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#1    DfizzleShizzle

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 04:41 PM

I originally wrote this for a thread bdebating about whether psi is real, but I just wnated to clear something up...
This is so everyone knows that people who practice PSI, telekinesis, Telepathy, etc...Those people don't try to be super or anything...These are natural gifts thta everyone has........Just read below...Here it is...Have fun!







AtheistGod on Feb 11 2008, 09:39 PM, said:

The only way to prove something is to weigh in on the evidence.

Fact is there is no real tangible evidence for anyone to study to make a discovery... The argument goes beyond whether you believe it or not but rather what evidence is there to support such claims.

The claim of super powers dates back to early human history... Up until the 19th century or so 99% of the population globally believed such abilities existed, it has only been recently that many people  have drifted away from the idea that these powers exist as we progressed to where we are now. This tells me that the more we learn about energy and universal law etc the more unlikely these abilities being real become.



But we aren't calling these super powers! These "abilities" aren't super natural in any way shape or form....Everyone has them, they just have to know how to unlock them...I had pretty much no "ability" when I started this about a month ago...Yes, I had some premenitions, could see a few seconds into "the future"(More like seeing a 5 second image of what will happen in about another 5 seconds...lol) but still not much....I started studying this stuff, and my "abilities(hate callin em that!) have expanded greatly...I can now make psi balls, I can almost do AP...I am gettin close at TK, my telepathy has increased, and my preminition, and ability to see little glimpses of "the future" have grown to the point where it happens almost daily....I freak my friends out, by saying what they are gonna say about 2 seconds before they say it...It really scares them(Very funny, by the way,) I mean, some people might say I was a little more wired for it....But I think I'm just a normal kid, who was able to  see little glimpses of the natural "power" and was able to unlock it to a greater extent...We can all do that....


              None of us ever said this was supernatural, Things like this just get blown out of proportion...When somone says they think they have Elektrokinesis, people automatically assume the guy crazy, because thye think he means he can make lighting occur, or if someone says pyrokinesis, people think he means he can create fire, and then makie it into the shape of an animal, and make it dance and have complete control over it...(Sorry, bad example, had to though, I like dancing animals...=) lol)
When the fatc is, whatever "ability" we have, its not to as great of an extent as we think...With Electrokinesis, most people can't do it willing, with pyrokinesis, you may be able to burn a candle out with your mind, or make it lean from side to side, but thats it...With Telekinesis, people think we mean we cna move boulders and cars and tables and chairs, and Lions tigers and bears(Oh My!) with our minds...But the truth is that, with Telekinesis, being able to levitate a pencil or a pen(maybe something a little bigger) a few inches above the ground is considered being an expert....Some people(Very, Very few) can move bigger things...But if thye an then they usually lack the ability to move them from left to right because of friction, so they can only move them up and down very high....

But there....Just get it, that we're not super heroes! We're not trying to be! I know thta all the stupid Psychics at fairs, or at malls(Theres one at my mall anyways) Who have wierd dresses and beads and use crystal balls and tarrot crads and stuff, make you think this is all fake...But the true, natural version of this isn't...I mean, those people at fairs and malls, and the 900 numbers from like the 80's that cost you like like 3 dollars a minute, so you could call some weird tv psychic named Sytugacbuspolashiccabaibowbawawbabaoue, who just sits there rubbing her temples acting like shes seeing something, just to keep you on the line longer, might make you not belive, but they are usually fakes trying to make a fast buck...There are MANY "Professional" psychics who are genuine, alot of them....They help police and provide answers to people who don't know where else to go, and are very trusted...But they are just regualr people too...And if you aksed them how they got there "power" many of them will tell you anyone can do it...And it's not a power...

P.s=You people better like this, cause this took forever to type!

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 04:56 PM

Heartagram3200 on Feb 12 2008, 11:41 AM, said:

But we aren't calling these super powers! These "abilities" aren't super natural in any way shape or form....Everyone has them, they just have to know how to unlock them...


I dont have much time here but my only question is this. If these abilities are natural why are we not seeing these powers everywhere? Why are they not common to the point of boredom?

We see the result of our "natural abilities" all around us. Our abilities, our intelligence, our memory, our tool making, our imagination etc has given us the world around us as a whole. Every part of our abilities is evident in the world we have created. Why dont we see these powers?

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 04:57 PM

Because these "powers" are not ours. They belong to other people.


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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:02 PM

The problem is Heart, that there is no hard evidence of them. You are claiming them, but are not willing to prove them. This blind belief reminds me of old time religion.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:03 PM

Ok look, you know, when you get gut feelings, like you know something will happen...Or you know what someones gonna say, way before you could've guessed, or just events like that that defy the laws of chance....Those are small glimpses, of the "powers" people just don't recognize them...The true "powers" are unlocked, once you see those, and think, "that was wierd, maybe I should try to inhance that" And then you start working on them, more and more until it happens more often, more fully, to a greater extent...Etc....Read any book from your local library or soemthing on PSI, and thye will all say that this is natural...Ask any scientist, who studies "powers" like these,and he will admit it happens more than people think...It's just thta things like this happen all he imte, but we dismiss them as nothing out of the ordinary and think thye are nothing..After a while logic takes over, shutting off all chance of these things coming bakc again...Thats why teens usually have a higher rating at ths stuff...Because they still belive and haven't been told this isn't real...But if they don't keep with it for a long time, then they will eventually lose it to...

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:04 PM

Yes I am claiming them. You are also claiming that they don't exist. Its faith too.


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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:07 PM

Exactly, You guys would get so pissed, if we did what to you, what you do to us...If when you said, find evidence to prove this, we would sya, we will, but in the meantime, you find evidence to disprove us...Common logic isn't enough to disprove something...Unlike you though, we have many examples, that show that they do exist...Of course it isn't enough for you guys, but th ething is...You have NOTHING, to disprove us...So whats your next move? Trying to pass the buck back to us? What to do now skeptics?

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:10 PM

Electrokinesis is me on Feb 12 2008, 11:04 AM, said:

Yes I am claiming them. You are also claiming that they don't exist. Its faith too.

NO its not. I see there is no proof and make logical decision. You believe in something that you can't and won't prove. Thats faith. No different than believing in a supreme being.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:13 PM

Heartagram3200 on Feb 12 2008, 11:03 AM, said:

Ok look, you know, when you get gut feelings, like you know something will happen...Or you know what someones gonna say, way before you could've guessed, or just events like that that defy the laws of chance....Those are small glimpses, of the "powers" people just don't recognize them...The true "powers" are unlocked, once you see those, and think, "that was wierd, maybe I should try to inhance that" And then you start working on them, more and more until it happens more often, more fully, to a greater extent...Etc....Read any book from your local library or soemthing on PSI, and thye will all say that this is natural...Ask any scientist, who studies "powers" like these,and he will admit it happens more than people think---------Please give us a list of such scientists and have yourself tested.

...It's just thta things like this happen all he imte, but we dismiss them as nothing out of the ordinary and think thye are nothing..After a while logic takes over, shutting off all chance of these things coming bakc again...Thats why teens usually have a higher rating at ths stuff...Because they still belive and haven't been told this isn't real...  No. Teens still believe because they are fantasy prone. I bleived in vampires as a teenager. You will look back at this and feel foolish after you grow up.



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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:13 PM

Exactly, You guys would get so pissed, if we did what to you, what you do to us...If when you said, find evidence to prove this, we would sya, we will, but in the meantime, you find evidence to disprove us...Common logic isn't enough to disprove something...Unlike you though, we have many examples, that show that they do exist...Of course it isn't enough for you guys, but th ething is...You have NOTHING, to disprove us...So whats your next move? Trying to pass the buck back to us? What to do now skeptics?
I don't think you will see this. So i'm bringing it to the front.


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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:16 PM

Heartagram3200 on Feb 12 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

Exactly, You guys would get so pissed, if we did what to you, what you do to us...If when you said, find evidence to prove this, we would sya, we will, but in the meantime, you find evidence to disprove us...Common logic isn't enough to disprove something...Unlike you though, we have many examples, that show that they do exist...Of course it isn't enough for you guys, but th ething is...You have NOTHING, to disprove us...So whats your next move? Trying to pass the buck back to us? What to do now skeptics?

You show no evidence. You just talk a lot and you aren't using any logic.
You disprove yourselves and make yourself look quite foolish. Our next move, since you are scared to prove yourself, is to sit back and let you make yourself look silly.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:19 PM

Well, do you show evidence? of course not. But people have exprienced the paranormal. Not you of course but others have.

You don't seem to be sitting back yourself.


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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:22 PM

So me, fighting with all I got...I sitting back looking silly? I'm making perfect sense...You guys cnat tell me that I haven't given good examples and reasons for everything I belive in...

But the arguement psi is like religion, cause there is no proof...Lets see, The bible...Where'd that come from? It woulld be impossible for a bunch of guys to make up all the wisdom found in there....And since its so old, how could NAY regular human make thta stuff up bakc then? No one was that smart man,....The only explination is thta thye were learning from somebody, that what they are sayin in there is the truth...There are miracles happening EVERYDAY that proves god exist....And I know it's not my place to judge but, when I'm in hevan, I'll ask god if I can just visit all the skeptics from this thread who are dead burning right now...I'll be sure to bring a pitcher of water...

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:33 PM

Electrokinesis is me on Feb 12 2008, 11:19 AM, said:

Well, do you show evidence? of course not. But people have exprienced the paranormal. Not you of course but others have.

You don't seem to be sitting back yourself.

You really make no sense at all. I have nothing to prove. I am making no claims. Shouldn't you be studying?

I have experienced strange things myslef. Wooo. Doesn't mean I am a wizard with psi powers.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:39 PM

Heartagram3200 on Feb 12 2008, 11:22 AM, said:

So me, fighting with all I got...I sitting back looking silly? I'm making perfect sense...You guys cnat tell me that I haven't given good examples and reasons for everything I belive in...---YOU have given nothing but claims.

But the arguement psi is like religion, cause there is no proof...Lets see, The bible...Where'd that come from? Man wrote it. Nothing more.
It woulld be impossible for a bunch of guys to make up all the wisdom found in there....No it wouldn't. We are actually pretty smart.
And since its so old, how could NAY regular human make thta stuff up bakc then?Oh my god. LMAO.Its called stories, myths. Not truth.
No one was that smart man,....WRONG. You have a low opinion of mankind, especially since you think we have wizard powers.
The only explination is thta thye were learning from somebody, that what they are sayin in there is the truth...Thats , once again, your wishful thinking.
There are miracles happening EVERYDAY that proves god exist....NO there is not. Now it makes since. You need proof of nothing. You are willing to believe anything.
And I know it's not my place to judge but, when I'm in hevan,-Doesn't exist.
I'll ask god if I can just visit all the skeptics from this thread who are dead burning right now...I'll be sure to bring a pitcher of water...---I wouldn't to be in a heavean of a god that has a private torture chamber.



I like how you side step proving yourself. I wonder why? Because you can't.


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