 AM, said:

Yeah I got that but there's also truth there like any good joke.




Very true.





You don't know my beliefs, if I had any. God has always been a reality for me but I never thought hell was real until I got there. I don't mean a vision or a visit; I mean everything on the line with little chance of escape. My whole life was thrown under the bus for something I did not understand. The scriptures just paint a vague picture of hell and I would include Dante's Inferno etc. It's cold, it's hot, it's dry, it's vast and it sucks. Different people see different parts of it.






I don't think I can ever say it was worth it. Maybe if things had turned out okay I could say that. I used to think if I mastered meditation and reached nirvana then everything would be okay eventually. But even if you do everything you need to do something can still hit you on your blind side. The mystics will say it was a lesson from the subconscious and even if they are right it doesn't make things alright. I guess that's my problem: I know what they refuse to tell so I can't be fooled again. All I can do now is recover from surgeries and probably be forced to sell my house on the mountain due to side effects. No it was not worth it especially when I was so close to being able to say it was all worth it. But that's just me and everyone gets a different piece of the astral/eternal puzzle so results may vary.

Maybe I didn't express it properly. When speaking of our beliefs and differences between them, I meant only what pertains to the origin of shadow demons from hell, in particular. From what I have read about your experiences that you have posted earlier in this thread, I am able to interpret your particular belief in this area. And this is where I agree with you that they come from hell. Otherwise there are a lot of differences between our beliefs. You mentioned "tara" earlier for instance... well, I am a big critic of Buddhism. You have mentioned Dante's inferno... well, I think it is either fraud or manipulated and overblown to confirm to a bigoted view of a particular group. I also believe that many saints have misinterpreted their "visions" of hell because I believe that the hell that the scriptures speak of is different from the sorrowful realm of the lower planes that those saints have experienced. Well it goes on... but lets put aside these differences for now and focus on what we agree on. The origin of shadow demons. "Hell". Their connection to Satan. Yes, that answers a whole lot of questions. I'm also interested to know if you have met Satan himself. And by that I mean the devil and not a devil among the devils.

Mark, I think your case adds more strength to your viewpoint because you have experienced hell without believing in it. That stops anyone from countering it by claiming that you have experienced it only because of your particular belief or particular mindset. I believe that hell exists whether you believe in it or not. I have collected countless accounts of people who were "taken" to "hell" by shadow entities, their actual domain, and those include accounts of children who were totally unaware of any such idea, leave alone their belief in any heaven or hell.

"Puzzle" about the astral/eternal. Tell you what, I have been banging my head on the wall over this for 20 years now and this is the question that still bothers me most. Although, I have reasons to believe that the lower plane is subject to death and destruction just like the physical realm. I believe that eventually it will cease to exist. And the wretched among its inhabitants will themselves face punishment in hell once all this is done with. You are entitled to disagee though.

What are the side effects and surgeries you are speaking about? You mean that the torment extended to the physical realm? If possible please share. I don't believe in what those "mystics" say either. What if they are themselves deceived? Many among them tend to lull themselves into believing something that goes right against human intuition. Over-optimism and self-deception, neither of these two can stop the real harm that is coming your way.

Edited by XingWi, 07 February 2013 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:14 PM

I can only put my warning across, however whether you beleive or not is up to you.

I have been investigating the paranormal of EVP's and conducted experiments using the Echovox Spirit Voice Generator, to see whether i could receive any responses.
i was able to communicate with my spirit guide, at the point i made communication the spirit guide would not give me their name, however i asked if they would offer protection when i conducted an experiment to contact the Shadow People. Their direct response was "What right do they have to protect you" during the session i heard distinctly "how can i tell him not to do it" push him " push him"

The interesting result i uncovered was the following "IF YOU EVER ESTABLISH CONNECTION" BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN" BUT YOU WILL DIE"

i would attach the file, but it's too big 4meg size, if anyone wants to listen email me on david.bedford28@googlemail.com

it was done through audiacy.

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Edited by dave1983, 07 February 2013 - 01:16 PM.





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