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#31    man_in_mudboots

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Posted 04 March 2004 - 01:43 PM

mr spartan, learn more about evolution or you will never be able to argue against it. meanwhile, lets get back on topic, on to other intelligent species and off evolution vs special creation. moderator please dont lock this thread.


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Posted 04 March 2004 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (Spartan @ Mar 3 2004, 06:05 PM)
giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe giraffe

I've never heard someone go on and on about a giraffe for so long without actually knowing what they were talking about.

A giraffe has evolved a long neck to eat leaves at the top of trees because:

1: Leaves at the top are more nutricious as they are more exposed to sunlight where they can photosynthesise better.

2: Every other plant-chomping veggie lover in the jungle is munching away on the ground.

3: Giraffes' eat leaves which are not only out of reach, other animals can't digest them either.

4: and most importantly, a giraffe would look bloody silly with a short neck.

Hope that clears up some of the giraffe evolution related confusion

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Posted 04 March 2004 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (thebarman @ Mar 4 2004, 01:39 PM)
4: and most importantly, a giraffe would look bloody silly with a short neck.

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 04:12 AM

As I've said before, I'll say it again.

I think some people are having mixed ideas on what they think evolution is. Evolution is when a creature is born with a mutation that helps it survive better than it's counterparts in it's environment. Eventually that creature will mate and pass on that mutation while the others that don't have that mutation die at a faster pace, eventually resulting in that all of them have that mutation. It's not when something is used or not used. Take the Giraffe for example. The Giraffe doesn't have a long neck because it's ancestors kept strecthing their necks to get to the leaves on a tree, and eventually their necks just got longer. It doesn't work that way. What really happened was that at some point one of them was born with an abnormally long neck compared to the others. TThis means that it could more easily reach food on trees the others could not, meaning that this mutant survived easier than its counterparts. This mutant would breed and it's child would have that neck too. Eventually through breeding they all have this mutation.

Thank you and I hope that clears thing up a little.

Anyway, evoltuion is not the point of this thread. The point is other intelligent species than our own. Such as dolphins, whales, neanderthals, etc.

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 04:18 AM

  in my first post i tryed to answer the question rolleyes.gif
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 04:51 AM

QUOTE (man_in_mudboots @ Mar 2 2004, 10:32 PM)
a question i have always wondered on is this: were the neanderthals able to see pictures and interpret them as what the picture was supposed to represent. animals watching a TV screen are unable to interpret a flat picture of, say, a face, as a face - they only see a colored and shaded TV screen. hey, stricahr, a good topic would be what separates humans form animals. i think ill take care of that.

Actually I have found that animals can recognize shapes on a tv screen. One time one of the Benji movies was on TV and one of our dogs kept walking around the tv trying to figure out how to play with the dog on it. She also kept barking at it. So I think at least some animals can interpret that. As far as neanderthals, they might not have been able to, but I think they would because they probably pondered why they saw themselves in water reflections.  


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Posted 05 March 2004 - 05:41 AM

The whole giraffe thing gave me an idea...it'd look ridiculous if the grew necks faster then 3 cm or so a year. Hehe I just learned how to make animations... whistling2.gif  

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 06:56 AM

Neanderthals 'mated with modern humans'


A hybrid skeleton showing features of both Neanderthal and early modern humans has been discovered, challenging the theory that our ancestors drove Neanderthals to extinction.
The skeleton of a young boy was found in Portugal.

Scientists say it shows for the first time that Neanderthals, who became extinct tens of thousands of years ago, mated with early members of our own species.

The scientists believe that the offspring of the interbreeding could be ancestors of modern man.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/323657.stm


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Posted 05 March 2004 - 01:37 PM

I don't want to hear that negative talk in my thread Spartan. I'm sure noone thinks you are stupid and we do value your opinion just as much as anyone else's. If you hadn't posted then this thread would not still be posted on.

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE (strichar @ Mar 5 2004, 12:37 PM)
I don't want to hear that negative talk in my thread Spartan. I'm sure no one thinks you are stupid and we do value your opinion just as much as anyone else's. If you hadn't posted then this thread would not still be posted on.

yeah, you just need to learn a little about the enemies strategies before trying to engage them in battle. and mr stricahr is right, you gave this thread its growing spurt.


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Posted 05 March 2004 - 04:35 PM

very interesting topic, it really makes you think (with your superior brain)!

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 04:40 PM

QUOTE (man_in_mudboots @ Mar 5 2004, 03:24 PM)
you gave this thread its growing spurt.

What are you all on about,
leave me alone
and whats wrong with my theory?
i dont talk about JC ,and i still cop it
are you the type of peole who were"Jesus is a c..." shirts or something
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 05:23 PM

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What are you all on about,
leave me alone
and whats wrong with my theory?
i dont talk about JC ,and i still cop it
are you the type of peole who were"Jesus is a c..." shirts or something
if you like darwin so much
go buy a baboon 



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#44    man_in_mudboots

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (Spartan @ Mar 5 2004, 03:40 PM)
QUOTE (man_in_mudboots @ Mar 5 2004, 03:24 PM)
you gave this thread its growing spurt.

What are you all on about,
leave me alone
and whats wrong with my theory?
i dont talk about JC ,and i still cop it
are you the type of peole who were"Jesus is a c..." shirts or something
if you like darwin so much
go buy a baboon devil.gif

as a matter of fact, no, im a very devout and pious catholic. if i saw anybody wearing a 'jesus is a crap' shirt, i would do mmy absolute best to beat the living hell out of them. youll find most of the people here are atheists or agnostics. i suggest getting used to it.
i checked the pet store and there are no baboons for sale.
and how did you reach the conclusion that i was an atheistic jesus hater wearing a 'jesus is a crap' shirt from my quote saying that you gave this thread a growing spurt?


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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Spartan @ Mar 5 2004, 10:40 AM)
QUOTE (man_in_mudboots @ Mar 5 2004, 03:24 PM)
you gave this thread its growing spurt.

What are you all on about,
leave me alone
and whats wrong with my theory?
i dont talk about JC ,and i still cop it
are you the type of peole who were"Jesus is a c..." shirts or something
if you like darwin so much
go buy a baboon devil.gif

What the crap?   huh.gif

Calm down, dude.  blink.gif  





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