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[Omnaka]

Father said, "Science Is Playing God With out a Proper Degree". (I never in my wildest dreams thought I would be Quoting God)

What this means is Because Father and Mother (God) Put The spirit in the body, He will not Put one in A clone, And it will be doomed to Failier. Without a spirit which has been properly Unconditionally loved By God First , If another spirit jumps in to this body , it would inherently Be doomed to be Evil

There are spirits Which after this life, Shied away from Fathers love Light, which will stay earth bound untill the Last day, These spirits, would be the likely candidates For jumping in to a Clone.

Please don't get Me wrong, THere are Good Earth bound Spirits also, that interact with Us every day, But after Death, These sirits which can Travel between Both worlds Heaven and Earth, Have after Death of the body, Joind with Fathers love Light. Many will backpeddle away from this light ot of shame or fear.

Those who pass through the veil, can pass back To continue Loving his bro On Earth as well as in Heaven.

(Funny My disclaimer is longer than my OP)


Love Omnaka

Edited by Omnaka, 12 January 2008 - 09:19 PM.

[mdhmdh]

wat the hel kind of spiritulal bull is that u relly belive wat ur saying ha

[TheClassic]

God puts a soul in every human being, I see no reason why a clone would be different. It would created through a different process, but a human being nonetheless. Its just the flesh that takes the appearence, the mind and soul will be one of a kind.

[Neognosis]

A very interesting hypothesis based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. But an interesting thought nonetheless.

I'm curious when God told you that "science is playing god without the proper degree."

Does god speak to you regularly?

and what happens to a clone without this god given spirit?

[Godofcats]

dude you say some freaky stuff sometimes. i'm not saying it's bad because i think it's interesting. so you're saying a clone will have no soul, it will basicly be like a robot? also a spirit here on earth will jump into a clones body? you may be right for all i know.

[Omnaka]

Neognosis on Jan 11 2008, 05:30 PM, said:

A very interesting hypothesis based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. But an interesting thought nonetheless.

I'm curious when God told you that "science is playing god without the proper degree."

Does god speak to you regularly?

and what happens to a clone without this god given spirit?

I'm curious when God told you that "science is playing god without the proper degree."

About two years ago.


Does god speak to you regularly?

If I pray and call on Father , He will come. (Manifest), But I know Father and Mother( God) are with Me always.


and what happens to a clone without this god given spirit?

I answered That in the opening Post.

Love Omnaka

[Omnaka]

Godofcats on Jan 11 2008, 05:30 PM, said:

dude you say some freaky stuff sometimes. i'm not saying it's bad because i think it's interesting. so you're saying a clone will have no soul, it will basicly be like a robot? also a spirit here on earth will jump into a clones body? you may be right for all i know.

Basically Yes, but it would not live long, without a spirit, running the bodily functions.
And if a spirit did happen to jump in to one of these It would be inherently Evil (With out Love).

This could ba a nother reason to Build more Jails (That's a Joke)

Love Omnaka

[Neognosis]

Oh, the clone will be evil then. Got you.

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Basically Yes, but it would not live long, without a spirit, running the bodily functions.

The spirit runs the bodily functions? Did God tell you that too? How is it that Dolly the sheep grew to adulthood? Does this mean that all animals have spirits? They must, if they can have bodily funcitons. Yet Dolly grew to adulthood. Can you ask God to explain this?

[Omnaka]

TheClassic on Jan 11 2008, 05:27 PM, said:

God puts a soul in every human being, I see no reason why a clone would be different. It would created through a different process, but a human being nonetheless. Its just the flesh that takes the appearence, the mind and soul will be one of a kind.

Yes It would be an individual spirit jumping in to a body produced by Man ,if it did manage to Do it, But it is not God's will that this be done, one must be properly loved In the spirit realm, in order to produce this love on Earth in the Physical, The spirits which can pass back and fourth through Fathers veil , Or love light, know Fathers will, and would rather not Go there, not because they are afraid, Or don't have freewill as spirit, But because they Love Father unconditionally.

Love Omnaka

[Darkwind]

Each child born has a unique spirit how ever it gets here.  A clone is just an identical twin.  Also it has to be implanted in a female for gestation.  A baby is just that and no babies are evil.  That only comes when they are introduce to society.

[Neognosis]

Onnaka, are people going to start killing or discriminating against clones then, because they would be inhabbited by an opportunistic and evil spirit?

and what about Dolly the sheep? She lived for 8 years before being put down because she had arthritis and a lung infection. Was she inhabbited by an evil and opportunistic sheep spirit for 8 years? Reserchers don't seem to report Dolly being evil.

So, at least part of your hypothesis can not be correct. Either animals don't have spirits, in which case it is not the spirit that causes bodily functions. Or dolly must have been evil.

What do you think it is? Was Dolly the sheep evil, or do animals not have spirits?

[SunDogDayze]

Omnaka,

As much as I love reading your posts, and I rarely have anything negative to say about what you believe, I have to disagree with you.


I tend to agree with The Classic, who said that God puts a spirit (also called soul in this post) into every human being, and that a clone is a human being, just with a different procedure.


This is what I would say, and remember that I am not even all that certain that humans have a God-created soul anyway.

Unless God himself uses a supernatural force to make a man choose a certain woman or vice versa (which would go against the whole free will idea) then it is just chance that a certain human being is formed from their union, so to speak. There is no intelligent reasoning for it, but just chance and biology. It's the same thing with cloned humans. There is no divine intervention that could only happen with the conventional method of creating a human.

When does God insert a soul into a human? The second it changes from a few cells into a living being? Why could he not do so with a cloned human, since the same process occurs, the cloned human goes from a clump of cells to a living being in the same way. Is not each cloned individual a product of another human, just like a naturally born human? Is it not made of the same elements, and is it not able to develop an individual conscious and emotions just like a naturally created human?

I think that cloned humans would also have a soul, and that the fact that a cloned living being can grow to develop different thoughts and ideals (this is theoretical but suggested) than it's original parent, even though it is a replication of the exact same DNA of the parent human proves that it does have a soul, and would be seen as an individual with a potential of it's own set of thoughts, beliefs, and faith by a higher being.

Also, I do not believe that a soul has any effect on biological processes and effectiveness of physical organs.

[The Silver Thong]

Omnaka on Jan 11 2008, 10:54 AM, said:

Yes It would be an individual spirit jumping in to a body produced by Man ,if it did manage to Do it, But it is not God's will that this be done, one must be properly loved In the spirit realm, in order to produce this love on Earth in the Physical, The spirits which can pass back and fourth through Fathers veil , Or love light, know Fathers will, and would rather not Go there, not because they are afraid, Or don't have freewill as spirit, But because they Love Father unconditionally.

Love Omnaka

If god is all knowing then we are doing exactly what he wants and saw for us. How can man do any wrong when god knows we are doing it and saw it even befor our creation. Clones would be one of god's creatures as well would they not, for he saw use making them and allowed it. I would be pretty proud of my creation for now my creation has becom a creator themself. Ok I have no idea what I'm talking about LOL

The soul does not control our body functions in which way or form! So do souls just float around and hope to find a host? I thought god assigned souls to certin people, again what do I know.

Edited by The Silver Thong, 11 January 2008 - 06:18 PM.

[Omnaka]

Neognosis on Jan 11 2008, 06:07 PM, said:

Onnaka, are people going to start killing or discriminating against clones then, because they would be inhabbited by an opportunistic and evil spirit?

and what about Dolly the sheep? She lived for 8 years before being put down because she had arthritis and a lung infection. Was she inhabbited by an evil and opportunistic sheep spirit for 8 years? Reserchers don't seem to report Dolly being evil.

So, at least part of your hypothesis can not be correct. Either animals don't have spirits, in which case it is not the spirit that causes bodily functions. Or dolly must have been evil.

What do you think it is? Was Dolly the sheep evil, or do animals not have spirits?

LOl, Dolly the evil sheep har ha, ha, I would not Eat the meat,

But seriously Folks.

To your first question, I suppose This could be one scenario. And to answer your second, I think this is the more likly scenario, That they would never make it out of The lab, after seeng what they created. Or they would be "Put Down", maybe used for Body parts for une who has A spitit , put there by God.

Or in Dollies Case, Eaten.

Still don't think I would eat the meat though.

To answer your third Question, I do not think Dolly was evil, But I have been to Heaven and seen very sad Animal spirits.

So who knows.

Love Omnaka

[Irish]

I had an evil clone once, he was going around taunting and mooning complete strangers, and just a real nasty evil clone he was. I finally caught up with and shoved him of a cliff!
Unfortunately I was seen by a police patrol, and charged with…….




Wait for the punch line…….




Making an obscene clone fall