[GUNNARY SEARGENT HARTMAN]

skyeagle409 on Aug 27 2008, 07:44 AM, said:

In that case, the gigantic object the B-52 encountered, was a weather balloon in your view in which case, you have just confirmed for me once again, the following message:


. "If is walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's a moose."

And that statement is absolutely correct, apart from in my opinion, a cow barks and a duck moos. Anyway, I didn't mention weather balloon at all in my comment. I merelt stated that the us army doesn't know it's front from it's rear, and neither does it's airforce.

[GUNNARY SEARGENT HARTMAN]

Mbyte on Aug 27 2008, 09:59 PM, said:

You havn't been alive hundreds, thousands of years. Some people are even sceptical about hypnosis. With sceptics telling people to question everything how why do you think it's not so obvious. There were legends about giant squid. Well giant squids are being found. Maybe not as big as they were in the pictures but we're getting there. Our universe is everything how come we don't know what started it? You'd think that something that we've been apart of sense forever you'd think we'd know what started the universe or maybe a bit more about it.

Hypnosis? Giant Squids? Say, can you get Oliver Twist out there and we'll soon be on the track to a great party. "SOME PEOPLE ARE EVEN SKEPTICAL ABOUT HYPNOSIS"! I know I am!! Erm, basically, we do know what started the universe. The Big Bang. Basically Mbyte, it was a big bang!! and all of a sudden, matter came from no where. I personally wouldn't have guessed it was a bang, the name hides the dsecription. Mbyte, wake up. Hypnosis, Giant squids, you are living in a dream world. yeah, sure like you say, there are large squids, but NOT GIANT SQUID!! Don't you get it. Until we see evidence, I won't believe.


That is all.

[DONTEATUS]

Dough!!!!

[Splodgenessabounds]

GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN on Sep 30 2008, 11:44 PM, said:

Mbyte, wake up. Hypnosis, Giant squids, you are living in a dream world. yeah, sure like you say, there are large squids, but NOT GIANT SQUID!! Don't you get it. Until we see evidence, I won't believe.

That is all.

This is a giant squid.

Architeuthis (Giant Squid)
Architeuthis dux (Atlantic Giant Squid)
Architeuthis martensi (North Pacific Giant Squid)
Architeuthis sanctipauli (Southern Giant Squid)

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Giant_squid

Yes, Giant squids arn't the size of the Titanic, but they do exist. Believe in them now?

I can't get any evidence for aliens or hypnosis but this can do for now.

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Splodgenessabounds on Oct 1 2008, 12:03 AM, said:

This is a giant squid.

Architeuthis (Giant Squid)
Architeuthis dux (Atlantic Giant Squid)
Architeuthis martensi (North Pacific Giant Squid)
Architeuthis sanctipauli (Southern Giant Squid)

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Giant_squid

Yes, Giant squids arn't the size of the Titanic, but they do exist. Believe in them now?

I can't get any evidence for aliens or hypnosis but this can do for now.

giant squids were believed to be a MYTH.

[Splodgenessabounds]

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I'm confused, are you saying there's no such thing as squids which are GIANT i.e 1000ft long or, are you saying there's no such thing as a "Giant Squid"?

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GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN on Oct 1 2008, 07:44 AM, said:

Hypnosis? Giant Squids? Say, can you get Oliver Twist out there and we'll soon be on the track to a great party. "SOME PEOPLE ARE EVEN SKEPTICAL ABOUT HYPNOSIS"! I know I am!! Erm, basically, we do know what started the universe. The Big Bang. Basically Mbyte, it was a big bang!! and all of a sudden, matter came from no where. I personally wouldn't have guessed it was a bang, the name hides the dsecription. Mbyte, wake up. Hypnosis, Giant squids, you are living in a dream world. yeah, sure like you say, there are large squids, but NOT GIANT SQUID!! Don't you get it. Until we see evidence, I won't believe.


That is all.

The Big Bang Theory is in desperate need of retirement. It's a model so badly broken that all it does is explain one thing, redshift from distant galaxies. Steady state theories actually handle all the discrepencies but need to invoke some mechanism to explain redshift.

As for giant squid, you have to remember that Renaissance-era sailings ships were no bigger than modern luxury yachts.

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[skyeagle409]

hazzard on Sep 30 2008, 09:18 PM, said:

knowing perfectly well how much your "knowledge" in this matter is worth to the real world.. .. your belief means less then nothing. But hey, please elaborate...

While SETA is looking out the front door, "Mr. Reality" is stealing them blind out the back door.


Computer jokes :: Top ten possible outcomes of the SETI at home project

10,000 years from now Aliens will land on Earth and ask why no one got there "We're Coming" message. It is discovered that the Aliens had posted it to alt.test and no one saw it. Aliens laugh at SETI at Home idea as akin to reading tea leaves.

http://www.jakesjoke.../joke_23938.php

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hazzard on Sep 30 2008, 09:18 PM, said:

Me, I would rather give these guys 50 bucks, then buy the latest nonsense from Icke, Hoagland or Greer...

The Disclosure Project witnesses have more credibility than SETI, since many of the participant's accounts have already been verified and documented.


Frank Drake Interview

Drake: "One finds there are no unsolved mysteries about Roswell. There are no missing bodies. We know what crashed. It was the pieces of a classified research balloon."

Morrison: "Well, that's the official story, doctor. But maybe you're either part of the official coverup or naive."

Drake: "I could always be part of the coverup. It's something that can never be dismissed."

http://www.rickross....e/ufo/ufo7.html


Considering that he claims above that a classified reearch balloon (Project Mogul balloon) was responislbe for the Roswell incident, I wouldn't be surprised if it were revealed that he is on the government cover-up payroll.

Perhaps, someone should tell Frank Drake that Project Mogul balloons were not classified and often recovered by ordinary citizens for rewards. In addition, Project Mogul balloons were published in newspapers around the coutry, along with details of their experiments, and that the flight he claims was responsible, was actually cancelled due to clouds according to the record, and not flown on June 4, 1947, which is a month before Brazel discovered the crash site anyway.

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[Hazzard]

skyeagle409 on Oct 1 2008, 06:36 AM, said:

The Disclosure Project witnesses have more credibility than SETI, since many of the participant's accounts have already been verified and documented.

Like the 57 different alien species Greer and his "Disclosure" Project had documented..!!??


Yea, I can see how YOU find that more credible then SETI looking for evidence of ETI in the universe
by looking for some signature of its technology.

[NigelTM]

skyeagle409 on Oct 1 2008, 02:36 AM, said:

The Disclosure Project witnesses have more credibility than SETI, since many of the participant's accounts have already been verified and documented.


Frank Drake Interview

Drake: "One finds there are no unsolved mysteries about Roswell. There are no missing bodies. We know what crashed. It was the pieces of a classified research balloon."

Morrison: "Well, that's the official story, doctor. But maybe you're either part of the official coverup or naive."

Drake: "I could always be part of the coverup. It's something that can never be dismissed."

http://www.rickross....e/ufo/ufo7.html


Considering that he claims above that a classified reearch balloon (Project Mogul balloon) was responislbe for the Roswell incident, I wouldn't be surprised if it were revealed that he is on the government cover-up payroll.

Perhaps, someone should tell Frank Drake that Project Mogul balloons were not classified and often recovered by ordinary citizens for rewards. In addition, Project Mogul balloons were published in newspapers around the coutry, along with details of their experiments, and that the flight he claims was responsible, was actually cancelled due to clouds according to the record, and not flown on June 4, 1947, which is a month before Brazel discovered the crash site anyway.

More cherry-picking on your part, which I'll get to in a moment.

First, has it ever occurred to you that Drake, in making the comment you quoted about being part of the coverup, could've been pulling the guy's leg? I thought not.

Second, here's another Drake quote from the link you provided:

, said:

Drake: "Not a single fact has been provided to us that might have come from an extraterrestrial context. We don't think it's happened."

Morrison: "Isn't it possible that this kind of thing is true?"

Drake: "You cannot rule it out, but the case is not proven. The evidence is not there. And my personal opinion is that we're seeing some of the wondrous things the human minds can do."

Which brings us to the extra twist in Joe Firmage's story. It happened while Firmage was half asleep, while his company was going through some stressful negotiations about its upcoming merger.

Firmage: "An image of a being appeared above my bed and we proceeded to have a very unusual conversation. He looked annoyed and bothered and said why have you disturbed me. And I said 'I want to travel in space.' And he chuckled and said 'Why should you have that opportunity. Why should you deserve that?' And I said without really even thinking, 'Because I'm willing to die for it.' And with those words he turned very sober. And out of him came this blue glowing ball of energy and left him and came into me."

Morrison: "Joe says he spoke to this angelic man. And then the beam of energy came right down into his chest."

Drake: "He's not the first one. The ones you hear about are the ones where there are no eyewitnesses present."

Bolding mine.

[AlexG]

Captain Zim on Sep 30 2008, 11:30 PM, said:

The Big Bang Theory is in desperate need of retirement. It's a model so badly broken that all it does is explain one thing, redshift from distant galaxies. Steady state theories actually handle all the discrepencies but need to invoke some mechanism to explain redshift.

Do you have any substantiation for this opinion? How is the BB theory broken? What does it fail to explain? What observations contradict the theory?

[skyeagle409]

hazzard on Oct 1 2008, 08:31 AM, said:

Like the 57 different alien species Greer and his "Disclosure" Project had documented..!!??

How do you know they don't? The Air Force has already indicated different species as well. And, of course, many of those case files that were presented at the Disclosure Project, have already been authenticated, included the incident where a B-747 encountered flying saucers the skeptics claiimed were planets, and then, claimed they were ice clouds after their first initial attempt to debunk that incident had failed, which is why they threw in "ice clouds" to try and debunk that incident, which also failed when meteorological conditions were checked. As one pilot noted; "you could see into next Tuesday."

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Frank Drake and the Drake Equation - between 1000 to 100 million intelligent species

100 million! Far from the 8 original races or the 57 claimed by Clifford Stone. Wow!

Frank Drake, the author of the famed "Drake Equation," which estimates the possible range of intelligent civilizations in our home Milky Way Galaxy, which contains "Our best estimate is that there are somewhere between 1,000 and 100 million advanced extraterrestrial civilizations in the Milky Way," he wrote in his book, "Is Anyone Out There?"

http://richardlalanc...ry/frank-drake/

As I've said before, never ridicule that, for which you don't understand.

But as I"ve said, the witnesses that Greer presented, have had their cases verified already. A couple of such cases that were presented at the Disclosure Project to make my point.


Japan Airlines Flgith 1628

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


Malmstrom AFB Missile Incidents

http://www.cufon.org...strom/malm1.htm

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NigelTM on Oct 1 2008, 01:39 PM, said:

More cherry-picking on your part, which I'll get to in a moment.

First, has it ever occurred to you that Drake, in making the comment you quoted about being part of the coverup, could've been pulling the guy's leg? I thought not.

Second, here's another Drake quote from the link you provided:
Bolding mine.

It was clearly evident that Frank Drake didn't know what he was talking about, especially when asked about Roswell and his response that the experimental balloon was classified, since has already been shown that Mogul balloons were not classified. Hmmmm. Wonder where he got his false evidence from that has since been proven as such?

Considering what he has said in that interview, I tend to believe that Frank Drake is part of a cover-up.

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Morrison: "Something made you do that and you haven't told me what it is yet."

Firmage: "Let me tell you. Earth is being visited by extraterrestrial beings and probably has been for millennia. The evidence for the UFO phenomenon is overwhelming and people who reject it out of hand have not done their homework."

Now, what have I said many times about skeptics not doing their homework? Saucer-shaped objects have been reported for centuries, including Japan in 1133, and his comments about ET visitation is what intelligence and military officials have been saying for years.

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Of course, some who have rejected the UFO stories have done lots of homework.

What have I said about skeptics not doing their homework properly when they do?

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