In popular culture, especially in the United States, the Devil's Sea is widely believed to be, together with the Bermuda Triangle, an area where ships and planes are said to disappear under mysterious circumstances. The Japanese, on the other hand, do not consider the Devil's Sea to be more mysterious or dangerous than other coastal waters of Japan.
Contrary to several claims, neither the Devil's Sea nor the Bermuda Triangle is located on the agonic line, where the magnetic north equals the geographic north. The magnetic declination in this area is about 6°.
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Posted 05 May 2008 - 11:25 PM
lil gremlin on May 5 2008, 04:01 PM, said:
apparently Shakespeare was heavily involved in the 'London Virginia Company.' you know, a trading company...plantations, slaves, commodities etc. Just think 'the bad guys in Pirates of the Carribean' and your'e on the right tracks...
I'm not aware of /any/ active involvement by Shakespeare with the Virginia Company -- the closet link I know of is that the Shakespeare's patron (and possible lover) Henry Wriothesley, 2nd Earl of Southampton was an investor in the company. Shakespeare wasn't a particularly rich man, and the only record we have of Shakespeare actually investing in in his own Company.
I don't doubt he had heard of the wreck of the Sea-Venture, but sea wrecks are a long-standing part of his work, from the beginning of his career (and an inheritance of Greek and Roman plays). Furthermore, he would likely have been just as aware of the failures of the Roanoke colonies, especially the 1585 one.
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 04:59 PM
lil gremlin on May 5 2008, 04:01 PM, said:
does the subtext of The Tempest include such themes that would have relevance to this....? Yes.
Is Prospero the 'cause' of the Bermuda triangle? .... No.....did he cause the 'Tempest' ? No.
The area is known for its storms, but this alone is not justification for 'the Tempest' nor is it an attempt at explaining a 'bermuda triangle' phenomenon.
But, as we all know, Shakespeare based "The Tempest" on "Forbidden Planet," where Robbie the Robot and Dr. Morbius (along with a nubile skinnydipping daughter) lived and worked after the expedition that brought them there died of mysterious causes.
Edited by Harte, 06 May 2008 - 08:51 PM.
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Bermuda Triangle mystery solved? It's a load of gas
By Jason Dowling October 23, 2003
Massive gas bubbles rising from the sea floor may be capable of sinking ships and could explain the disappearance of a vessel in a North Sea "Bermuda Triangle", Melbourne researchers have concluded.
In a report published in the September issue of the American Journal of Physics, Monash University's Professor Joseph Monaghan and honours student David May said that a trawler discovered resting in a large methane crater off the east coast of Scotland may have been sunk by a huge gas bubble. The possibly lethal gas bubbles are created by underwater deposits of methane that have built up over thousands of years.
"It's long been known that there are pockets of methane gas, known as methane gas hydrates, beneath the ocean floor that could erupt if they're disturbed or if their internal pressure becomes too large," Professor Monaghan said.
The massive gas bubbles had the potential to cause aircraft to crash, Mr May said yesterday. "In the Bermuda Triangle, methane gas is known to be present and the release of that gas could cause not only boats to sink, as shown in our study, but also aeroplanes to crash," he said. The gas could cause an explosion if it came in contact with the hot engine of a plane.
Oil-drilling platforms are aware of the dangers of ocean floor gas bubbles and have safety procedures to follow if they hit a methane pocket. But the discovery of the fishing trawler in the North Sea suggests that not all vessels were as well prepared. Sonar surveys of the ocean floor 150 kilometres east of Scotland have revealed high levels of methane and gas eruption sites. At a site known as the Witch's Hole, a documentary film crew in 2000 discovered a wreck resting in the centre of an underwater crater, likely caused by a huge methane gas release. The wreck was a 22-metre, steel-hulled fishing trawler, built between 1890 and 1930. The trawler was relatively undamaged and was horizontal on the sea bed.
From laboratory experiments, the Monash University researchers were able to conclude that large gas bubbles, theoretically, had the ability to sink ships. "It is quite possible that the trawler languishing in Witch's Hole was sunk by a bubble with a radius equal to or bigger than the trawler's hull," Professor Monaghan said.
Mr May said they had made a small perspex boat and conducted a number of experiments examining how the size of the bubble related to the size and position of the boat.
They found that if a ship was directly above a gas bubble it was relatively safe, but a vessel on the edge or in the trough of a bubble may be swamped.
"The sinking occurs because a mound of water is raised above the region where the bubble reaches the surface," Professor Monaghan said.
"The flow from the mound creates a deep trough on each side of the mound, and the flow from the mound carries the boat into the trough."
Then you have the Glomar Challenger drilling platform hitting a Methane Hydrate pocket in 1981 and almost sinking as a result. Total loss of buoyancy in but a few minutes
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 07:55 PM
NeoGenesis on May 6 2008, 08:49 PM, said:
Do you have a better statement on the events that have taken place at the Bermuda-triangle.
Well flight 19, which is the start of the Bermuda triangle mystery, was pilot error. The flight leader was known to have made many navigational errors before and his refusal to believe his equipment and his incompetence cost him and his flight group their lives. The only reason the it was considered mysterious was due to complaints by Lt Charles Carroll Taylor's (who had ditched his plane through being lost twice before) mother which the Navy decided to acknowledge to help her in a sad time for her (and probably to stop her moaning). Nothing else unusual about it. The number of vessels disappearing there is normal for a coastal region.
I suggest picking up a copy of Larry Kusche's Bermuda Triangle Mystery--Solved for a skeptical point of view. Kusche delved into newpaper articles, Lloyd's of London shipping reports, and even US Navy records to determine the fates of ships and planes.