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Archimedes, on 03 January 2013 - 10:14 PM, said:

Why would cherry picking the positive in 2013 make any more sense than waiting until 2031 or doing it back in 1994 and use that as evidence that some "new age" began then or will begin in the future?

It spreads positivity now, not in 2031 or 1994. It's not a dirty thing.

[Emma_Acid]

SpiritWriter, on 10 January 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

The new age has begun and has been underway for a while. I dont think the solstice was the exact marker though it may have been key inmarking the event.. with every change there is the adjustment period and these dont tend to be pretty. I think we will all be dead before the real 'change' is evident.. but slowly and surely it may.. its good to pay attention to the small signs and be involved in them.. peace and harmony? 100% available for us, it all depends on how we think, act and believe...

I like what another poster said, think globally, start locally. We are the change...

So you can't be proven wrong. Convenient.

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Archimedes, on 10 January 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

As long as humans are humans, war will be a fact of life.

That's not cynical or pessimistic or skeptical.  That's the facts.  Expecting homo sapiens to be a species without aggression and war is like expecting lions to stop hunting antelopes and buffalo and start eating potatoes.  It is simply the nature of the beast.  It is the way things are.

No. We have evolved as a species to move past most of the things we used to consider 'a fact of life'. We simply don't need to anymore, and have found far better ways to live. So those parts will eventually die out, in the natural process as we continue to evolve (not in a physical, but mental/emotional way, seeing as how we are needing less and less to evolve physically to survive in this world). This is a brand new thing in the grand timeline of our existence. Killing each other to survive just isn't needed anymore. Now we do it because we have taught each other that the only way to solve our problems between nations is to kill each other in shows of force. We have since started to try more peaceful ways to work out our differences, but there is still a strong clinging to the old mentality of fighting being the only way to end an issue. There are many reasons for this mentality, but all can be surpassed. I believe your view is extremely pessimistic and dooming, for the reasons above and more.

All that aside, my new age began in late January of last year (2012). I accept that some will read what I experienced and think I'm crazy. That doesn't matter (well, much); it was a personal experience that only truly matters to me. I can only share it to try to give a glimpse of how it made me feel.

I had a dream; all I remember of it was seeing through the eyes of something in outer space, looking at the Earth. I woke up, being the most moved I have ever been in my life, and I had no idea why. I was bawling in joy, with the greatest feeling of peace. Some time after, I sat up in my room, and was shocked. Everything in my room looked the same (everything in its normal place), but it all had powerful personal relevance to me (every item). As I looked at it all and thought about how odd this was, I started to have great thoughts about it that took me by surprise. These were clear, smart, often witty responses to some of the thoughts and questions I was asking to myself. As I thought how I came up with these thoughts, that inner voice said 'that was us', or something similar. Conversing began, and as they conversed with me, they also conversed with each other. They all were so friendly to me and each other, and the feeling of love between us all was so strong. We were all seeming to share a single mind in a way, and were serving to help each other. We were all one; in thought, feeling, and love.

There was a lot more that I won't go into, but I still think about that night, and am awestruck, as that was really the night my new age began. From that moment on, I became a new person inside. A lot of my hate and fear instantly dissipated. And while some powerful remnants still remain, I now am learning how to assess the feelings, and process them, allowing me to figure them out and attempt to fix them. This is also what I have learned to do in just about every facet of my me. This is a 180 from the me I used to be, which would push things down, ignore them, and sit in hate and self pity. I have learned to love again, and am finding peace and joy in what I once saw nothing. I am seeing many things around me in a new light, feeling and thinking about things in this same new light.

So the above is my personal 'new age'. And that's where it all begins and ends, don't you think?

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Emma_Acid, on 12 January 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

So you can't be proven wrong. Convenient.

She was just giving her personal views and beliefs, not attempting to compete in any contest where proof is necessary.

[Lilly]

When I was young people were proclaiming that the "new age" was upon us. Now it's happening again. Funny thing though, basic human nature doesn't appear to changed one bit. Actually in many ways things appear (to me anyway) to be getting worse.

[AsteroidX]

Theres so much talent and innovation being stifled under oppression.

[Professor T]

Lilly, on 12 January 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

When I was young people were proclaiming that the "new age" was upon us. Now it's happening again. Funny thing though, basic human nature doesn't appear to changed one bit. Actually in many ways things appear (to me anyway) to be getting worse.

A generational thing perhaps?
I gew up in the groovy 70's and kind of feel the same way..
Each new generation proclaims it a new age, but the only thing that changes is a downward spiral of society passion for life and an upward trend in plastic ego's.

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Well, every day can be a new age, if you want it to be.

[orangepeaceful79]

Hasina, on 04 January 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Everything is human created? Ya know, except everything that's not.

Sorry to say IBY, it just sounds like a lot of vague nonsense that sounds nice but doesn't have any substance.

And by 'ills' I mean genetic disorders and diseases. Things you catch or have written into the very fabric of your DNA, like MS or Huntington's.

Exactly.  Its just wishy-washy New Age Blah blah blah.  Empower yourself!  Love, Peace, Happiness!  Embrace everything and seek peace...mumble mumble mumble.  All laudable outcomes, but no clear blueprint for action.   Just thought-projects and internet glad-handing.

I, though I wish I weren't, am of the opposite mindset of the OP.  The New Age (if there is one) is heading in the other direction.  WE are in decline as a species.  I'm a teacher and I see the evidence of it everyday in my students.  We are a society (at least here in the US) that is increasingly materialistic, and decreasingly willing to reach out and help each other and larger causes.  All my students talk about are video games and electronic devices....alternate realities that they steep themselves in at every possible opportunity.

Kids are different now...they learn differently, they expect to be entertained at every juncture.  They are a symptom of a society that is largely concerned with shallow pursuits.  I've been in education now for 13 years and its been getting worse.  These kids I see everyday are the canary in the mineshaft.  A quiet alarm nobody is paying much attention to.  My colleagues and I feel as though we are fighting an uphill struggle.

No magical New Age awakening is going to reverse this.  I wish I were wrong but I don't see an evidence to the contrary.

[orangepeaceful79]

AsteroidX, on 12 January 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

Theres so much talent and innovation being stifled under oppression.

Can you expand on this?  What are some examples of this happening?

[Hasina]

orangepeaceful79, on 12 January 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

Exactly.  Its just wishy-washy New Age Blah blah blah.  Empower yourself!  Love, Peace, Happiness!  Embrace everything and seek peace...mumble mumble mumble.  All laudable outcomes, but no clear blueprint for action.   Just thought-projects and internet glad-handing.

I, though I wish I weren't, am of the opposite mindset of the OP.  The New Age (if there is one) is heading in the other direction.  WE are in decline as a species.  I'm a teacher and I see the evidence of it everyday in my students.  We are a society (at least here in the US) that is increasingly materialistic, and decreasingly willing to reach out and help each other and larger causes.  All my students talk about are video games and electronic devices....alternate realities that they steep themselves in at every possible opportunity.

Kids are different now...they learn differently, they expect to be entertained at every juncture.  They are a symptom of a society that is largely concerned with shallow pursuits.  I've been in education now for 13 years and its been getting worse.  These kids I see everyday are the canary in the mineshaft.  A quiet alarm nobody is paying much attention to.  My colleagues and I feel as though we are fighting an uphill struggle.

No magical New Age awakening is going to reverse this.  I wish I were wrong but I don't see an evidence to the contrary.

I'm in the middle, we'll get better slowly and individually, learning a bit as a group and then improving just slightly. There's proof of that in our general soceity with how we've improved health and communication. It goes back to us as individuals to improve things. Not so esoteric date, not cause some 'new age' started.

Kids will always be kids, it's the teens and the adults they grow into that you want to focus them on. They can be entertained but focused on their futures, that is one o the bad things with social networking. It's compounded everyone to care about what everyone is doing RIGHT NOW or JUST DID, there's no planning, no thinking.

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orangepeaceful79, on 12 January 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

Exactly.  Its just wishy-washy New Age Blah blah blah.  Empower yourself!  Love, Peace, Happiness!  Embrace everything and seek peace...mumble mumble mumble.  All laudable outcomes, but no clear blueprint for action.   Just thought-projects and internet glad-handing.

There is no blueprint for action necessary. It's about how you see what is already here. If you think people changing their perception and minds to seek out love, peace, and happiness is 'wishy washy blah blah' mumbling, I feel sorry for your opinion, but don't make fun of people who have done so, or are attempting to. You're asking dreamers to change the world. They're changing their mind. But you don't understand that the two are the same. If you think that's mumbo jumbo I'm spouting, I don't know what to tell you.

[orangepeaceful79]

_Only, on 12 January 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

There is no blueprint for action necessary. It's about how you see what is already here. If you think people changing their perception and minds to seek out love, peace, and happiness is 'wishy washy blah blah' mumbling, I feel sorry for your opinion, but don't make fun of people who have done so, or are attempting to. You're asking dreamers to change the world. They're changing their mind. But you don't understand that the two are the same. If you think that's mumbo jumbo I'm spouting, I don't know what to tell you.

I think that changing one's mind is great.  Its certainly the first step.  Here's the kicker though - the reality on the ground isn't changing.  Which leads me to believe that changing one's mind and writing about it on the internet and changing one's mind and actually going out and doing something to try and make the world a better place are two VASTLY different things.  A plan of action is needed, even if it is something simple for the individual.  I just don't see people DOING.  I hear people talking, I can read about all this stuff, but where's the beef - so to speak?  _Only if you are someone who is out there, working to make the world a better place, then I applaud you and I apologize for lumping you in with the other lazy New Age warm and fuzzy internet do-nothings.

I have many friends who spend their days posting all manner of New Age stuff on the internet, on their facebook pages....so many important memes!  But they do NOTHING.  Even the ones with jobs don't actually put any of their warm fuzzies into action.   So forgive me if I'm jaded.  I'm just tired of hearing talk and reading glurge and never seeing any change.

[and then]

Those who push the "New Age" dogma are simply repeating the oldest lie of all: you can be as gods.  I actually believe a new age of peace IS coming but mankind isn't the author of it.

[joc]

and then, on 13 January 2013 - 02:02 AM, said:

Those who push the "New Age" dogma are simply repeating the oldest lie of all: you can be as gods.  I actually believe a new age of peace IS coming but mankind isn't the author of it.

There is a New Age coming for sure...but it has no resemblance to Peace whatsoever...in fact...it is a New Age of Chaos.  The New Age of Darkness...rather  The New Dark Age.  We all think technology is here forever...it is a flash in the pan...and the flash that ends it is nuclear...and it is coming.  Watch for it.   The first Mushroom Cloud will be something to talk about....the following ones...no one will want to talk about it anymore.  No more lights...no more electricity...no more engines...no more jets, or cars, or music.  The New Dark Age  coming to a city near you; brought to you by the PTB.