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#4156    Abramelin

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 10:32 AM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 05 April 2011 - 10:12 AM, said:

I showed it to show how the culture of the hexagonal tower ATTACHED to a long house is also still in this area.

LOL.


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Posted 05 April 2011 - 10:41 AM

Read the next rant, please:


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After I found a Finnish generic name for a hillfort, a name close to the OLB Lindasburgt (in south-west Skenland/Schoonland), I focussed on the southern part of Sweden (Skåne Lån ) to find other locations with a 'Linda' in their name.


Here's something that's quite close to the "Lindaoorden':

Linderödsåsen
http://en.wikipedia....Linderödsåsen


Linderödsåsen is named after the parish name Linderödsåsen which in turn contains Linde (linden stocks) and Ryd (clearing). Åsen utgör i likhet med många av de andra skånska åsarna en geologisk gräns, den sk Tornqvistlinjen . The ridge is similar to many of the other ridges in Skåne a geological boundary, known as the Tornqvist line
http://sv.wikipedia....Linderödsåsen




Not satisfied, I played a bit with the letters, and tried "Lindenoorden".... but nothing.

OK, then "Lindenoord", and BINGO !!

This "Lindenoord" is a centuries old villa in the city of Wolvega, Friesland, and close to that now 'famous' river 'De Linden'(district of Weststellingwerf, Friesland).

But that's not all... this was also the villa where once Willem van Haren lived, the man who wrote a huge poem about the Friso and his adventures in India and elsewhere (Gevallen van Friso, koning der Gangariden en Prasiaten
), a poem discussed and analyzed by Joost Halbertsma.

Not only was Willem a writer/poet, he was also a grietman (OLB: grevetman), something between a mayor and judge.

Did this 'Lindenoord' suffer in any way? Yes, it was burned down, and much of the library was lost in 1776. After that is was rebuilt again.

http://nl.wikipedia....Zwier_van_Haren
http://www.stinsenin.../Lindenoord.htm

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolvega
http://en.wikipedia....eststellingwerf
http://nl.wikipedia....nten_in_Wolvega
http://nl.wikipedia....gwerf_Linde.png
http://www.stellingw...inde/linde1.JPG
http://www.toeristen.../3/WOLVEGA.html


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So, instead of focussing on southern Sweden, I just played with the letters of the Linda-locations in the OLB. It's my idea that the creators of the OLB simply looked for placenames in some atlas, places that started with "Lind- " , and added a distorted form of that placename to the story.



Another placename in the OLB is "Lindahem" . Now what does the OLB say about Lindahem?


"My father has written how the Lindaoorden and Lindgaarden were destroyed. Lindahem is still lost, the Lindaoorden partially, and the north Lindgaarden are still concealed by the salt sea."

I tried "Lindenheim", but all I found was something on a Dutch Wiccan site that told about a last witch-burning in 1798.
http://www.archive.s...n_nederland.htm

All I was able to find out is that this place is somewhere in Germany, but that's it.



Another try: "Lindheim".. nothing... "Lindenhem".. still nothing... maybe "Lindesheim"?? BINGO !!

The first hit, after I skipped past all the holiday sites, is this:

Lindesheim - ein verschwundenes Dorf bei Offstein
http://www.regionalg...lindesheim.html

In case you can't read German: "Lindesheim, a vanished village near Offstein".

Vanished vilage??? Remember, all the OLB tells us about Lindahem is: "Lindahem is still lost"....


Lindesheim wurde bereits im Mittelalter um 1350 verlassen und ging vollständig unter. Hierüber erzählt der Volksmund im Zusammenhang mit der Geschichte der Dirmsteiner Glocken.

Lindesheim was abandoned during the Middle Ages around 1350 and went under completely. It's mentioned in legends in the context with the history of the Dirmstein Bells.


http://de.wikipedia....wiki/Lindesheim
http://de.wikipedia....rche_(Dirmstein)#Geschichte_der_Dirmsteiner_Glocken (forget about this, no clues at all)


But when trying to Google some pics, I again found a "Lindenheim" with an -n- instead of an -s- :

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Nice little 'citadel/burgt', right? Well, the lost village itself was located near this hillfort/castle. That is IF Lindesheim = Lindenheim.

Now look at the surrounding area of this Lindenheim:

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Lindenheim is at the lower end of the image, but look at what it says a little up/left... "Lindengrunden". Now that means something like "area with Linde/lime trees" or... Linden-oorden. :)


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http://ruciane-nida....topic.php?t=211

Oh, and from this Polish site I understand it's near Friedrichshof, west of Berlin, god.


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http://www.ahrensbur...pler-mieten.de/

Well, it could be a misspelling or Lindesheim (the lost village) is in south Germany (near Offstein), and the Lindenheim (with the castle and with those 'Lindengrunden') is in east Germany. I am getting quite confused now..

Heh, and here one in Switserland: http://www.panoramio.../photo/21181985, but that's just a hotel... phhew.


And... here one in northern Germany, near Ahrensburg (north-east of Hamburg, Schleswig-Holstein)
http://maps.google.n...ved=0CCQQ8gEwAA


So, in short: there is a 'lost village' called Lindesheim in soouth Germany, there is a village with castle/hillfort near 'Lindenoorden' called Lindenheim, in east Germany, and there is one near Ahrensburg in Schleswig-Holstein, close to where we better go look for a 'Lindahem'. The Schleswig-Holstein Lindenheim is relatively 'close' to the 'Lindaoorden'(Linderödsåsen) in southern Sweden.


Yeah, I can imagine they couldn't find Lindahem again, LOL.


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Edited by Abramelin, 05 April 2011 - 11:01 AM.


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Posted 05 April 2011 - 04:04 PM

Linderdssen Ridge


The tumbling waters of Forsakar Falls plunge into a deep ravine. Dressed in mosses and surrounded by ancient deciduous woodlands the surrounding countryside is also the home of spectacular blackcock courting rituals (?? HUH??) and orchid meadows.  
Linderdssen Ridge runs from the heart of Skne to Hanbukten Bay. The geographical variations of the ridge make it appealing. Whether you hike or ride on horseback you can experience the call of the wild. Skneleden, the network of trails that criss-cross Skne, runs through a number of nature reserves.

Veer off to the right or left and youll walk paths that have only been trod by roe deer and red deer, the latter is the animal emblem of Skne.

If you take a detour along Hjortslingan Trail youll see some of the regions most attractive stately homes, their grounds are frequently open to the public.

Imposing Bronze Age burial-mounds and stone circles on Linderdss Ridge hint at bygone civilizations. There are beautiful meadows full of flowers to be seen on Bastslingan Trail, and what better way to see them than by bike.

http://www.turism.sk...?id=124&lang=en




Kungagraven i Kivik (G8)
This is a tomb from the Bronze Age. It is one of the finest relics of antiquity in Sweden. Measured to be 75 meters in diameter. Open May 15 - August 15.
For information and making reservations call +46414-700 21 or 0705-78 33 54.
Lat: N 55 40' 54.96" Long: E 14 13' 51.94"

Kung Borres gravhg (a grave mound)(E4)
This is a big grave mound from the Bronze Age situated on an open field close to Borrestad estate on the eastern hillside of Linderdssen.
Lat: N 55 52.555' Long: E 014 02.351'

http://www.linderods...ure_sights.html




Prehistoric times (12,000 BC to approximately 1000 AD)
After the ice sheet had begun to retreat from the southern parts of the biosphere reserve in
around 13,000 BC, plants and animals started to return, followed a few thousand years later
by the first wave of settlers, who lived as hunters, fishermen and gatherers. The earliest
archaeological remains discovered within the proposed biosphere reserve are to be found at
Fjlkinge Backe Hill and have been dated from about 11,000 BC. During the Neolithic Period
(4,200 BC to 1,800 BC) people began to cultivate the land. Farming was carried out as a
rotational system of cultivation and clearance on light soils; small areas were cleared or
burned at regular intervals to provide a few harvests, after which they were used primarily for
grazing. Over a period of time the central parts of the plain were gradually transformed into
more open grazing land. This rotational system of cultivation and fallow, which required large
areas of land, continued during the Bronze Age (1,800 BC to 500 BC), when cultivation also
spread to areas far beyond those farmed today. There are still traces of cultivation from the
late Bronze Age and early Iron Age on the high reaches of the hills and ridges, for example on
Linderdssen Ridge.

During the early Iron Age (500 BC to 400 AD) a change in the climate meant that it became
colder and wetter. Animals had to be kept indoors during the winter, and the need for winter
fodder increased. Naturally open lands were then used as hayfields, where the grass was cut
and dried to make hay for winter fodder.

http://www.vattenrik...svattenrike.pdf



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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:22 PM

This is concerning Lindesheim near Ahrensburg, Schleswig-Holstein. It's not necessarily this Lindesheim itself, but it could be...

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. Zuvor stand dort eine noch nicht datierte Fluchtburg, deren Ausmae durch die ueren Wallgrben im Forst Hagen im Sden der Stadt noch gut erkennbar sind. Mndliche berlieferungen sprechen von der Zeit der Wendenkriege im 10. Jahrhundert.

Previously, there was a still undated refuge-mound (the Dutch "Vliedberg", or terp) whose dimensions through the outer moats in Forst Hagen in the south of the city are still identifiable. Oral traditions speak of the wars at the turn of the 10th Century
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http://de.wikipedia....wiki/Ahrensburg





Als Fliehburg (auch Fluchtburg, Volksburg, Bauernburg oder Vryburg) wird eine burghnliche, meist von Wllen umgebene Verteidigungsanlage bezeichnet, die nicht dauerhaft bewohnt wurde, sondern einer lokal ansssigen Bevlkerung als zeitweiliger Rckzugsort bei Kriegsgefahr diente. In frheren Zeiten wurden derartige Anlagen als Hnenburgen bezeichnet, da ihre Entstehung Hnen zugeschrieben wurde.

By Flieburg/refuge mound (also Fluchtburg, People's castle, farmburg or Vryburg), was meant a castle-like, by ramparts surrounded defense system, which was not permanently inhabited, but used by the local resident population as a temporary retreat from the threat of war. In earlier times, such structures were described as Hnenburgen, since their formation was attributed to the Huns.


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliehburg

http://upload.wikime..._Slawenburg.jpg

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(this not the one near Ahrensburg, but it's a similar one).


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Posted 06 April 2011 - 09:13 AM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 05 April 2011 - 02:15 AM, said:

This part interested me as it mentions a clear date of 2200BC...

Apparently, their inhabitants fled the area as soon as
the impact of rising sea levels came to be felt.
Near Delfzijl Neolithic settlers built a megalithic
chambered tomb about 3350 BC. After 2200, BC
the site disappeared under several feet of clay
and peat.
Settlement remains are known from
Emden and Winsum (Groningen), but scattered
findings suggest that human activities extended
far into the present Wadden Sea. As much as 77
megalithic graves and 1,000 Bronze Age barrows
are located on Sylt, Fhr and Amrum alone,
whereas the adjoining mudflats and sandbanks
provided dozens of flint daggers and sickles. Barrows
and megalithic graves are also numerous in
the upland districts.

Puzzler,
Sorry to be a pain, but I cannot find the above quote. Can you please give us your link (again?)
Thanks


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Posted 06 April 2011 - 09:48 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 05 April 2011 - 07:53 AM, said:

The date -2200 BC- sure is interesting, but you would have hit jackpot if the sites were - apart from clay and peat - had been covered with a layer of sand.

The 2194 BC thing of the OLB was a disaster that included catastrophic floods. Such floods carry a lot of sand with them, which cover coastal areas.

The process desscribed in the pdf is about slowly rising sealevels and a subsequent deposit of clay and later on, peat.
Abe, this is the Jackpot, or the smoking gun.


Vele menschen werden in de aarde begraven, en velen die aan het vuur ontkomen waren, kwamen daarna in het water om. Niet alleen in het land van Finda spuwden de bergen vuur, maar ook in het Twiskland. Wouden brandden daardoor achterelkander weg, en toen de wind daar van daan kwam, waaiden onze landen vol asch. Stroomen werden verlegd en bij hunne monden kwamen nieuwe eilanden van zand en drijvend vee. Drie jaren was de aarde zoo lijdende, maar toen zij herstelde, kon men hare wouden zien. Vele landen waren verzonken, en andere uit de zee opgerezen en het Twiskland voor de helft ontwoud.

Many people were buried in the earth and many who had escaped the fire perished in the water. Not only in Findas Land did the mountains spew fire but also in Twiskland. Forests were burned one after the other, and when the wind came from there our land was covered with ash. Rivers changed their course, and at their mouths new islands were formed of sand and floating animals. Three years earth suffered, but when it improved the forests could be seen. Many countries were submerged, others had risen out of the sea and in Twiskland half of the forests were destroyed.


Where the OLB says "sand and animals", read "topsoil and organic material". This became peat & clay over 4000 years.
How could any hoaxer in the 19th century have known this and the date of 2200 BC / 2193 BC.

The fact that scientists at present ascribe the peat and clay to rising sea levels is merely their interpretation and, you will agree, they could in all probability be wrong.


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Posted 06 April 2011 - 11:31 AM

Thanks for all the very interesting posts of the last few days.
I took a brake of posting.

The article about the OLB-paper study will appear mid-April in a magazine for archivists.
I received a copy, but was asked to keep the information for myself until publication.

Sorry to keep you waiting.


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Posted 06 April 2011 - 11:56 AM

View PostOtharus, on 06 April 2011 - 11:31 AM, said:

Thanks for all the very interesting posts of the last few days.
I took a brake of posting.

The article about the OLB-paper study will appear mid-April in a magazine for archivists.
I received a copy, but was asked to keep the information for myself until publication.

Sorry to keep you waiting.

Boo! Hiss!

My rear end has taken up an odd shape since this thread started.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 02:00 PM

View PostAlewyn, on 06 April 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:

Abe, this is the Jackpot, or the smoking gun.


Vele menschen werden in de aarde begraven, en velen die aan het vuur ontkomen waren, kwamen daarna in het water om. Niet alleen in het land van Finda spuwden de bergen vuur, maar ook in het Twiskland. Wouden brandden daardoor achterelkander weg, en toen de wind daar van daan kwam, waaiden onze landen vol asch. Stroomen werden verlegd en bij hunne monden kwamen nieuwe eilanden van zand en drijvend vee. Drie jaren was de aarde zoo lijdende, maar toen zij herstelde, kon men hare wouden zien. Vele landen waren verzonken, en andere uit de zee opgerezen en het Twiskland voor de helft ontwoud.

Many people were buried in the earth and many who had escaped the fire perished in the water. Not only in Finda’s Land did the mountains spew fire but also in Twiskland. Forests were burned one after the other, and when the wind came from there our land was covered with ash. Rivers changed their course, and at their mouths new islands were formed of sand and floating animals. Three years earth suffered, but when it improved the forests could be seen. Many countries were submerged, others had risen out of the sea and in Twiskland half of the forests were destroyed.


Where the OLB says "sand and animals", read "topsoil and organic material". This became peat & clay over 4000 years.
How could any hoaxer in the 19th century have known this and the date of 2200 BC / 2193 BC.

The fact that scientists at present ascribe the peat and clay to rising sea levels is merely their interpretation and, you will agree, they could in all probability be wrong.

Just a quick reply:

The tsunami caused by the Storegga Slide, the up to 3-days-long tsunami that finished off Doggerland around 6145 BC, left traces (sand, shells and ao on) in the countries surrounding the present North Sea. Clear traces.

I tell you Alewyn, I have read so many scientific pdf's about Doggerland and connected stuff, that my eyes started to water. And very often I was looking for something more recent than 6145 BC, but never have I found anything hugely catastrophic of past that date.

The Storegga Slide was caused when a submarine layer of sediment the size of Iceland (or Ireland), west of Norway, became unstable and started to move. Now I imagine that an event as described in your book - a comet impact in the south Indian Ocean around 2200 BC, an impact that may even have tilted the earth's axis -  would have had an effect on geological strata similar or greater than the efect of the Storegga Slide.

And most important, we would have heard about it. The Storegga Slide effected the North Sea area only, but the event in your book had an effect on the whole planet.

And even if it wasn't a comet impact, even if the earth's axis did not tilt, even then - if the OLB is true - should we find traces of all the OLB disasters all over the world, and around 2200 BC.

Not just floods or draughts, but burnt forests, volcanic eruptions, rivers changing direction, lands submerged and upheaveled (sp?), mountains crumbling... and most important: all that around 2200 BC.... worldwide.


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EDIT:

Imagine: most of the forests of Europe burnt to a cinder. You'd imagine they'd found a carbon layer, dating to 2200 BC, all over Europe (and maybe Russia)??

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Edited by Abramelin, 06 April 2011 - 02:06 PM.


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Posted 07 April 2011 - 01:09 AM

View PostAlewyn, on 06 April 2011 - 09:13 AM, said:

Puzzler,
Sorry to be a pain, but I cannot find the above quote. Can you please give us your link (again?)
Thanks
I'm sorry Alewyn, it seems I didn't add it, I dont know why I didn't, I think I just forgot..

Here it is'- Page 19 that part about 2200BC

http://www.waddensea...eport/chap2.pdf

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 01:16 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 06 April 2011 - 02:00 PM, said:



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EDIT:

Imagine: most of the forests of Europe burnt to a cinder. You'd imagine they'd found a carbon layer, dating to 2200 BC, all over Europe (and maybe Russia)??

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I'm working on finding it don't worry...

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Cornelia Jager
Astrophysikalisches Institut, Friedrich-Schiller-Universitat Jena, Jena, Germany
Received 31 May 2002; revised 24 September 2002; accepted 24 September 2002; published 10 December 2002.
[1] A common paradigm is that chernozem soils developed in the Holocene under
grassland steppes, with their formation largely determined by three factors, parent
material, climate and faunal mixing. For European chernozems, however, pollen records
show that steppes were rare. Here, using high-resolution transmission electron
microscopy, electron energy loss spectroscopy, micro Raman spectroscopy and
radiocarbon dating, we characterized the nanomorphology and chemical structure of soil
organic carbon (SOC) from central European chernozems. We identified submicron
remnants of burned biomass (1545 percent of SOC), coexisting as amorphous charblack
carbon (BC) derived from pyrolized cellulose or soot-BC. The BC was several
millenia in age (11605040 carbon-14 years) and up to 3990 radiocarbon years older than
bulk SOC, indicating significant residence times for BC in soils. These results challenge
common paradigms on chernozem formation and add fire as an important novel factor. It
is also clear that the role of fire in soil formation has been underestimated outside classical
fire prone biomes. Furthermore, our results demonstrate the importance of quantifying
BC in soils because of its large contribution, longevity and potential role in the global
biogeochemical carbon cycle. INDEX TERMS: 1055 Geochemistry: Organic geochemistry; 1615
Global Change: Biogeochemical processes (4805); 4805 Oceanography: Biological and Chemical:
Biogeochemical cycles (1615); KEYWORDS: black carbon, soil organic matter, high resolution transmission
electron spectroscopy, Raman

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http://www.geo.uzh.c...002GB001939.pdf

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 01:37 AM

Abe - Concerning Stavia, Lindahem and Luidgarda. I agree with Alewyn that Stavia is Staveren. I have spent all night studying maps of Friesland, the IJsselmeer, Rhine and Denmark and the German Bight as well as Alewyn's map of Flyland and trying to make sense of some things.

Now if we consider that:

These are the Grevetmen under whose direction this book is composed:—

Apol, Adela’s husband; three times a sea-king; Grevetman of Ostflyland and Lindaoorden. The towns Liudgarda, Lindahem, and Stavia are under his care.

(List of the rest follows)

and consider that Stavia is Staveren, why would Luidgarda and Lindahem be anywhere other than right near Staveren??

Lindahem sounds to me like it may have just disappeared into the sea, exactly what they said, it was in East Flyland or even out into the Wadden Sea. Since Staveren is on the North of this old Flyland, the (IJsselmeer according to Alewyn) I'd assume myself the other two towns would also be nearby. Not off somewhere else in Germany or Switzerland.

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 02:10 AM

Our results unequivocally demonstrate the presence
of BC from biomass burning in European soils, although we
can only speculate on whether the BC was formed through
natural or anthropogenic burning. These data challenge the
common paradigm that chernozems are zonal soils with
climate, parent material and bioturbation dominating soil
formation, and introduce fire as a novel, important factor in
the formation of these soils.


http://www.geo.uzh.c...01939.pdfSame pdf as one given in Post #4165

What this says it that it IS A POSSIBILITY THAT FIRE DID GO THROUGH EUROPE & GERMANY from a time period around the Neolithic and/or onwards.

If you read it all you'll see it says maybe 7 fire events, then after analysis this part is specifically mentioned: It is possible that the quantities of BC-SOC
measured in these soils were produced by a small number of
fire events, given aboveground biomass carbon density.

The idea is that the BC in the soil could have been caused by slash and burn human methods, but this would possibly show a larger number of fires. It's possible it's a combination of both slash and burn and natural burning of vegetation by fires.


Nothing concrete but at least we now know that carbon DOES show layers of burning throughout Europe in the time period we are talking about.

Also, it has to understood this sort of information isn't just falling out of everyone's pockets, their is no clear answers to find for these questions at present.

Edited by The Puzzler, 07 April 2011 - 02:12 AM.

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 05:32 AM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 07 April 2011 - 02:10 AM, said:

Our results unequivocally demonstrate the presence
of BC from biomass burning in European soils, although we
can only speculate on whether the BC was formed through
natural or anthropogenic burning. These data challenge the
common paradigm that chernozems are zonal soils with
climate, parent material and bioturbation dominating soil
formation, and introduce fire as a novel, important factor in
the formation of these soils.


http://www.geo.uzh.c...002GB001939.pdf  Same pdf as one given in Post #4165

What this says it that it IS A POSSIBILITY THAT FIRE DID GO THROUGH EUROPE & GERMANY from a time period around the Neolithic and/or onwards.

If you read it all you'll see it says maybe 7 fire events, then after analysis this part is specifically mentioned: It is possible that the quantities of BC-SOC
measured in these soils were produced by a small number of
fire events, given aboveground biomass carbon density.

The idea is that the BC in the soil could have been caused by slash and burn human methods, but this would possibly show a larger number of fires. It's possible it's a combination of both slash and burn and natural burning of vegetation by fires.


Nothing concrete but at least we now know that carbon DOES show layers of burning throughout Europe in the time period we are talking about.

Also, it has to understood this sort of information isn't just falling out of everyone's pockets, their is no clear answers to find for these questions at present.

Yes Puzz and this goes hand in hand with what we know about the Aboriginals of Australia as well as other "Primitive cultures" and the control they placed on their environment with the use of fire.

I have said it before but take away the convenience of Electricity, the steam and  internal combustion engines and we are right back to the Stone Age in reality.

It amazes me how conceited and superior we all think we are when with the removal of the above would bring most of society and civilization to a stand still today.


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Posted 07 April 2011 - 05:52 AM

View PostFlashbangwollap, on 07 April 2011 - 05:32 AM, said:

Yes Puzz and this goes hand in hand with what we know about the Aboriginals of Australia as well as other "Primitive cultures" and the control they placed on their environment with the use of fire.

I have said it before but take away the convenience of Electricity, the steam and  internal combustion engines and we are right back to the Stone Age in reality.

It amazes me how conceited and superior we all think we are when with the removal of the above would bring most of society and civilization to a stand still today.
Yes, from the article..
In black Australian
grassland soils, under aboriginal fire management for thousands
of years, up to 30% of the soil organic carbon (SOC)
was present as BC, whereas adjacent forested soils that were
not subjected to regular aboriginal burning were gray and
contained little BC


I know, I had a blackout yesterday and was a mess, I needed the internet mostly, and the fridge, it went out at 8am, by 5pm we had the generator up and running...lol sad really.

It happened before my kids went to school, so they knew, there was a massive tree fell on the power lines from strong wind up the road near the bus-stop, when the kids finished school the workmen were still there,

Y'know, as my kids got off the bus, 2 Aboriginal girls who live near me said: "I wish we had no power!", the other girl went "Yeah, I wish we had no power too".... in the way that if we didn't have the power we wouldn't be bothered by the black-out. How ironic.

I found it really profound lol, so it's funny you should mention this topic in your post...

Edited by The Puzzler, 07 April 2011 - 05:58 AM.

In an mmm bop it's gone...