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#1    Gandalf900

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 07:09 PM

This report, "Video Analysis of an Anomalous Object Filmed during
Apollo 16", is found in the "Journal of Scientific Exploration",
(2003),Vol. 17, No. 3, pp. 409-433.
The article contains a still photo from the camera footage showing
the UFO near the Moon against the black backdrop of space.
In brief, this Report states that Apollo XVI commander, astronaut
John Young, filmed this saucer-shaped object moving in an unusual
trajectory above the Moon (NASA Film CL-862).
The diameter of this disc was 60-120 km, comparing it to known
craters of similar size. Thus, if we average the diameter estimate
to 90 kilomters, that would make the craft 55 miles wide!
Nakamura reports that the object "appears to be an artificial
structure consisting of a disc that has a prominent dome at the
center, ... suggest[ing] that the object is a very large
extraterrestrial spaceship."


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Posted 03 January 2004 - 08:59 PM

Just a pointer. When providing such information a link to the source article and supposed picture lendss more credibility to your claim.

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 09:30 PM

Spot on Psychoticseaotter thumbsup.gif

Could youplease provide a link Gandalf?It would helpgreatly  original.gif

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 11:46 PM

THIS is the website for the Journal of Scientific Exploration, and while they do have on line access to some sample articles - you need an adobe acrobat reader to view them - the specific article Lori refers to is not one of them. That makes it difficult to vouch for the credibility and/or accuracy of the article, but I found an alternate source that discusses the 'event' which offers a critical analysis in a thorough and professional manner. CLICK HERE TO SEE PHOTO AND READ ARTICLE

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 12:31 AM

Gandalf900,
The title of this thread is "For those of you who need proof",but some people will never accept these things no matter how much proof there is.If a ufo landed at the White House and did an interview on t.v. and the president announced that it was real,etc.there would still be people that refuse to belive it.

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 02:07 AM

Tess - thats a little unfair, i believe you'll find that those of us on this forum who are skeptical about alien visitations would be quite happy to believe if conclusive proof was presented to us. I have, so far as yet, not seen any such proof.

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 02:14 AM

QUOTE (PurpleStuart @ Jan 3 2004, 08:07 PM)
Tess - thats a little unfair, i believe you'll find that those of us on this forum who are skeptical about alien visitations would be quite happy to believe if conclusive proof was presented to us. I have, so far as yet, not seen any such proof.

Agreed.

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 02:37 AM

It may seem a little unfair to say,but it also happens to be the truth.There Are people that are unwilling to open their minds and accept certain things( not necessarily the people on this forum,i'm talking about people in general).You must admit,if a ufo did land at the White House and it was proven to be authentic,there would be a small majority of the population that would never accept it,they would have their own "theory",they would claim it was faked by the govt.,etc.

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 03:39 AM

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there would be a small majority of the population that would never accept it,they would have their own "theory",they would claim it was faked by the govt.,etc.


well there are people who believe that the bible states the earth is flat and that there is a giant conspiracy hiding the fact the earth is flat from everyone...yes siree, lots of idiots out there:)


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Posted 04 January 2004 - 04:54 AM

QUOTE (Tess @ Jan 4 2004, 01:37 AM)
You must admit,if a ufo did land at the White House and it was proven to be authentic,there would be a small majority of the population that would never accept it,they would have their own "theory",they would claim it was faked by the govt.,etc.

I'd have to agree with you Tess thumbsup.gif .Most of the people out there say that they need to be seeing the whole event or maybe a very strong and concrete proof in order to believe it,but really that's not the case.I have asked a few people around here about thier thoughts on aliens & they said,"Seeing Is Believing".But it's usually when they see it,they don't believe it! blink.gif  wacko.gif They'd use all those wierd & 'mind-baffling' theories to debunk the whole thing,I think NASA's a pro here tongue.gif .Or even though they had nothing to say,they'd still not accept it & quickly forget about it.It's really clear that a big majority of people in this world are just plain ignorant. sad.gif  

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 06:37 AM

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They'd use all those wierd & 'mind-baffling' theories to debunk the whole thing,I think NASA's a pro here  .Or even though they had nothing to say,they'd still not accept it & quickly forget about it.It's really clear that a big majority of people in this world are just plain ignorant.


because they aren't stupid enough to believe something without exploring more realistic possibilities first?  


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Posted 04 January 2004 - 08:16 AM

QUOTE (bathory @ Jan 4 2004, 05:37 AM)
because they aren't stupid enough to believe something without exploring more realistic possibilities first?

Nope,not that.If you'd watch that documentary about the Moon Landing Hoax,there were reasonably quite a lot of questions that were directed to NASA (e.g. no crater made by probe,shadows not aligned with light and body,how did astronauts resist the radiation out there as thier first time out in space,etc...) & the NASA spokesman did little to nothing in answering those questions,he would just say that the moon landing hoax conspiracy was just rubbish....over & over again.Though I don't quite believe the hoax was there but if I was some amatuer,I'd think the whole moon landing was a hoax myself too.

So with that,I think NASA's doing more than anything in covering everything up. grin2.gif Even the recent case of Sci-Fi suing them for the Kecksburg thing,and up til now I still don't see them giving the whole important info out. blink.gif Personally,I think NASA's crap. tongue.gif

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 10:04 AM

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Though I don't quite believe the hoax was there but if I was some amatuer,I'd think the whole moon landing was a hoax myself too.


Nasa has been aswering the same questions for years, yet the same idiots keep asking them.


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Posted 04 January 2004 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (bathory @ Jan 4 2004, 09:04 AM)
Nasa has been aswering the same questions for years, yet the same idiots keep asking them.

  blink.gif  blink.gif Answering the same questions??....I don't quite get what you're saying there.The people (or public) have come out with related questions but it's always left unanswered by NASA time after time,and they're still seeking to know the truth.But NASA knows that this people are only a handful and wouldn't provide much of a disturbance.Therefore they'd just come out with some wierd excuse or a dumb theory of thiers....and the majority of people would always accept that as a fact without giving much of a thought,which is truly sad. disgust.gif  

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 11:08 AM

there is plenty of information out there that disproves much of what the conspiracists say, yet the conspiracists still insist on using the same old arguements, the documentary aired ages ago showed that, NASA has adressed those question many times and i'm sure they are sick of people asking them.





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