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#16    EmpressStarXVII

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 01:36 AM

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 01:48 AM

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I believe its a atmospheric condition caused by ice cyrstals. As you can see later on the video that it was cold and it had snowed where this has accured. That the best guess that I have unless otherwise posted.


This is almost certainly correct, I disagree with Alex01 that this is fake.

I have been doing some research on this on the excellent atmospheric optics site: http://www.atoptics.co.uk/

Certainly the two "false suns" nearest the real sun look like the sundogs (parhelia to give them their technical name) that I am familiar with and have seen many times myself. These are 22o parhelia (as they are 22o from the sun). The circle passing through the sun and the sundogs is a parhelic circle. The second set of sun dogs further out are a less common form of sundog, 120o parhelia.

Although this is an unusual display it is not unprecedented, in fact the site I linked to has some photographs of far more complicated displays.

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 01:21 PM

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This is almost certainly correct, I disagree with Alex01 that this is fake.

I have been doing some research on this on the excellent atmospheric optics site: http://www.atoptics.co.uk/

Certainly the two "false suns" nearest the real sun look like the sundogs (parhelia to give them their technical name) that I am familiar with and have seen many times myself. These are 22o parhelia (as they are 22o from the sun). The circle passing through the sun and the sundogs is a parhelic circle. The second set of sun dogs further out are a less common form of sundog, 120o parhelia.

Although this is an unusual display it is not unprecedented, in fact the site I linked to has some photographs of far more complicated displays.


Hello Waspie Dwarf.

What I mean't when I said it is fake is that they are not really 5 suns, not really 5 stars, well anyone can deduce that by simple logic no?

It could be parhelia of course but........... there are 5?



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Posted 07 October 2007 - 11:44 PM

so the 5 "suns" are an optical illusion right? is it an illusion of our eyes or a natural illusion? sorry if that doesn't make any sense

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 12:18 AM

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so the 5 "suns" are an optical illusion right? is it an illusion of our eyes or a natural illusion? sorry if that doesn't make any sense


It is caused by light being refracted through ice crystals in the upper atmosphere. There is just one sun but four images of the sun. I wouldn't use the expression "optical illusion" as there is no form of "trickery" involved, natural phenomenon would be more accurate.

Edited by Waspie_Dwarf, 09 October 2007 - 12:16 AM.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 04:51 PM

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It is caused by light being refracted through ice crystals in the upper atmosphere. There is just one sun but four images of the sun. I wouldn't use the expression "optical illusion" as there is no form of 2trickery2 involved, natural phenomenon would be more accurate.



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Posted 08 October 2007 - 11:48 PM

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It is caused by light being refracted through ice crystals in the upper atmosphere. There is just one sun but four images of the sun. I wouldn't use the expression "optical illusion" as there is no form of 2trickery2 involved, natural phenomenon would be more accurate.

thanks waspie!

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 07:58 PM

only 1 is real,the others are fake............


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Posted 21 October 2007 - 12:37 AM

spikeman25 on Sep 29 2007, 12:05 AM, said:

We only have one sun in our galaxy, But astronomers have said that there are other suns out there.


Of course!  I am just glad that the Earth's nearest star (sun) is our only one, otherwise people's cupboards would be stocked up with suntan oil/lotion laugh.gif

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 08:13 AM

telirium on Oct 7 2007, 11:44 PM, said:

so the 5 "suns" are an optical illusion right? is it an illusion of our eyes or a natural illusion? sorry if that doesn't make any sense



Ok so you're going to believe that we are orbiting around five suns at once ..

And WE don't make sense?

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 08:21 AM

AmazingAtheist on Oct 22 2007, 03:13 AM, said:

Ok so you're going to believe that we are orbiting around five suns at once ..

And WE don't make sense?

go worship darwin or something



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Posted 22 October 2007 - 08:38 AM

Insults are not recommended ..

And on a side note, my name is AmazingAtheist ..

Not AmazingEvolutionist ..

Edited by AmazingAtheist, 22 October 2007 - 08:39 AM.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 09:15 AM

okay then go worship nothing then?

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 09:33 AM

If you knew anything about atheists -- You'd know that we don't worship anything ..

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 08:24 PM

telirium and AmazingAtheist, please cut out the petty bickering.

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