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[eqgumby]

There is no scientific proof for "psi-ball". If the "psions" want to claim it's all about faith, like religion, so be it. As long as they realize there simply is NO proof that they are actually doing anything measurable or quantifiable.

[Sporkling]

eqgumby on Feb 11 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

There is no scientific proof for "psi-ball". If the "psions" want to claim it's all about faith, like religion, so be it. As long as they realize there simply is NO proof that they are actually doing anything measurable or quantifiable.

Ok so your point is?

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

Electrokinesis is me on Feb 11 2008, 08:55 AM, said:

Ok so your point is?

The point is that this subject is nothing more than new age religion for true believers of psychic powers. Faith is all they have.

[muddpuppy]

Electrokinesis is me on Feb 11 2008, 02:55 PM, said:

Ok so your point is?

his point was...dont say its real without substantial evidence to back up ur claims... even if it is possible to make them, y do it if there isnt a practical use for it? seems like a waste of time to me..but as always its just my opinion

[DfizzleShizzle]

There is no proof...Hmm...Ok, I just say...Try it...Skeptics probably won't get the same results, but eh, its worth a try...I started out skeptical, but I htought I should try it before I critisized people, I tried it and I am now battling other skeptics(BIIIIG CIRCLE!)...Just give it a chance...

[Kevin A.]

Heartagram3200 on Feb 11 2008, 07:56 PM, said:

There is no proof...Hmm...Ok, I just say...Try it...Skeptics probably won't get the same results, but eh, its worth a try...I started out skeptical, but I htought I should try it before I critisized people, I tried it and I am now battling other skeptics(BIIIIG CIRCLE!)...Just give it a chance...

For the umpteenth time we have tried it. Some of us at least. I have and I know Eric has before. We tried it and came back with nothing. You know, this stuff has been around for a while. Its really nothing new. Back when I was much younger and going through a little believer stage I really tried all this stuff. I believed in it, I KNEW I could do it, I wanted to do it, I tried. I got no where. This technique, that idea, this thought etc etc. I got nothing. Nothing ever happened. What of those of us that really tried and have nothing but skepticism to show for it?

I wanted, I tried, I believed, I researched, I learned and now I stand before you a skeptic.....

Kevin A.

[Sporkling]

Kevin A. on Feb 12 2008, 09:48 AM, said:

For the umpteenth time we have tried it. Some of us at least. I have and I know Eric has before. We tried it and came back with nothing. You know, this stuff has been around for a while. Its really nothing new. Back when I was much younger and going through a little believer stage I really tried all this stuff. I believed in it, I KNEW I could do it, I wanted to do it, I tried. I got no where. This technique, that idea, this thought etc etc. I got nothing. Nothing ever happened. What of those of us that really tried and have nothing but skepticism to show for it?

I wanted, I tried, I believed, I researched, I learned and now I stand before you a skeptic.....

Kevin A.

Oh i see. Is your mind really focused? How do you know your mind is not cluttered?

[darkbreed]

Psi balls are concentrated balls of any type of energy and can basically be used for any purpose.

I personally suggest healing, such as creating a psi balled filled with healing powers, protection and love, and send it to yourself or other person who needs healing.

You can either draw this energy directly from yourself, or from other sources such as the divine, the sun, the cosmos, other people, the astral planes, and so on.

But beware of becoming an astral vampire, it is not generally a good thing.

Best of luck

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

Heartagram3200 on Feb 11 2008, 06:56 PM, said:

There is no proof...Hmm...Ok, I just say...Try it...Skeptics probably won't get the same results, but eh, its worth a try...I started out skeptical, but I htought I should try it before I critisized people, I tried it and I am now battling other skeptics(BIIIIG CIRCLE!)...Just give it a chance...

I did try it as a kid. NOTHING. Then I grew up.

[DfizzleShizzle]

Heh, and thats what got you nowhere...you're ability to quit when you saw nothing...When you thought it was fake after 3, maybe 4 times of trying it...It took me like 3-4 weeks to learn this man! I tried everynight forever, and it succeeded...The thing that keeps it from working for you is one, how you don't belive in the first place(If you don't belive, in what your supposed to create it just confuses your minds) And two, how you give up after a few tries...



    Man, can't belive I'm on here right now...Man, I could be playing World of Warcraft but noo, they have to do stupid realm maintenence every tuesday which keeps us from playing for about 8 hours....Sorry, lol, just mad.... stupid Blizzard...

Edited by Heartagram3200, 12 February 2008 - 04:15 PM.

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

Heartagram3200 on Feb 12 2008, 10:15 AM, said:

Heh, and thats what got you nowhere...you're ability to quit when you saw nothing...When you thought it was fake after 3, maybe 4 times of trying it...It took me like 3-4 weeks to learn this man! I tried everynight forever, and it succeeded...The thing that keeps it from working for you is one, how you don't belive in the first place(If you don't belive, in what your supposed to create it just confuses your minds) And two, how you give up after a few tries...



    Man, can't belive I'm on here right now...Man, I could be playing World of Warcraft but noo, they have to do stupid realm maintenence every tuesday which keeps us from playing for about 8 hours....Sorry, lol, just mad.... stupid Blizzard...

I have said before. I tried this bunk on and off for years as a teenager.

If you succeeded then prove yourself, otherwise you are talking about pure fiction.

Warcraft explains alot. Makes sense.

[Sporkling]

Eric Raven The Skeptic on Feb 13 2008, 12:22 AM, said:

I have said before. I tried this bunk on and off for years as a teenager.

If you succeeded then prove yourself, otherwise you are talking about pure fiction.

Warcraft explains alot. Makes sense.

Ya but how long have you tried. And how to prove something so random as premonitions?

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

Electrokinesis is me on Feb 12 2008, 10:48 AM, said:

Ya but how long have you tried. And how to prove something so random as premonitions?

Blind belief is such a scary thing.

[Sporkling]

Blind disbelief is a scary thing.

[DfizzleShizzle]

Eh, a little more than preminitions...Like thats the only way I can explain them...Like before I would train them I would be wlaking to my desk and I would get an image in my head of my classroom, I could see where everyone was vividly, what they were doing, how they were stannding, I get bakc to my desk i'll sit down and everyone is in EXACTLY the same positions as in my "vision" I also would get that when people were talking so I'd know what thye were gonna say 5 seconds before they say it...I see an image come in my head of the conversation except a few seconds into the future...Sometimes I'll delibritly try to mess it up by, I'll see the vision, and whne it starts to happen, like rihgt in the middle of it I'll raise my arm, or turn suddenly, something that disrupts it, it's a very wierd feeling it feels like I just shattered a timeline or something when I do  it...But alot of the times I can't move physically when it happens, I can just talk, and it seems like time is going very slow....And when I get out of it alot of times i'm very dizzy and tired...



And just cause I play WoW doesn't mena I'm some fat pimply teenager...I'm actually very skinny an dathletic, not relle athletic but i skateboard and stuff...Just wnated to clear that out of the way lol...