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The Ancient Alien Theory Is True


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#5416    zoser

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:07 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 20 January 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:


Andesite is quartz based, but it also has a 6% amount of CaO (calcium oxide) which can be treated with oxalic acid, as I showed you before.

But then only the surface will be changed. altered, and that is that shine, that 'vitrification' you keep talking about.

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Which rules out the possibility that the Andesite blocks were 'poured'.  The geopolymer theory even falls down when considering the pyramids because the GP contains a significant amount of red granite.  

Another theory is needed to account for the high precision work in the Kings Chamber for example.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 January 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

Which rules out the possibility that the Andesite blocks were 'poured'.  The geopolymer theory even falls down when considering the pyramids because the GP contains a significant amount of red granite.  

Another theory is needed to account for the high precision work in the Kings Chamber for example.

And THAT'S why I posted before that only part of Davidovits' theory could be used to explain the Peruvian/Bolivian blocks..

I have never said the andesite blocks were poured, I have repeatedly said that only the surface of these andesite blocks could have been chemically altered/softened.

Zoser, why do you make me repeat what I posted over and over  and over again?


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:52 PM

Zoser and Crikey, if the two of you are REALLY 'open-minded', you will try to find a plant, with red, fleshy and spongy leaves that is able to corrode metal and soften stone. Preferably found in the Perené Valley in Peru,

Being open-minded means you are eager to explore alternative explanations, and not stick to something that thrills your fantasy nerves ("God", "angels" or "aliens").


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 20 January 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:


Zoser, why do you make me repeat what I posted over and over  and over again?


Relax and have a drink.  I am.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

And NONE of the socalled 'open-minded' people even tried to touch the subject of Romans carving and transporting pillars weighing 60 tons each and for a 100 kilometers.

View Postzoser, on 20 January 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

Relax and have a drink.  I am.

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I am quite relaxed, and I hope you ponder about what I posted.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 20 January 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

And NONE of the socalled 'open-minded' people even tried to touch the subject of Romans carving and transporting pillars weighing 60 tons each and for a 100 kilometers.



I am quite relaxed, and I hope you ponder about what I posted.

Well my answer for now is that we have never really discussed in any detail the hauling.  All of my efforts have been directed at the skulls, vitrification, and moulding.  Not that I'm convinced that the Ancient Peruvians man hauled the blocks at Sacsayhuaman, far from it.  I think there was some exotic technology at play, and to see what that might have been one needs to look at the force of sound and the Leedskalnin mystery.

The Romans?  Well it's amazing what an unlimited number of slaves can do.  Hats off to their achievements but it will never be the subject of an Ancient Aliens Documentary.  It's the precision that is the real mystery not the transportation.   That's a secondary issue.

Now can I go and finish off my bottle of wine?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:21 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 January 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

[....]  Well it's amazing what an unlimited number of slaves can do.  Hats off to their achievements but it will never be the subject of an Ancient Aliens Documentary.  [...]
Romans did used slaves, but pre-Inca civilization no no? Bummer...
And BTW, what is unlimited? Didn't you said something about unlimited copper resources needed to drill the holes, while completely unaware of the total length of the holes, huh?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:21 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 January 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

Well my answer for now is that we have never really discussed in any detail the hauling.  All of my efforts have been directed at the skulls, vitrification, and moulding.  Not that I'm convinced that the Ancient Peruvians man hauled the blocks at Sacsayhuaman, far from it.  I think there was some exotic technology at play, and to see what that might have been one needs to look at the force of sound and the Leedskalnin mystery.

The Romans?  Well it's amazing what an unlimited number of slaves can do.  Hats off to their achievements but it will never be the subject of an Ancient Aliens Documentary.  It's the precision that is the real mystery not the transportation.   That's a secondary issue.

Now can I go and finish off my bottle of wine?

I hope you did watch those granite pillars?

They were smooth, and in one piece, each of them.

All of these pillars were transported with ropes, and for a 100 miles.

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And FYI, we HAVE discussed transportation.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

THe need for the deep water boots becomes more apparent !
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:53 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 20 January 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

And NONE of the socalled 'open-minded' people even tried to touch the subject of Romans carving and transporting pillars weighing 60 tons each and for a 100 kilometers.

Whoa, the "jigsaw wall" question hasn't been satisfactorily explained by the skeptics yet, or have I missed it?
If they were carved by hand with primitive tools, why on earth didn't the ancient peoples make it much easier on themselves by carving square or rectangular stones instead of multi- angled ones like these?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:06 PM

Who else could it have been but ETs who put rocks together in a wacky fashion, indeed. I think that's the smoking gnu right there.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:10 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 20 January 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

Who else could it have been but ETs who put rocks together in a wacky fashion, indeed. I think that's the smoking gnu right there.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:14 PM

View PostCrikey, on 20 January 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

Whoa, the "jigsaw wall" question hasn't been satisfactorily explained by the skeptics yet, or have I missed it?
If they were carved by hand with primitive tools, why on earth didn't the ancient peoples make it much easier on themselves by carving square or rectangular stones instead of multi- angled ones like these?



yes you missed it. why not go back just 20 pages and catch up? Its the very least you can do if you want to jump in the conversation, isnt it? These walls are all round the med too, you know that includes roman and greek plus more, oh and japan of course. Funny with your posts pics isn't it, that the higher the walls, the smaller the top stones...

guess man was making it easy for himself after all. If you want to be taken seriously why not do as I suggest and read the last 20 pages?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:30 PM

View Postseeder, on 20 January 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

...If you want to be taken seriously why not do as I suggest and read the last 20 pages?...

I knew somebody'd say that, it's an old debating trick to fob somebody off and avoid giving them a brief straight answer..:)
Anyway if the answer to "jigsaw walls" is so simple, why does it need 20 pages to explain it? Is there anybody here who can explain it in a single sentence?


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

View Postsslama, on 20 January 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:


The Inca's didn't use morta and their huge granite stones fit together so completely a needle won't fit between them.  It's a mystery how they cut these huge stones.

Except there's a clip in this thread showing Protzen and his crew doing exactly that.  By hand.  With pounding stones.


View Postsslama, on 20 January 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

It's impossible to cut them without using laser.

Lasers won't cut smoothly through stone.  The temperature differential would crack the stone.  If you want to postulate some "super laser," which would require a power source like a modern power station, then you'll have to explain why it is that the quarries don't have huge melted out gouges where the laser came through the other side of each stone they cut.


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