Rainbow Warriors

[Virtual Particle]

INTRODUCTION

The Rainbow held special significance among the people of the land. Prophesies and stories of many nations, from the Hopi and Zuni in the Southwest to the Cherokee in the Southeast, from the Cree in the far north, the great Sioux nations of the plains, to the Mayan people of the far south, the Rainbow was a focal point of spiritual belief.

The rainbow was a sign of the omnipotent grace of the Great Mystery. It was by grace, freely given, unmerited favor and love of the Creator that allowed our people to walk this earth in respect for thousands of years barely leaving a footprint. It was also a focal point and great sign of the Place of Peace, Manataka. For the Creator chose Manataka to display this beautiful phenomena of nature in a spectacular and unique way

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[Piney]

I am a "Keeper of Lore" for my tribe, the Nanticoke-Lenni Lenape. But our own children do not listen anymore let alone the Yengi'. It is a lost cause......

Lapi'che ni'tis

[Virtual Particle]

The time has come science has begun to catch up with us.......

What happens when a particle of matter is diffracted, this being the same way photons of light are affected when processed through a prism?

Mayan pyramids diffract sound wave and it is because of this that Mayan sound technology is possible. The reality is ancient man knew something that today is still not fully understood.

Let me be clear that a matter wave when diffracted becomes non linear then beyond any shadow of doubt, what we call normal, is a state in which that matter has been diffracted once before.

What happens when a matter wave is diffracted?

?????????

Why do Mayan pyramids diffract sound waves?

http://www.ocasa.org/MayanPyramid2.htm

http://www.acoustics.org/press/147th/sanchez.htm

http://www.vastu-design.com/ht-article.htm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/science...z1c15audio.html

Any thoughts?

[Yelekiah]

The rainbow was a sign of the omnipotent grace of the Great Mystery.

I know it's not related, but a rainbow in the Talmud was like a promise from God that he would never flood the world again.

I wasn't aware that it diffracted soundwaves. That's really interesing. The acoustics in the Great Pyramid are really strange too.

[Virtual Particle]

An important issue with regards to ancient floods (in respect to recorded history) is the matter of our most recent Ice Age. Once it began to end, floods across most of this world would occur. In relation to the Gulf of Mexico, a City has been found deep just off the island of Cuba.

There was a time when the Caribbean was a much different place. This was before the great flood which was the result of the end of the most recent ice age.

Atlantes was the home of the enlightened ones, it was the home of the Toltec

An important consideration is that floods as a result of the most recent Ice Age occurred about 30,000 years ago

Any thoughts?

[Yelekiah]

A lot of glaciers melted roughly 10,000 years ago.

http://www.glaciallakemissoula.org/story.html

[Virtual Particle]

You know Yelekiah I do not have a problem with conclusions in relation to when it happened exactly. A world flood did occur and as a result the people that were left alive reacted......

Any thoughts?

[Yelekiah]

Well the problem with that is that there were many local floods which may have given the illusion that there was a world flood. However, there was supposedly a comet that struck the earth around 7640 BC, and another around 3150 BC (the time of Noah's Flood in the Old Testament). The tidal waves may have been massive and could have traveled at 400 mph.

[Piney]

An important issue with regards to ancient floods (in respect to recorded history) is the matter of our most recent Ice Age. Once it began to end, floods across most of this world would occur. In relation to the Gulf of Mexico, a City has been found deep just off the island of Cuba.

There was a time when the Caribbean was a much different place. This was before the great flood which was the result of the end of the most recent ice age.

Atlantes was the home of the enlightened ones, it was the home of the Toltec

An important consideration is that floods as a result of the most recent Ice Age occurred about 30,000 years ago

Any thoughts?

The most feasible hypothesis is the Olmecs who became the Maya came from Africa. They later convalesced with other tribes to become the Toltec. Dr. Dianne Bonita Evans an Oxford scholar at William Patterson University wrote many articles on this. They show many African features in their humanoid statues. Also the gourds they grew are a genetic match to the ones that grow in Africa. Can you provide us with a source to this lost city?

Lapi'che

Edit: Wrong date and people. I gotta call her a copy of that paper.

Edited December 16, 2005 by Piney

[Me_Again]

I have heard of the rainbow warriors...maybe before the earth undergoes whatever transformation is next, we should go into the pyramids. I pray that Mother Earth will renew herself and that we will experience heaven on earth, once again

*starts looking for real estate near a pyramid

[Piney]

An important consideration is that floods as a result of the most recent Ice Age occurred about 30,000 years ago

Any thoughts?

Those floods occured roughly between 10,000 and 20,000 years ago. Yel posted the link for Missoula which is where the Algonquian flood legend stems from. The Muskogean (Iroquoian-Siouian) flood occured when Lake Iroquois a similar glacier lake where the current Great Lakes are now broke loose about 15,000 years ago.

Lapi'che

[Yelekiah]

The most feasible hypothesis is the Toltecs came from Africa roughly 15,000 years ago.

Interesting that you mentioned that, Piney. I think it's feasible. Do you know anything about the Olmecs? They have a lot of Negroid features on the statues.

[Piney]

Interesting that you mentioned that, Piney. I think it's feasible. Do you know anything about the Olmecs? They have a lot of Negroid features on the statues.

Them too. I just edited that post. I was thinking about the flood date when I wrote that. I don't want to post any facts out of memory. Now my interest is piqued I want to read her article again. There was apparently a Micronesian migration too that she wrote about and they have similar features to Africans.

Lapiche naXi'simus

[Yelekiah]

I'll definitely look into that, sounds like a cool article.

[Piney]

O.K." The Olmec suddenly appeared about 12,000 B.C. They later moved into Yucatan and might have become the Maya. The Maya and other tribes were absorbed into the Toltec ( whose royalty claimed they were descendants of Quetzalcoatl) who were later severly depopulated by Disease and famine. The remaining Toltec "townships" then absorbed a influx of Chichimec who married their royalty and became the Aztec. The Chichimec spoke Nahuatl a Ute language related to Comanche, Hopi, and Shoshone and like the Bulgars imposed their native tongue on the Toltec population." Burland. 1961, Stuart. 1963 , Prescott .1970

I messed up it was the Olmec who probably originated in Africa. C'mn Yel. You know this is a late night for me I'm a old guy....

Lapi'che

[Yelekiah]

Quetzalcoatl

Is this the feathered serpent? From what I understand it is the archetype of the divine human (if it is).

You know this is a late night for me

Are you kidding me? You're on a roll.

Good info.

[Piney]

Is this the feathered serpent? From what I understand it is the archetype of the divine human (if it is).

The 'bearded priest king' Ce Acatl Topiltzin who ruled the Toltec and brought Tula the capital to it's zenith and brought the Toltec to their "golden age" (Stuart. 1970) took his name and made him the foremost god. What the feathered serpent represents I haven't a clue.

Now my desk is a mess... my filing cabinet is all over and the least of my interests is Middle and South America :angry2: I only suffered through it :angry2: :angry2:

@#$%%^%$#@

Lapi'che HAH!

[Virtual Particle]

Interesting responses Yelekiah, I understand the various issues in relation to world floods. But in respect to the end of an ice age the term "world flood" (from what I understand) would be suggestive of what would have actually happened. Furthermore and in literal sense territories that are now 100s of feet under water were once dry land (prior to the event in question.).

In relation to the Caribbean for example this would change substantially the appearance of the general area in question. Giving today what has have identified the remnants of at least one city 600

meters under water (to be clear in no way do I consider this to be the only one or that such structures as this, will not be found elsewhere in the world).

A point for consideration is that given our current level of development. Had homo-sapiens come into being upon earth a minimum of 30,000 years prior to the most recent ice age could have they developed a culture of substance? One which could have developed a database, equal to ours in certain respects?

That Mayan Pyramids diffract sound is more than simply a coincidence. In all likelihood it relates fundamental aspects of there system of belief. In other words what was done was intended as a symbol of something that to them was extremely important.

We know for instance that ancient man systems of belief place substantial emphasis upon the orientation of all animate and inanimate forms as being interconnected (For example Gia or Mother Earth based religions). Such an orientation has been supported within the context of modern physics in relation to existence from the point of view of sub-atomic matter.

Allow a light wave to travel through a prism and one gets a spectrum of colors, place another prism in front of those spectrum of colors and it returns to white light.

Photons most often are the product of changes to matter (for example heat).

Could what separates us (internally) be no different than what separates the colors of a rainbow?

A fairly good explanation into the origins of Quetzalcoatl is attached. There are some disparities in relation to this document and how I was educated, with regards, to who Topiltzin Ce Acatl Quetzalcoatl parents were, but nonetheless it makes relevant points.

History presents that Dinosaurs were wiped out about 65 million years ago and this led to the development of mammals. Prior to this event the development of mammals on earth had not gone beyond such animals as (for example) gophers. If they survived, what about those dinosaurs which in relation of size matched those early rodents.

Clearly the ability to fly would have been an advantage and it is also true that these days much evidence exist that birds are in fact the ancestors of ancient dinosaurs. Hence the term feathered serpent could be a term used by a culture who understood the origin of birds as we understand it today.

Yelekiah you are correct in your implication that the term suggests a divine human but would offer that perhaps a "more evolved" human is also applicable.

Any thoughts?

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[Piney]

In relation to the Caribbean for example this would change substantially the appearance of the general area in question. Giving today what has have identified the remnants of at least one city 600

meters under water (to be clear in no way do I consider this to be the only one or that such structures as this, will not be found elsewhere in the world).

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This was a Phoenician port. It is common knowledge among my people (The Nanticoke) that they traded with us long before any European was in the Americas.

Lapi'che

[Virtual Particle]

Evidence of ancient city found in depths off Cuba (best article yet)

Toronto Global and Mail ^ | 12/7/01 | MICHAEL POSNER

Posted on 12/12/2001 10:37:07 PM PST by spycatcher

A team of Canadian and Cuban researchers have discovered the remains of what may be a 6,000-year-old city submerged in deep ocean waters off the western coast of Cuba.

Using sophisticated sonar and videotape equipment, offshore engineer Paulina Zelitsky, her husband, Paul Weinzweig, and her son, Ernesto Tapanes, have found megaliths "of a kind you'd find at Stonehenge or Easter Island," Mr. Weinzweig said in an interview yesterday.

The sonar images, he added, bear a remarkable resemblance to the pyramidal design of Mayan and Aztec temples in Mexico.

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In 1985, a dive tour operator in Yonaguni, Japan, Kihachiro Aratake, was looking for new places to take divers.He explored the southeast side of the island, and was astonished to find a 300-foot long megalithic structure that appeared to be man-made. It took years for the discovery to be noticed outside the diving tour operator network, but in 1996, Professor Masaaki Kimura, a geologist at the University of the Ryukyus on Okinawa, surveyed and documented the structure. Other city structures have been found in the general area since 1996, but few people have been allowed to dive to them.

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NICOSIA (Reuters) - An American researcher on the trail of the lost city of Atlantis has discovered evidence of man-made structures submerged in the sea between Cyprus and Syria, a member of his team said Saturday.

Robert Sarmast, who is convinced the fabled city lurks in the watery depths off Cyprus, will give details of his findings Sunday.

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Harappan Excavation

The remains of a huge underwater city off the western coast of India may force historians and archaeologists to radically reconsider their view of ancient human history. It’s believed that the area was submerged when ice caps melted at the end of the last ice age, 9-10,000 years ago.

Marine scientists say archaeological remains discovered 120 feet underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of India could be over 9,000 years old. The vast city - which is five miles long and two miles wide - is believed to predate the oldest known remains in the subcontinent by more than 5,000 years.

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Ok they cannot all be Atlantis and to be clear given the depths in question and the locations that during the most recent ice age they sat on dry land. It is a natural conclusion (developing a model regarding water levels before, during and after such an ice age, as was most recently experienced and using a computer presents that clearly).

Furthermore….

Ancient Anomalies

What is being presented is the validity of a alternate history prior to the most recent ice age. A History of a society which florished, to an extent, it could have been compared to our culture well after 1492AD (but with certain apparent differences). This culture as a reuslt of that ice age was wiped out but information regading there accomplishments (world wide) survived to some extent.

My point is clear race, creed, culture is not the issue.

What is the issue is the rainbow and its meaning to all mankind.

Any thoughts?

Edited December 19, 2005 by Traid

[Essan]

However, there was supposedly a comet that struck the earth around 7640 BC, and another around 3150 BC (the time of Noah's Flood in the Old Testament). The tidal waves may have been massive and could have traveled at 400 mph.

And also failed to leave any trace, even though that produced by the Storegga Slide around 8,200 years ago did......

http://www.naturalsciences.be/museum/sciencenews/tsunami/

There is no physical evidence in support of either conjectured comet impact

[Yelekiah]

Yonaguni, Japan, Kihachiro Aratake, was looking for new places to take divers.He explored the southeast side of the island

I think I knoiw what you're talking about. There was a link I posted somewhere on this site earlier.

There is no physical evidence in support of either conjectured comet impact

Actually, scientific investigations show that the earth has been hit by comets and meteorites several times. They've (scientists) even done labaratory work to see how fast tidal waves could go, etc. There was data on a magnetic record of the planet that showed that there had to have been an impact rougly 5000 years ago. I'm guessing that's how they also found the older supposed impact, just based on magnetic records.

edit: source is the Bibliography of Uriel's Machine.

Edited December 19, 2005 by Yelekiah

[Master of Geeks]

Comets have hit earth and will hit again no doubt about it but no comet could cause a great flood it would have to be a tsunami 300 times the size of mt everst to do that

[Yelekiah]

You make a good point. I don't think there was a world wide flood, more likely local ones, in my opinion.

[Master of Geeks]

yeah their was a show on the discovery channel saying unless we found the ark this is just a myth and always will be