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#1    Karlis

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 04:22 AM

Video -- Free Energy - No Fuel Magnetic Motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvB3PiPBozU&feature=email


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Relying on the attraction and repulsion of internal magnets, the Lutec 1000 operates continually on a pulse-like current 24 hours a day - producing 24 kilowatts of power - once it is kickstarted from a battery source.
  

Joesph Westley Newman of Scottsdale, Arizona, says that the attorney filing the patent application for the Lutec 1000, Griffith Hack, is violating international patent law when stating they have conducted an international search which has found no similar invention so far. Mr Newman publicized his claim on the web site of US radio program Sightings, adding that he applied for worldwide patent protection for the same type of technology in 1979, and had received it in some countries not including the U.S.A. He said his original technology was featured on U.S. Television networks as well as many radio talk shows, newspapers and magazines, and that his book The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman was being sold "extensively across Australia" more than 10 years prior to when Christie and Brits had even conceived their idea.



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Posted 17 March 2008 - 11:53 AM

Debunked in 2001, unless there is further news on this prodject ?

http://www.skeptics.com.au/spoon/2001winners.htm

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 09:38 PM

And yet no matter how many times things like this are debunked and now many times we reiterate that we understand electromagnetism... people will still fall for it.  Its terrible.


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Posted 18 March 2008 - 09:49 PM

Ok, let me try this once again:

The only way to obtain free energy is to steal it from your neighbor!

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:31 PM

I'm still trying to figure out a way to gently break the news to a couple of guys at work, they really believe this stuff.  huh.gif

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 01:02 AM

What is sad is that they are still operating but now they are just ripping off "sophisticated" investors (those with $2.5mill or more or $250k/year income). I suppose they're making themselves feel better by ripping off the already rich. The intelligent/experienced investors are no longer biting.



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Posted 19 March 2008 - 12:02 PM

ai_guardian on Mar 19 2008, 01:02 AM, said:

What is sad is that they are still operating but now they are just ripping off "sophisticated" investors (those with $2.5mill or more or $250k/year income). I suppose they're making themselves feel better by ripping off the already rich. The intelligent/experienced investors are no longer biting.


Its risk assesment - what is the cost that they could be right? How do you weigh that up? If you had money to burn, would you invest in this as the possible return (not just personally) would be unfathomable?

Of course, they can't be right, but like I said, money to burn....

Edited by Emma_Acid_88, 19 March 2008 - 12:02 PM.

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 12:25 PM


Still operating

http://www.lutec.com.au/

Now for you engineers out there
Download there video (the middle one at the top and tell me what you see and hear) and this is done with magnets.

If what I am seeing and hearing is correct, there is a very good chance they have achieved over-unity ?

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 12:33 PM

Emma_Acid_88 on Mar 19 2008, 07:02 AM, said:

Its risk assesment - what is the cost that they could be right? How do you weigh that up? If you had money to burn, would you invest in this as the possible return (not just personally) would be unfathomable?

Of course, they can't be right, but like I said, money to burn....


I have extra money to spend on stuff like this but I won't because some things are just no feasible like this magnetic motor which is clearly a scam.


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Posted 19 March 2008 - 12:42 PM

In the video they say the product will be ready in March of 2008, on the website they have this banner

text........."Product release date postponed indefinitely due to possible Transfer of Technology negotiations".

Is that called taking the money and running with it? tongue.gif

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 12:48 PM

Shaftsbury on Mar 19 2008, 12:42 PM, said:

"Product release date postponed indefinitely due to possible Transfer of Technology negotiations".


What could this possibly mean ?

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 01:25 PM

Dan-Dare on Mar 19 2008, 02:48 PM, said:

What could this possibly mean ?

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 08:49 PM

I found a report by some skeptics society... their "over unity" calculations were faulty.  Using the data given by these guys in one of their reports, and CORRECTLY calculating the energy, they came up with a 33% efficiency - that is, it only puts out one third of the power you put into it.

The people who made this thing suffer from the misapprehension that a magnet holding up a heavy weight is producing energy - if its not moving anything and the weight is standing still, no energy is being expended.


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Posted 19 March 2008 - 10:31 PM

QUOTE (Emma_Acid_88)
Its risk assesment - what is the cost that they could be right? How do you weigh that up? If you had money to burn, would you invest in this as the possible return (not just personally) would be unfathomable?

Of course, they can't be right, but like I said, money to burn....

They should hire a good risk assessor if they have the money to burn wink2.gif I do agree with you though, investment is all about supporting (financially) someone else's idea and there is always an element of risk involved. That's why it pays to do some research. Investors today should have no excuse (for their stupidity) if they invest in an "over unity" device, imo.

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"Product release date postponed indefinitely due to possible Transfer of Technology negotiations".



What could this possibly mean ?
As questionmark said, they're outta here. They've run out of excuses for not delivering. Similar thing has happened to Orbo from Steorn (linky). A public display of their technology in July of last year went horribly wrong - so it's been postponed indefinitely. rolleyes.gif

Yep Torgo, I've read those reports. All it takes is misinterpretation of data and the setup and there you have it, lutec 1000. I believe though that the inventors now know that they were wrong all along but still they persist with they scam.

Edited by ai_guardian, 19 March 2008 - 10:39 PM.

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 11:22 PM

of course over unity is possible, deasel lokomotive is the proof, deasel engine inside coupled with a generator makes 5x less power than traction motors, so where does the extra power comes from???
sonic boiler, 20x overunity, proven, mesured, and replicated, in theory it is imposible, but theory is wrong, it exicts.

as for magnet motor, i,m sure it is very posible, just not by someone, who keep quoting 2lot, and keeps saying it is imposible, those will never acheve much.

magnets attract and repel, it isn,t debatable, it is a fact, so there is internal energy that does the work, it can be utilized, if not by itself, than in combination with something else, gravity or electricity, nay sayers never brought up anything usefull, just negativity.

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