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[OverSword]

From article:

A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine cruised within 200 miles of the East Coast recently in the latest sign Russia is continuing to flex its naval and aerial power against the United States, defense officials said.

http://freebeacon.co...bs-skirt-coast/

[Bracket]

I know that relations with them is still thin, especially after the spy ring that was discovered in the U.S. a while back, but what's the point?

[Hilander]

Yes that is what I would like to know.  What is their point?  Trying to be intimidating.  You have to be afraid before something is intimidating.

[Mr. Smith]

This happens far more often that we hear about. There's one stationed in the GoM pretty much 24/7.

[MiskatonicGrad]

What you don't hear about is the two america attack subs that have been trailing the russian since they sailed out of port.

[sam12six]

We need to put a stop to this kind of nonsense.

I demand another Rambo movie!!

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

200 miles off the coast is intimidating? An "attack sub" is one designed for hunting other submarines or ships, incidentally, there may be some confusion with ballistic missile submarines or SSBNs.
According to my records, Sierra II is

Project 945A (Sierra II)
Nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine built Severodvinsk, 1987-93. Titanium hull, designed for high speed & deep diving. First pair displaced 8100t submerged, length 107m, second pair (945A, Sierra II) 9100t, 110m. PWR + single screw = 34k submerged.
Units:

945A Sierra II
K-336 Pskov 1993 Active, Northern Fleet B-336 from 1992
K-534 Nizhny Novogorod 1990 Active, Northern Fleet B-534 from 1992

Edited by 747400, 06 November 2012 - 09:37 AM.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

MiskatonicGrad, on 06 November 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

What you don't hear about is the two america attack subs that have been trailing the russian since they sailed out of port.

oh, that's always been quite routine procedure, of course.

[spud the mackem]

Is there a reason to worry if their cat runs thru' your alleyway ?. The Russians wont start anything these days they are too interested in selling heating gas and oil to everyone.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

spud the mackem, on 06 November 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

Is there a reason to worry if their cat runs thru' your alleyway ?. The Russians wont start anything these days they are too interested in selling heating gas and oil to everyone.

Indeed, just like China. Provoking Military action against your biggest customers would be very silly.

[supervike]

Crazy Ivan!

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Is Jack Ryan still around, just in case?

[Tutankhaten-pasheri]

After collapse of Soviet Union the TU95 air patrols over North Atlantic were stopped. US did not stop their patrols at all, then have cheek to complain when Russian patrols begin again a few years back. As for submarines, can US still not detect Oscar II class vessels.... Western rescue submarine that was allowed to dive on Kursk failed to detect the stricken vessel with it's instruments when it was only a few meters above Kursk. Besides, to complain of Russian submarine 200 miles of US coast is yet more cheek. What was USS Memphis doing only a few tens of kms off the Kola peninsula on 12th August 2000...

[The New Richard Nixon]

Atentutankh-pasheri, on 06 November 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

After collapse of Soviet Union the TU95 air patrols over North Atlantic were stopped. US did not stop their patrols at all, then have cheek to complain when Russian patrols begin again a few years back. As for submarines, can US still not detect Oscar II class vessels.... Western rescue submarine that was allowed to dive on Kursk failed to detect the stricken vessel with it's instruments when it was only a few meters above Kursk. Besides, to complain of Russian submarine 200 miles of US coast is yet more cheek. What was USS Memphis doing only a few tens of kms off the Kola peninsula on 12th August 2000...

Not long ago the Russians were sending "Bears" close to the United kingdom and had to be escorted, number of times has to be said. Also they flew to Venezuela not long ago.
A Russian warship entered Portsmouth Harbour in England last month I think, but it was there for a ceromony. And in 2008 I think a Chinese warship came too

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Atentutankh-pasheri, on 06 November 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

After collapse of Soviet Union the TU95 air patrols over North Atlantic were stopped. US did not stop their patrols at all, then have cheek to complain when Russian patrols begin again a few years back. As for submarines, can US still not detect Oscar II class vessels.... Western rescue submarine that was allowed to dive on Kursk failed to detect the stricken vessel with it's instruments when it was only a few meters above Kursk. Besides, to complain of Russian submarine 200 miles of US coast is yet more cheek. What was USS Memphis doing only a few tens of kms off the Kola peninsula on 12th August 2000...

It is rather typical of the U.S. attitude that the U.S. feels it is entitled to go where it likes and do what it likes, but if anyone tries to do the same to them then it's a Provocation and intimidation.

Still, i expect the Northern Fleet will be quite pleased that it needs just one of their submarines to Intimidate the great American Eagle.

Edited by 747400, 06 November 2012 - 03:43 PM.