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#1    Enigma wrapped in a puzzle

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 08:10 PM

This is an excellent video and anyone who tries to refute this is going to have a very hard time.

http://www.911weknow.com/index.php?option=...1&Itemid=31

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 09:28 PM

Enigma wrapped in a puzzle on Jun 19 2008, 04:10 PM, said:

This is an excellent video and anyone who tries to refute this is going to have a very hard time.

http://www.911weknow.com/index.php?option=...1&Itemid=31




I think those who have already done so might be able to argue with you...


This film is a montage of uneducated people speaking to things they know absolutely nothing about.



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Posted 19 June 2008 - 09:48 PM

MID on Jun 19 2008, 09:28 PM, said:

I think those who have already done so might be able to argue with you...


This film is a montage of uneducated people speaking to things they know absolutely nothing about.



This post should be removed!

You did not even watch the clip, if you posted this.  They have interviews with engineers, demo specialists, workers who were in the basement of the towers before they collapsed and many more.  This movie illustrates exactly how these building were brought down.  

Watch the movie before you post again.  This movie is an hour and a half long and you did not even have time to watch it yet.
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Posted 19 June 2008 - 09:55 PM

Lol, hour and a half? No ty.

Theres alot of 9/11 threads, try reading around and seeing what the other side has to offer first.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:07 PM

InHuman on Jun 19 2008, 09:55 PM, said:

Lol, hour and a half? No ty.

Theres alot of 9/11 threads, try reading around and seeing what the other side has to offer first.



I have


I have followed the 9/11 stuff on this forum for a long time, this movie is very good.  Anyone who has the time to watch it should do so.  I have watched many others and this one does the best job imo.
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Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:09 PM

zeitgeist is good too

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:21 PM

Open your mind on Jun 19 2008, 10:09 PM, said:

zeitgeist is good too



I watched it and yes it was good.  This goes further into detail.
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Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:54 PM

Enigma wrapped in a puzzle on Jun 19 2008, 05:48 PM, said:

This post should be removed!

You did not even watch the clip, if you posted this.  They have interviews with engineers, demo specialists, workers who were in the basement of the towers before they collapsed and many more.  This movie illustrates exactly how these building were brought down.  

Watch the movie before you post again.  This movie is an hour and a half long and you did not even have time to watch it yet.




Baloney..

It's old news.
Seen it all!

There's no substantiation of anyone's credentials included here.

The WTC collapse is well understood by actual engineers who's business it is to understand such things.


It's crap.





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Posted 19 June 2008 - 11:43 PM

MID on Jun 19 2008, 10:54 PM, said:

Baloney..

It's old news.
Seen it all!

There's no substantiation of anyone's credentials included here.

The WTC collapse is well understood by actual engineers who's business it is to understand such things.


It's crap.


LOL i find it funny that any one with half a brain could think a jet fuel fire melted steel... its just  stupid. even in a controlled burn jet fuel cant melt steel and I knew that 5 years before 9/11
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 12:03 AM

MID on Jun 19 2008, 10:54 PM, said:

Baloney..

It's old news.
Seen it all!

There's no substantiation of anyone's credentials included here.

The WTC collapse is well understood by actual engineers who's business it is to understand such things.


It's crap.



Sorry MID but this subject YOU have no idea what your talking about.  Those towers did not come down by jet fuel and flames.  Again I say you need to watch the clip to post in this thread.  This thread is about that clip so please do not comment on it again until you have seen it.
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 12:20 AM

bigdog112 on Jun 19 2008, 03:43 PM, said:

LOL i find it funny that any one with half a brain could think a jet fuel fire melted steel... its just  stupid. even in a controlled burn jet fuel cant melt steel and I knew that 5 years before 9/11


umm, why would it have to melt the steel in order to collapse? if you take away a percentage of the strength by heating the steel it would not be able to hold the weight. common sense man, but for the sake of arguement lets just say, it didnt melt the steel but instead warped the steel, or made it eaiser to bend.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 01:50 AM

Enigma wrapped in a puzzle on Jun 19 2008, 08:03 PM, said:

Sorry MID but this subject YOU have no idea what your talking about.  Those towers did not come down by jet fuel and flames.  Again I say you need to watch the clip to post in this thread.  This thread is about that clip so please do not comment on it again until you have seen it.


Unlike a lot of CTers 'round here -- hell, unlike /me/ -- I've never once seen MID talk when he has no idea what he's talking about. Perhaps if you'd like to bring up specific points with him, you'd find that out.

I might also add that (by virtue of you posting and not being a small, greasy spot) you weren't /at/ the WTC when they fell to say definitively whether or not they came down by the action of jet-fueled fire, so you might want to be a little more circumspect in how you phrase things. Especially if you want to pursue a discussion with MID.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 01:57 AM

a 20 hour inferno vs 3 hours of "smoke".

I don't think so. They talk about the B25 Empire State Building crash. They talk about a slow flying 707 crash. They don't mention a near 500mph impact and serious fire. There was serious, spreading fire and significant impact damage to floors, core and exterior steel. Any "comparisons" are invalid, taking all the factors into account.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 05:00 AM

hydro on Jun 19 2008, 07:20 PM, said:

umm, why would it have to melt the steel in order to collapse? if you take away a percentage of the strength by heating the steel it would not be able to hold the weight. common sense man, but for the sake of arguement lets just say, it didnt melt the steel but instead warped the steel, or made it eaiser to bend.

common sense is knowing that even if the steel was only weakened that there is still no way on earth that the towers would have collapsed at the speed of free fall-- never mind that there was molten steel in the sub basements and the videos show clear evidence of squibs and it took 6 weeks to cool
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 05:54 AM

I still find it amazing that people who claim to have looked at 9/11 in detail still talk about melted steel, etc. People talk about common sense; well, sense isn't so common.




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