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Dinosaurs and birds, theories and evidence


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#16    Xenojjin

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 05:12 AM

I actually find it interesting the bird was discovered in china ... perhaps their are more creatures in its line and they could have been around while the ancient chinese were still around ? Dates may be a problem , but if you look at chinese culture it is actually very possible that this could explain why dragons are often seen in chinese art / religious beliefs .  

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:43 PM

you will never find a fossil in a transitional form in the way creationists said will prove evolution: like a fish with legs

True absolutely true, but for interest here are some "fish" with legs (they aren't really fish, but still):

http://www.caudata.org/axolotl/


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Posted 12 February 2004 - 04:42 PM

Those are interesting animals.. thanks for sharing original.gif


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Posted 12 February 2004 - 08:54 PM

Fish with legs post in cryptozoology. Not exactly true legs, but very close.  


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Posted 12 February 2004 - 10:29 PM

i have said before, i think it is the segisaurs that became birds. i thought this up myself, i did not follow some body elses theory, if any one else agrees.


so, naveed, what are your ideas? some body as learned about evolution as you couldnt go without a theory. do you agree with the typical ideas (that would be raptors)?  


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Posted 13 February 2004 - 12:48 AM

Well I think that most likely it wasn't raptors and was an earlier species of therapod (that would be both and ancestor of archeaopteryx and raptors), since archeaopteryx appeared in the jurassic. I'm just not sure which one.  


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Posted 13 February 2004 - 01:02 AM

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I actually find it interesting the bird was discovered in china ... perhaps their are more creatures in its line and they could have been around while the ancient chinese were still around ? Dates may be a problem , but if you look at chinese culture it is actually very possible that this could explain why dragons are often seen in chinese art / religious beliefs .


I doubt anything survived that long, but most people think dragon stories arose from peolple finding dinosaur bones and assuming they must be giant monsters.  

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Posted 13 February 2004 - 04:16 AM

Also note that the gobi desert in China has been a large source for dinosaur bones.  


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Posted 16 February 2004 - 03:23 AM

Well its a pretty big area  tongue.gif  

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