[MID]

batvette, on 17 November 2009 - 01:15 PM, said:

Well I had reserved a small bit of suspicion of the same, and it was in fact based upon rational concerns- unfortunately the facts I based it on were in error, being exposed to more facts lessened the suspicion to near nil.

Glad to hear it, batvette!

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I don't think it's wrong to have a general distrust of our government...

Neither do I...especially when it grows to the size and has the power this present government has.

[batvette]

MID, on 17 November 2009 - 04:39 PM, said:

Glad to hear it, batvette!



Neither do I...especially when it grows to the size and has the power this present government has.

I was happy to be corrected for my errors. In being proven wrong, I learned facts I didn't know so don't consider it "losing an internet argument". Too many think credibility comes from insisting you are right for 100 posts when it's actually recognizing quickly when you are wrong.
I'm sure many hoax believers also display the "don't let facts get in the way of my beliefs" fault.
Our beliefs and opinions are formed by the body of subjective interpretations of actual facts,that we have been exposed to- that others have access to as well. If you come to a forum with your opinions and the facts they are based upon don't stand up to public scrutiny, falling one by one, it is honest and credible to adjust your beliefs accordingly.
I see it alot from the 9/11 people who don't help their side when they may have a real grievance with government ineptitude or even involvement in some form. (maybe Bin Laden was put up to it by someone- who knows!) Reasonable people won't look at it if they keep insisting the absurd is factual.

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batvette, on 18 November 2009 - 07:56 PM, said:

I was happy to be corrected for my errors. In being proven wrong, I learned facts I didn't know so don't consider it "losing an internet argument". Too many think credibility comes from insisting you are right for 100 posts when it's actually recognizing quickly when you are wrong.
I'm sure many hoax believers also display the "don't let facts get in the way of my beliefs" fault.
Our beliefs and opinions are formed by the body of subjective interpretations of actual facts,that we have been exposed to- that others have access to as well. If you come to a forum with your opinions and the facts they are based upon don't stand up to public scrutiny, falling one by one, it is honest and credible to adjust your beliefs accordingly.
I see it alot from the 9/11 people who don't help their side when they may have a real grievance with government ineptitude or even involvement in some form. (maybe Bin Laden was put up to it by someone- who knows!) Reasonable people won't look at it if they keep insisting the absurd is factual.

Well said, batvette...appreciate your honesty.

[MID]

batvette, on 18 November 2009 - 08:56 PM, said:

I was happy to be corrected for my errors. In being proven wrong, I learned facts I didn't know so don't consider it "losing an internet argument".

That's a hell of a great attitude to have.

I didn't consider it an Internet argument, to be honest.
You did what I've asked HBs to do countless times on these Moon threads...

Phrase doubts as questions.
It really helps the learning process!

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Too many think credibility comes from insisting you are right for 100 posts when it's actually recognizing quickly when you are wrong.

Impressive...and true.

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I'm sure many hoax believers also display the "don't let facts get in the way of my beliefs" fault.

The vast majority...

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Our beliefs and opinions are formed by the body of subjective interpretations of actual facts,that we have been exposed to- that others have access to as well. If you come to a forum with your opinions and the facts they are based upon don't stand up to public scrutiny, falling one by one, it is honest and credible to adjust your beliefs accordingly.

I would agree.