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MichaelW, on 14 November 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

You really don't have a clue, do you?

About?

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The New Richard Nixon, on 14 November 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Israel is funded by other countries too not just USA. Israel has been making weapons on thier own, like Iran has

Making their own weapons with our money not theirs. Doubtful other countries donate as much as we do or that Israel can have a military as big as it does without our money. Regardless of who else gives it is nothing compared to how much we give but we won't forever.

[The New Richard Nixon]

Chasingtherabbit, on 15 November 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Making their own weapons with our money not theirs. Doubtful other countries donate as much as we do or that Israel can have a military as big as it does without our money. Regardless of who else gives it is nothing compared to how much we give but we won't forever.

No they get thier own money by selling technology products. You would be suprised how much France gives.

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The New Richard Nixon, on 15 November 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

No they get thier own money by selling technology products. You would be suprised how much France gives.

We give over 3 billion a year. That needs to stop.

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Chasingtherabbit, on 15 November 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

We give over 3 billion a year. That needs to stop.

Indeed, considering that 99% of Israel's oil and gas is imported (largely from Egypt and Russia IIRC).  The US needs to stop funding this State terrorism. We need to demand a change in Israel's policies and discriminate laws. Demand the apartheid wall be torn down. The settlements dismantled and removed. The checkpoints exited. Occupier settler only roads and highways opened to the occupied Palestinians.

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Ambush Bug, on 15 November 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

Indeed, considering that 99% of Israel's oil and gas is imported (largely from Egypt and Russia IIRC).  The US needs to stop funding this State terrorism. We need to demand a change in Israel's policies and discriminate laws. Demand the apartheid wall be torn down. The settlements dismantled and removed. The checkpoints exited. Occupier settler only roads and highways opened to the occupied Palestinians.

will never happen, it will make thing alot worse

[MichaelW]

Chasingtherabbit, on 15 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

About?

Israel's dependence on American aid. It's big enough and ugly enough to survive on its own and it has done so before.

Chasingtherabbit, on 15 November 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Making their own weapons with our money not theirs. Doubtful other countries donate as much as we do or that Israel can have a military as big as it does without our money. Regardless of who else gives it is nothing compared to how much we give but we won't forever.

They make their weapons with their own money. Seriously, when will you people actually learn something?

[B Jenkins]

The New Richard Nixon, on 15 November 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

will never happen, it will make thing alot worse

Not if the US grows a spine and stands up to Israel for once and also quites abusing its UN Security Council veto privilages for the benefit of Israel.

[MichaelW]

Ambush Bug, on 17 November 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

Not if the US grows a spine and stands up to Israel for once and also quites abusing its UN Security Council veto privilages for the benefit of Israel.

Why should the US give up its veto powers with Israel if Russia and China don't with regards to Syria and Iran? The only reason the UN was rendered impotent in Syria was because of Russia and China pretending that thousands of dead civilians was an unfortunate accident.

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MichaelW, on 17 November 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Why should the US give up its veto powers with Israel if Russia and China don't with regards to Syria and Iran? The only reason the UN was rendered impotent in Syria was because of Russia and China pretending that thousands of dead civilians was an unfortunate accident.

Calling the kettle black again. Why shouldnt the US or are you implying the US isnt better than Russia and China? Or do two wrongs make a right, eh?

[MichaelW]

Ambush Bug, on 17 November 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

Calling the kettle black again. Why shouldnt the US or are you implying the US isnt better than Russia and China? Or do two wrongs make a right, eh?

Not really. Just calling for fairness and balance.

[B Jenkins]

MichaelW, on 17 November 2012 - 07:15 AM, said:

Not really. Just calling for fairness and balance.

No that is calling for favoritism something Russia, China, and the US are all guilty of.

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I'm still having trouble figuring out what constitutes "minor shelling".  The implication seems to be that if the shelling isn't accurate enough to cause death then it doesn't count.  It doesn't take much imagination to picture what life would be like if you had to stay 30 seconds away from a bunker at all times.  Israel won't attack Syria in any serious way unless forced to by circumstances.  Let's all hope it doesn't come to that.

[MichaelW]

Ambush Bug, on 17 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

No that is calling for favoritism something Russia, China, and the US are all guilty of.

No. But whatever. It's not like you know what you're talking about anyway.

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MichaelW, on 18 November 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

No. But whatever. It's not like you know what you're talking about anyway.

Haha, I respect people's intelligence more than that knowing they form their own opinions and thoughts. And due to the internet, information is readily available at the click of a key especially the stories that nightly news or their local newspapers strongly discourage.