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#1    Never Say Die

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 07:53 PM

This actually happened a couple of months ago, but I'm not positive as to what happened, so I thought I'd ask everyone here.

It happened just before I went to bed, I heard my grandparents saying something about a 'fire', so I went and looked out a window. On the bank opposite our house, someone had lit a fire (there was another one further down the road, but I couldn't see it). Anyway, the fire was quite big, and it was near some trees (basically it goes loads of trees, then an area of grass, then loads of tree's again all the way down the road)

Well, the fire was just reaching the bottom of the leaves of the tree's, I didn't really want them to go on fire, since it'd probably spread like crazy. I'd been practising pyrokinetics for about a week (and I got absolutley nowhere), but I thought I might as well try to suppress the fire. So I just stared at it, keeping my mind calm and imagined it becoming smaller. It seemed to go smaller, so it wasn't reaching the leaves anymore. I stayed like that for about 5 minutes or so until the fire brigade arrived, then I just stopped concentrating, the fire rose again, then the firemen put it out. Afterwards I was really tired and slightly dizzy.

I'm not saying I managed to control or affect the fire in anyway, it just seemed like I did. So, anyone got an explanation?


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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:28 PM

Fires flare up and die down of their own accord all the time.  It's not an exact science.  It depends on what is burning, wind and other weather conditions, humidity.

You saw something completely normal and you made your own connection to the events but purely in your own imagination.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:47 PM

yes, I realize that, I just thought it was a bit coincidental that the fire died down slightly when I started concentrating on it, and flared up when I stopped.


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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:54 PM

If there were no coincidences in life then that would be weird.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 09:18 PM

But what fun is it discounting every experience that could possibily be a psychic experience?

"A believer is a songless bird in a cage, a freethinker is an eagle parting the clouds with tireless wings." -Robert G. Ingersoll

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 09:27 PM

Papaver on Apr 12 2008, 04:54 PM, said:

If there were no coincidences in life then that would be weird.

I will have to agree with that.

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Heartagram3200 Posted Today, 05:18 PM
But what fun is it discounting every experience that could possibily be a psychic experience?

I don't know Heart. I suppose it's alright to have a good imagination now and then. But, when it comes
to serious situations as the above mentioned, one cannot rule out the most likely reasons as to what
happened before some supernatural reason.

It is cool to see super hero's come around and put out fires with supernatural abilities though.
But, thats in comic books and movies.



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Posted 12 April 2008 - 09:50 PM

Heartagram3200 on Apr 12 2008, 10:18 PM, said:

But what fun is it discounting every experience that could possibily be a psychic experience?


It isn't fun.  It's quite boring.  I'd rather these powers were real but it has to be the real deal to mean anything and that requires substantial evidence.  Nothing so far cuts the mustard.

That's why I was dissapointed with your tests.  I thought I'd found somebody that might turn out to be real.  That's why I took such an interest in your claims.  Anyway, that's off topic...


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Posted 13 April 2008 - 12:49 AM

If life was exactly like what everyone thought it was, that would be pretty boring...

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Posted 13 April 2008 - 01:43 AM

So anyway, neversaydie, this was two months ago you say. This was the first fire that seemed like you controlled it, if I understand your report.

Have you tried anything fiery since then?

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Posted 13 April 2008 - 03:49 AM

Maybe you can light a candle and try again.


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Posted 13 April 2008 - 12:04 PM

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Maybe you can light a candle and try again.

Yes, that would be an idea.

But my question was whether the OP had already done so. If yes, then what happened, and if not, then why not, does he think?

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Posted 13 April 2008 - 06:37 PM

Actually, I haven't tried anything since, I'll try doing something like that soon.


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 12:05 PM

Heartagram3200 on Apr 13 2008, 10:49 AM, said:

If life was exactly like what everyone thought it was, that would be pretty boring...


No life is an incredibly amazing world of natrual laws and phenomenon... the biology behind living creatures is literaly awe inspiringly beautiful. The physics behind the motion of the cosmos is awesome in it's preciceness and staggering scales. Even the simplest of inanimate objects has experienced incredible natural laws to become what it is today... do you know what all matter other than Hydrogen was created within stars and scattered across the universe after the stars ended thier life with a supernova of mind blowing energies?

I guess not since you think that doors closeing is spirits instead of just the wind....

The world in an amazing place WITHOUT childish fantasies of the supernatural... your laziness to expand your education isn't a reason to constantly entertain thoughts of the paranormal....

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 12:15 PM

I doubt there is a correlation between education and belief in the paranormal or the spiritual. Many educated people find belief in these matters. Maybe not as much as psi phenomena but the paranormal and the spiritual go beyond that.


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 12:25 PM

Clovis on Apr 15 2008, 10:15 PM, said:

I doubt there is a correlation between education and belief in the paranormal or the spiritual. Many educated people find belief in these matters. Maybe not as much as psi phenomena but the paranormal and the spiritual go beyond that.


The studies tell otherwise... the more educated a person is the less they are likely to beleive in a faith based / lack of evidence phenomenon..

Thats not the point i was making... Heart seems to be incredibly ignorant of the incredible and overwhelming complexity / beauty of the natural world... if he took some time to EDUCATE (my point) himself in the world of rational enquiry and FACTS of the world (supportable with verifyable and reproducable evidence) then he would have a very different view of the netural world.

Life without the paranormal is NOT boring... it's AMAZINGLY beautiful and exciting... you just have to educate yourself instead of being satisfied with unsupported fantasies..

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