[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

I think the vampire craze started a long time ago. I believed at one time in vampires. As a high schooler that did not get along with the rest of the students. I wanted to rebel. So myself and some others formed a little group. Guess what? I grew up. Thats what is still going on today. Wannabes who are unhappy with their life. This applys to all ages. I still know I guy from back in our group at school that is still into it. Some people never grow up.

[forestdweller]

Yes , I would agree that would be extremely erotic for some!

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[Veliska]

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Yes , I would agree that would be extremely erotic for some!

[Veliska]

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I stole your pic!*mine*

[forestdweller]

To Eric , great quote!

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

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To Eric , great quote!

[Veliska]

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yeah yeah...lol

[JackalnChainz]

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This vampire stuff is unsubstantiated rubbish. There is NO evidence supporting ANY form of vampirism.

Your statement as a whole is rubbish. There are many documented cases of blood drinkers. I watched one on a popular reality show, just not long ago, drinking blood from a champagne glass. So I would say, you are very wrong, and your statement (which was only meant to demean), is infact rubbish.

[JackalnChainz]

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I don't believe in anything like this, I am a very skeptical person about almost everything that can't be proven by sience, this is one of those things.
I don't beleive Vampires are real. I don't believe that people really have needed to drink blood to survive, yet there are people who did do stuff like that. Though whether or not they would have died with out it is a completely different story. I really don't know or have any facts or statistics on something like this; there is no proof that these people would have died without drinking blood, but there is no evidence to say these people didn't need blood. I personally don't think vampires exist, but don't have any proof to say they don't.
I think an issue like this is one that you can use the point 'there is no proof' to support both arguments.

I agree with this post to a point. It seems to me we just had a similar thread. I remember addressing this recently. We decided that though there are indeed people consuming the blood of others, it is quite another matter, their need for it. There is nobody that would succumb due to not being able to drink blood. But it is quite verifiable that vampirism is real and alive today.

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

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Your statement as a whole is rubbish. There are many documented cases of blood drinkers. I watched one on a popular reality show, just not long ago, drinking blood from a champagne glass. So I would say, you are very wrong, and your statement (which was only meant to demean), is infact rubbish.

Blood drinking does not mean vampires. It means mental illness.

[Axey]

The term "vampirism", means to steal somebody else's vitality, that could mean almost anything. If I steal somebody's money, technically, I could be considered a vampire.
The modern vampire image (presented as a seductive, supernatural creature) is an adapted version of what was originally Bram Stoker's image of a vampire, but anyone who has actually read the novel will know that even Stoker's vampire image varies greatly from the modern vampire image (Dracula was originally described as having reeking breath and a mono-brow, not too sexy eh?). Stoker actually got alot of his ideas from Le Fanu's "Carmilla".

Anyway, the pre-stoker vampire image of Europe was usually one of a rotting corpse, more similar to the modern protrayal of a "Zombie" (Which, going off on a tangent, were never described as carnivorous creatures). I beleive the most likely explanations for Vampiricism/ Lycanthropy, in Europe over the last 1000 years were as follows (stating with the most likely).

1. Rabies (Can be passed on through the Saliva, causes fear of water, possibly explains holy water fear, and fear of refletion, which could explain mirror thing, many other vampire/wolf traits)
2. Porthyria (7 different ways of getting this, 1 of which is through the genes, it is actually in the Royal Family, Richard III had it. It likely meant that small famillies of vampires emerged in Europe)
3. Ergotism (Ergot Bread Poisoning) (Look it up. Ergot is a substance used to make LSD, and can infect wheat, rye, and poison entire villages)
4. Catalepsy/ Scizophrenia (Catalepsy can lead to death-like comas, and is linked to schizophrenia, this likely means that Catalepsy victims would have been buried alive)
5. Premature Burial (See above)
6. Foreign Animals (A Lion in ancient England would have been impossible to explain, it would have been described as wolf-like.)
7. Feral Children (Abandoned children that have been raised by dogs or wolves, this occurence is surprisingly common, even today)
8. Clinical Lycanthropy (The dissillusion that one can transform into a wolf, also know as "Zooanthropy")
9. Haematophilia (Sexual Urge to consume blood)
10. Paranoia
11. A mixture of all of these...

[Veliska]

Axey on Nov 10 2007, 10:35 PM, said:

The term "vampirism", means to steal somebody else's vitality, that could mean almost anything. If I steal somebody's money, technically, I could be considered a vampire.
The modern vampire image (presented as a seductive, supernatural creature) is an adapted version of what was originally Bram Stoker's image of a vampire, but anyone who has actually read the novel will know that even Stoker's vampire image varies greatly from the modern vampire image (Dracula was originally described as having reeking breath and a mono-brow, not too sexy eh?). Stoker actually got alot of his ideas from Le Fanu's "Carmilla".

Anyway, the pre-stoker vampire image of Europe was usually one of a rotting corpse, more similar to the modern protrayal of a "Zombie" (Which, going off on a tangent, were never described as carnivorous creatures). I beleive the most likely explanations for Vampiricism/ Lycanthropy, in Europe over the last 1000 years were as follows (stating with the most likely).

1. Rabies (Can be passed on through the Saliva, causes fear of water, possibly explains holy water fear, and fear of refletion, which could explain mirror thing, many other vampire/wolf traits)
2. Porthyria (7 different ways of getting this, 1 of which is through the genes, it is actually in the Royal Family, Richard III had it. It likely meant that small famillies of vampires emerged in Europe)
3. Ergotism (Ergot Bread Poisoning) (Look it up. Ergot is a substance used to make LSD, and can infect wheat, rye, and poison entire villages)
4. Catalepsy/ Scizophrenia (Catalepsy can lead to death-like comas, and is linked to schizophrenia, this likely means that Catalepsy victims would have been buried alive)
5. Premature Burial (See above)
6. Foreign Animals (A Lion in ancient England would have been impossible to explain, it would have been described as wolf-like.)
7. Feral Children (Abandoned children that have been raised by dogs or wolves, this occurence is surprisingly common, even today)
8. Clinical Lycanthropy (The dissillusion that one can transform into a wolf, also know as "Zooanthropy")
9. Haematophilia (Sexual Urge to consume blood)
10. Paranoia
11. A mixture of all of these...

Ummmm....eeewwww, gross, nastey, sick, discusting, uuhhhh what is another word for that???

[BlueMoon65]

The most professional and credible research out there on the 'real vampire community' or modern-day vampires is from Suscitatio Enterprises and the Atlanta Vampire Alliance compiled from survey responses from over 600 self-reported psychic or sanguinarian vampires gathered from 2006 to 2007. Oh, and we're not talking the 10 question "Do you burn in sunlight" crap either; more like 900+ questions that ask demographics, medical, social, religious, paranormal, education, etc!

<a href="http://www.suscitatio.com" target="_blank">http://www.suscitatio.com</a>

<a href="http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com" target="_blank">http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com</a>

Articles about the research and vampires:

"Would The Real Vampires Please Stand Up?"
- Blog Contributed By Michelle Belanger
<a href="http://paranormalinsider.com/2007/09/would_the_real_vampires_please.php" target="_blank">http://paranormalinsider.com/2007/09/would...ires_please.php</a>

"Vampires: Fact Or Fiction?" - Interview With Zero & Merticus
True-Ghost-Story.com - November 24, 2007
<a href="http://www.true-ghost-story.com/readarticle.php?article_id=65" target="_blank">http://www.true-ghost-story.com/readarticl...p?article_id=65</a>

This post has been edited by BlueMoon65: 27 November 2007 - 12:39 AM

[AngelXVI]

I am pretty open minded... But it is my opinion that vampires are myths!!!

Reach for the garlic and crucifix

[~Cheese~]

I don't know much about vampires and I don't know if I want to know but I did read this topic about a Vamire that helped the town.. he was looked upon as a respectable and mighty person from the villagers point of view.. What was his name?