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#16    orangepeaceful79

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:29 PM

View Postthe L, on 17 October 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Maybe they knew how to made baloon or glider?

Except that no archaeological evidence has ever been found to support any claim that they knew how to make balloons or gliders.


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Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:41 PM

View Postorangepeaceful79, on 17 October 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Except that no archaeological evidence has ever been found to support any claim that they knew how to make balloons or gliders.
Even if they could fly...how would it help them?
They could observe the area, but how would they transfer that to locating the diagram on the ground?
The would need to take photos at a minimum, and even that wouldn't help unless there were reference points on the ground to correlate.  Many of these areas are barren, rocky wastelands without so much as a tree for a reference point.
I think they just drew them as they are using some method we haven't thought of.  There's a lot can be done by just driving a stake into the ground and attaching a length of rope to it for example.  Or pacing out distance.  Or measuring off longer distances with lengths of rope.  Crop circles are an example of these methods.

Edited by synchronomy, 17 October 2012 - 05:41 PM.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 06:16 PM

View Postthe L, on 17 October 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Or those in Nasca actually they could see from air.

The third paragraph in the article says the elk, or deer, could be viewed from a nearby ridge. They could have sent instructions back to the workers on the ground. No big mystery here.


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Posted 17 October 2012 - 07:59 PM

If you're partial to a wee hallucinogenic drug now and again, you don't need wings, gliders or balloons to fly.


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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:19 AM

View Postorangepeaceful79, on 17 October 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Except that no archaeological evidence has ever been found to support any claim that they knew how to make balloons or gliders.

But are you aware that todays theory of Nasca lines are based on pure speculation?
So if they could speculate so I can too. And many others. There is no explaination for Nasca lines whatsoever.
We asumed that Nascars made it but thats it.

View PostEldorado, on 17 October 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

If you're partial to a wee hallucinogenic drug now and again, you don't need wings, gliders or balloons to fly.

Or if you can astral travel. :tu:

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 06:24 AM

I recently also read a little on the Map stones found in russia,God's Blueprints they were termed.Maybe these pictures drawn on the Earth can be God's diagrams before creating life. :yes:


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 08:01 AM

View PostHarsh86_Patel, on 20 October 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:

I recently also read a little on the Map stones found in russia,God's Blueprints they were termed.Maybe these pictures drawn on the Earth can be God's diagrams before creating life. :yes:

God should go back to night-school then.  His Engineering Drawing skills are crap.  (no offence, God)


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 08:24 AM

View PostEldorado, on 20 October 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

God should go back to night-school then.  His Engineering Drawing skills are crap.  (no offence, God)
Not that bad actually,children draw like this and we still appreciate their art.


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 09:18 AM

View PostHarsh86_Patel, on 20 October 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Not that bad actually,children draw like this and we still appreciate their art.

Aye... but God ain't a child, allegedly.  Maybe it was his "abstract" period?  (only kiddin, Harsh)


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 02:39 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 17 October 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Even if they could fly...how would it help them?
They could observe the area, but how would they transfer that to locating the diagram on the ground?
The would need to take photos at a minimum, and even that wouldn't help unless there were reference points on the ground to correlate.  Many of these areas are barren, rocky wastelands without so much as a tree for a reference point.
I think they just drew them as they are using some method we haven't thought of.  There's a lot can be done by just driving a stake into the ground and attaching a length of rope to it for example.  Or pacing out distance.  Or measuring off longer distances with lengths of rope.  Crop circles are an example of these methods.

I agree.  They made these from the ground, with no real ability to see the big picture, at least as we are able to from the air.  They didn't need to fly to make the drawings.  With very simple math one can work out things like proportions and scale something up - from there it would jsut be a matter of  using whatever they had as a unit of measurement.

My comment was directed mostly at wild speculation that they could see the whole thing from the air when there is no evidence that they had any ability to fly.  And a thinly veiled jab (in my post previous to the one you quoted) at those who theorize that the Nazca lines had something to do with signalling alien life.  I can be kind of an ass sometimes.  Too late to go back and remove the post now.


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 02:59 PM

View Postorangepeaceful79, on 20 October 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

I agree.  They made these from the ground, with no real ability to see the big picture, at least as we are able to from the air.  They didn't need to fly to make the drawings.  With very simple math one can work out things like proportions and scale something up - from there it would jsut be a matter of  using whatever they had as a unit of measurement.

My comment was directed mostly at wild speculation that they could see the whole thing from the air when there is no evidence that they had any ability to fly.  And a thinly veiled jab (in my post previous to the one you quoted) at those who theorize that the Nazca lines had something to do with signalling alien life.  I can be kind of an ass sometimes.  Too late to go back and remove the post now.
I reread your post and can see now it was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
All too often the "Ancient Aliens" conclusion is put forth.  I view it as a cop-out to detemine the real methods and motivation for such structures being constructed.
These theories always imply that our ancestors we a bunch of primates without culture or intelligence beyond the hunter-gatherer idea.

Edited by synchronomy, 20 October 2012 - 02:59 PM.

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 02:59 PM

Maybe the figure just represents the location for good hunting grounds for that particular animal, as it could once be seen from a distant ridge?
Or a veneration to their "gods" to give luck in hunting.


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 03:13 PM

View Postpallidin, on 20 October 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Maybe the figure just represents the location for good hunting grounds for that particular animal, as it could once be seen from a distant ridge?
Or a veneration to their "gods" to give luck in hunting.

Seems more likely to me than some of the more "paranormal" explanations for large scale drawings like this.  Good thinking.


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 03:19 PM

View PostEldorado, on 14 October 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

It was after they "discovered" vodka.

By the way it looks it was done AFTER vodka was discovered


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 04:00 PM

View Postthe L, on 19 October 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

But are you aware that todays theory of Nasca lines are based on pure speculation?
So if they could speculate so I can too. And many others. There is no explaination for Nasca lines whatsoever.
We asumed that Nascars made it but thats it.


There's speculation and speculation....

You might want to read this old post of mine, or the pdf I linked to in that post:

http://www.unexplain...5





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