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#16    moonshadow60

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:09 PM

Oh, my.  Cell phones, Smart Meters and now Wi-Fi.  Seems nothing is safe anymore, unless it really is only paranoia.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:16 PM

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we are swimming in a sea of frequency waves ... everywhere surrounding everyone

It sometimes freaks me out a bit to know that someone's phone conversation or streamed movie might've just flown through me.


Do people really sleep with their phones in bed with them? Under their pillow or something? Good grief.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:20 PM

from my experiences in discussing such matter s throughout the years, one thing is apparent : none of these things on its own can be proven to be 'true'
BUt as we look at the way things are going in the world we not only know but we see things that are not so quite right ... cancer on the upswing even when people goes on proper diets and healthy living ... young physically healthy people dropping left and right from 'heart' related problems ... mental illnesses previously unheard of ...

We know something is going off the bend somewhere ... but to put the finger on something and state that 'that' is the reason will not get anyone anywhere ... there will never be such evidences or even the possibility of such.
It's a logic trap ... like the statistics they claim from smoking :

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Its the marketing spin on damage control ... and consumer buying trends .... they gotta keep the numbers up ...

On the whole everything in the world contributes to the problem ... all the pollution ... all the chemicals ... all the unnatural wave frequencies ... they add up.
Some add up more in some than others.... none the less ... add up they do ....

But the market players don't want you to dwell on that ... it is after all a 'better' world that is promised to you at the end of it all ....


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:35 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 28 May 2013 - 08:01 AM, said:

we are swimming in a sea of frequency waves ... everywhere surrounding everyone ... more so in the big and high density population areas ...
it doesn;t need to be near a tiny small 'router' ... all these waves varies in density during hours and seasons ...

a 'proper' study on the effects of these waves near the highest intensity of transmission is doomed to fail based on the pre determined factors of what constitutes 'proper' study methods ... it is impossible to find equal numbers and effects from everywhere or corner of the world...


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View Postthird_eye, on 28 May 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

from my experiences in discussing such matter s throughout the years, one thing is apparent : none of these things on its own can be proven to be 'true'
BUt as we look at the way things are going in the world we not only know but we see things that are not so quite right ... cancer on the upswing even when people goes on proper diets and healthy living ... young physically healthy people dropping left and right from 'heart' related problems ... mental illnesses previously unheard of ...

We know something is going off the bend somewhere ... but to put the finger on something and state that 'that' is the reason will not get anyone anywhere ... there will never be such evidences or even the possibility of such.
It's a logic trap ... like the statistics they claim from smoking :

Posted Image

Its the marketing spin on damage control ... and consumer buying trends .... they gotta keep the numbers up ...

On the whole everything in the world contributes to the problem ... all the pollution ... all the chemicals ... all the unnatural wave frequencies ... they add up.
Some add up more in some than others.... none the less ... add up they do ....

But the market players don't want you to dwell on that ... it is after all a 'better' world that is promised to you at the end of it all ....


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Yet somehow life expectancy has risen in the developed world for decades.

Edited by Merc14, 28 May 2013 - 02:37 PM.

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:41 PM

View PostMerc14, on 28 May 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

An aluminum foil suit and hat will salve your worries.  http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/1581603762

Sure Merc .. when I started out there were eight of us ... me and friends ... of those eight ... two is now half paralyzed from strokes ... three has heart problems .. four is diabetic ... two is dead ... one before he hit forty and the other just over forty five from heart related complications ...
we that is still alive only me is out and they is still in the business ... I got out about ten years ago .... being more on software related.
I smoke kretek cigarettes and rolled tobacco, I drink ... I eat all manners of food the nutritionists say is 'bad' for you ... but only natural sources ... no shelf packaged mass produced food stuffs ... I am still kicking the footie with the kids once in a while.

I don;t need the tin foil hats ... I just get away from it all and stay away from it all ....
thanks all the same ... peace fo mind gets me a long way in the long way ... so far it has not done me wrong.

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View PostMerc14, on 28 May 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

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Yet somehow life expectancy has risen in the developed world for decades.

yes ... but what kind of 'life' ? Quality is too ?
and how does life expectancy figures that much into all this ?
as we know life expectancy can be due to many factors "

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Edited by third_eye, 28 May 2013 - 02:55 PM.

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' ... life and death carry on as they always have ~ and always will, only the dreamer is gone ~ behind the flow of imagination, beyond any effort to be still
dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
'

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:48 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 28 May 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Sure Merc .. when I started out there were eight of us ... me and friends ... of those eight ... two is now half paralyzed from strokes ... three has heart problems .. four is diabetic ... two is dead ... one before he hit forty and the other just over forty five from heart related complications ...
they're still in the business ... I got out about ten years ago .... being more on software related.

I don;t need the tin foil hats ... I just get away from it all and stay away from it all ....
thanks all the same ...

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I don't know what you did before or what you are refrring to here so maybe you can enlighten me.  The statistics, if relatable, are striking.  Your post, however, makes a comparison to the general population where life expectancy has been increasing.  Too much of anything is usually not a good thing but I would gues the sedentary lifestyle some fall into becaause of too much tech kils more that radio waves from a router in the house and no one should sleep with a transmitter/receiver by their head.

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:57 PM

I'd be willing to pay an extra $5 - $10 for extra shielding to prevent even low levels of exposure.  Hell, line the plastic cases of said devices with a thin layer of lead on the inside or something, it couldn't cost that much.

Take your antioxidants if you use a wide range of wireless devices.

Edited by WoIverine, 28 May 2013 - 02:59 PM.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 03:02 PM

View PostMerc14, on 28 May 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

I don't know what you did before or what you are refrring to here so maybe you can enlighten me.  The statistics, if relatable, are striking.  Your post, however, makes a comparison to the general population where life expectancy has been increasing.  Too much of anything is usually not a good thing but I would gues the sedentary lifestyle some fall into becaause of too much tech kils more that radio waves from a router in the house and no one should sleep with a transmitter/receiver by their head.

our lifestyles is pretty average ... not health freaks or physical nuts // we do what comes best and naturally ... just normal average Joes I guess you might say //
there are factors involved is what I'm saying ... saying that it's totally out of the equation is not right too ....
everything contributes ... big or small ... direct or indirect ... its that last straw on the camels back ...
the camel figures very much in how much straw there is before that last straw ...

It has an effect on our lives ....  that much is certain ... its just another pile on the crap shoot table ....

:tu:

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dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
'

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third_eye ' s cavern ~ bring own beer


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:05 PM

The earth itself is radioactive. The sun produces infinitely more radiation than anything a router could do. As stated earlier, we have been bombarded since, well forever. Our lifespans continue, mostly, to increase regardless.

So much time needlessly wasted fretting over what might harm people when many of the things that kill are ignored. Live life carefully and remember, no one lives forever.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:29 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 28 May 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

our lifestyles is pretty average ... not health freaks or physical nuts // we do what comes best and naturally ... just normal average Joes I guess you might say //
there are factors involved is what I'm saying ... saying that it's totally out of the equation is not right too ....
everything contributes ... big or small ... direct or indirect ... its that last straw on the camels back ...
the camel figures very much in how much straw there is before that last straw ...

It has an effect on our lives ....  that much is certain ... its just another pile on the crap shoot table ....

:tu:

I love the image in the earlier edit and so true.

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:35 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 27 May 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

I suspect it's very much dependent upon nearness to the wifi device.  Just as the young woman noticed the effect of the radiation on her subsequent behavior from sleeping with her phone next to her head, so too the plants suffer similar effects.  That's why it's called radiation, after all. :tu:

There is a related phenomenon to this, called the Baxster Effect, in which it was determined that plants, like humans, exhibit galvanic skin response.

And I found a piccy

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Image taken from below source that states:

How to Avoid Mobile Phone Radiation?

"The World Health Organization has recently classified Mobile Phones as “carcinogenic hazards.”  Carcinogenic Hazards are the objects which pose significant cancer risk to humans.

read more
http://www.technojou...bile-radiation/

Im not so bothered really, I text mostly!!

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:44 PM

Thought I may as well post this vid for any who havent seen it yet, Popping corn with cell phone radiation!





spoiler
http://edition.cnn.c...one.popcorn.cnn

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:55 PM

View Postseeder, on 28 May 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

And I found a piccy

Posted Image

Image taken from below source that states:

How to Avoid Mobile Phone Radiation?

"The World Health Organization has recently classified Mobile Phones as “carcinogenic hazards.”  Carcinogenic Hazards are the objects which pose significant cancer risk to humans.

read more
http://www.technojou...bile-radiation/

Im not so bothered really, I text mostly!!

I'd like to see a heat pic after a 15 min "conversion" with just a piece of palstic held to the ear that's the size of a cell phone.  A pic proves the preconceived notion, so it's a fact, regardless on how thorough the tesing was.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:58 PM

And another thing, how did the test go from cell phones to a router.  You don't need a router to have a working cell phone.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:01 PM

View Postseeder, on 28 May 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Thought I may as well post this vid for any who havent seen it yet, Popping corn with cell phone radiation!





spoiler
http://edition.cnn.c...one.popcorn.cnn

Sorry friend, that's fake. Go try it yourself.

http://www.wired.com...ellphones-cant/

http://www.truthorfi...ell-popcorn.htm

http://urbanlegends....one-popcorn.htm

So on, so forth. Don't believe everything you see. I would of thought it was pretty obvious that it was fake, but, apparently not.





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