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#1    The Man

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Posted 02 March 2004 - 05:56 AM

Holy crap come on, people take a look in the mirror. Ive left this forum for about 2 months now, and your still debating on the same crap. Where does this Antichrist bologney come from, but a bunch of undereducated, lowlifes that have nothing better to do with their time than, try to figure the world out.
It literally sickens me to the point of vomiting. When  reading these so called Who is the Antichrist crap I tend to get sleepy.

Ever since man has founded Science, and Religion their have always been Yin Yang, Good Evil, if people spent more time helping themselves, than actually helping the world, then the world would actually be a much more safer, cleaner, loving, and cheerful place to live in, but No you have to have these bungholes who try to figure out and pin point out who the Bad Guys are.

I myself can think of 25 people were supposed to be the Antichrist, which all of them are, or were supposed to have 666= out in their name, along with many other similarites of the Antichrist. Lets list them shall we.

1. Prince Charles
2. Prince William
3. Prince Harry
4. George Bush  Sr.
5. George Bush Jr.
6. Bill Clinton
7. President  Vladimir Putin of Russia
8. Osama Bin Ladin
9. Saddam Hussein
10. Bill Gates
11. Charles Manson
12. Marilyn Manson
13. Gen. Colin Powell
14. Gene Simmons of Kiss
15. Al Gore
16. Henry Kissinger
17. David Hasselhoff (Yeah No s-hit)
18. Keanu Reeves
19. Pope John Paul
20. Kim Jong 2 (Dictator of North Korea)
21. Ozzy Osbourne
22. Art Bell
23. Vince McMahon ( Of the WWE )
24. Arnold Schwarzenegger
25. The DNA from the Shroud of turin if cloned

As for possible past Antichrists I can name 15.

1.Vlad The Impaler (Prince Dracula)
2. Nero ( Of Rome )
3. Ghengis Kahn
4. Nimrod of babylon
5. Julius Caeser
6. Judas Iscariot
7. Alexander The Great
8. Napoleon Bonaparte
9. Adolf Hitler
10. Stalin
11. Pharaoh Kufu
12. Anton Lavey
13. Aleister Crowley
14. Pontius Pilot
15. King Arthur

So first off wheres the proof, the Hardcore Scientific Evidence, 2nd why all the assumptions, 3rd why so many different people, and once again wheres the proof? Lets look at the proof and claims to back them up, first off Magikman already touched up on your barcode and letter number theories, so I won't get into that.

So I guess we have Nostradamus who writes his Quatrains so that no one can understand them they were all written in Latin, French, Greek and many other languages which were made to  rhyme, he switched the lettering to make metaphores he was not a prophet but only a poet.
No he did not predict the attack on the Trade Towers, or the Coming of Hitler. Does Hister sound like Hitler yes it does, but is it one in the same no its not. Thats like me making a prophecy saying that Ike Tizon will become Boxings next World Heavyweight Champion, and just because Mike Tyson becomes champion, and sounds like Ike Tizon that must mean I just predicted the future. When I meant That Ike Tizon would become the champion. It would be other people putting words in my mouth that I did not say. It's the same thing with Hitler and Hister.
It can be safe to say that these were also not the only Quatrains the he got wrong, as a matter of fact he's been wrong 96% of the time, only a few quatraines even came close to actual prophecies, if you want to call them that, because they can only be interpreted like prophecies, by the individual.
Ill go ahead, and write a quick quatrain of my own to show you what I mean.

Antlers- pierce thy nations be destroyed, venom will ruin our many waters
The ladies must be enjoyed, because violet is their color,
He would be the lover, that will bring death to thy daughters
Hercules, throws a party, Byob.

Now some actual Quatrains by Nostradamus

When the lamp, burning with an inextinguishable fire
In the path of the hollow mountains,
It will be seized and plunged into the
Nimes the atire, Toulouse perish in water, the market to collapse


Earth-shaking fire from the center of the Earth
From the sky will come a great King of Terror
It will be seized, and plunged into the Vat
So that on the left hand there will be great affliction


Am I now a prophet? What about my predictions that I sent to most of you about The year 2004 come on you didn't buy into that crap did you? Hey wait a minute The Patriots did win the Superbowl, and the Twin Towers are supposed to be in the process of being rebuilt this year.
I must having prophetic, or psychic abilities. No I don't have any of these abilities, and those of you who believed my 2004 predictions are very gullible, just as those of you who believe in Nostradamus.

Now lets take a look at the Bible code, ok now this is where it gets tough. So we have a so called first supercomputer supposedly written by space aliens in which we now call the bible, but then again when you have professionals who also took Moby Dick and turned it into the bible code written supposedly by space aliens, then you no longer have a case now do you?

Look The real God is (good and evil in itself), there is no satan there is no Antichrist, only stupid Doomsayers who try to strike fear into the world. Heres a good one, TRY AND ANSWER THIS.

God is perfect, therefore a perfect being, would have complete innocence to be perfect is to be innocent, to be innocent is be be without knowing right or wrong. We as human beings are essentially perfect through Gods eyes no matter what good or bad we do because we are created by someone of a complete wholeness, we only see bad through our eyes God doesn't see the bad. Because we are essentially perfect through his perfection.
Everything you have been taught about Antichrists, Hell, Satan its all a lie, it's only to confuse you through fear and manipulation, to persuae you into believing that good triumps over evil.
What is EVIL? What is GOOD? God is complete perfection, free of sin, he is innocent so he does not know what Good and Evil are, just as a baby is innocent and perfect. Good and Evil are images that people like you and I create to control people. The world believes they can see the difference between light and dark, but yet the world can't see in the light of the dark, Yet it is possible to make light from the dark, or else we would be blind. We distinguish the two when they are actually one in the same, you really don't see light or dark, instead you just see,  but people like to categorize things. God doesn't categorize he see's all the same. You would figure that after a Hundred Thousand years of evolution, 10 thousand years of civilizing, a cosmic key ( God ), and a pair of Nike tennis shoes right in front of you, that you would at least be able to open the door, but yet we can't find our way off the couch.

Doomsayers, Christians, Satanist, Evangelist, Catholics, Wiccans, Scientist, and Alien Activists, Open up your eyes for a change and stop stereotyping each other.

Hey I got one maybe the Antichrist is

1. Jeffery Dahmer
2. John Wayne Gacy
3. Richard Ramerize
4. Ted Bundy ( Wait he's not with us no more)
5.  Al Bundy
6  Fred Durst
7. Howard Stern
8. Paris Hilton
9. Mel Gibson
10. Wes Craven
11. Stephen King
12. Suge Knight
13. Simon off American Idol
14. Tiger Woods

See ya around.



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Posted 02 March 2004 - 06:09 AM

Personally I never beleived in Nostradamus. I never thought that anyhting could be distinguished from his quatraines. I agree with you, I think it is just that it is a subject everyone has something say about. Sh*&, I even at one point was contemplating if I would ever be considered the anti-christ. You never really hear that some unkown person is the anti-christ, only famous people. Yes a lot of people throughout history have done awful things, but those are all part our nature, you have poeple. No anti-christs, no messiahs. Just people. I think maybe one of the reasons people het so into subjects like these is out of boredome from the daily grind. They are waiting, hoping for some world changing event that will release them from the mundane lives they have. They all want their chance to do something. Anyway I'm going to stop before I really start ranting and not making any sense.

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Posted 02 March 2004 - 07:49 AM

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13. Simon off American Idol


IT ALL MAKES SENSE!


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Posted 02 March 2004 - 08:17 AM

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Uh...

Ok...

the shroud thing was something that da vinci did... or atleast strongly speculated.  Since carbon dating of the shroud itself dates it to his century.

anyways...

Wow man.. just..wow...



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Posted 02 March 2004 - 08:28 AM

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13. Simon off American Idol




IT ALL MAKES SENSE!




Not Simon, William Hung tongue.gif

He's killing the world with his terrible voice

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Posted 02 March 2004 - 09:45 AM

Vince McMahon would be a good one. I can hear Jim Ross now. "OH MY GOD!!! HE JUST HIT NORTH AMERICA WITH THE STEEL CHAIR OF DOOM!!! SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH!!"


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Posted 02 March 2004 - 10:02 AM




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Holy crap come on, people take a look in the mirror. Ive left this forum for about 2 months now, and your still debating on the same crap.


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Posted 02 March 2004 - 06:14 PM

Who is the AntiChrist?? blink.gif  blink.gif

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Posted 02 March 2004 - 07:03 PM

As participants in this post we are all ANTI CHRISTS, or presently under the direct
divinations from the character of personality that would not allow us to be infected by the compulsion of any of a various institutions that exercise shame to attempt to discredit and/or control those who would oppose thier theorum. The bible being a very good and well written bed time story whose authors choose to propel a notion of social order by alloting it to a force that does not need to answer to the creation for the faults it has created! Its the perfect excuse, or way to avoid responsibility. This is why the subscribers to such notions rely on a savor to save them from thier "sins". That they may not need to take responsibility for them!

For example: Institutions acting directly under or in cooperation continually propel the notion that marijuana may make persons depressed and may cause such persons to commit acts that they would not likely otherwise partake in, such as suicide. Yet in the Indianapolis Star, Page B1, March 2,2004 when discussing the recent case of a 19 girl who commited suicide while under the direct intervention of an Ely Lilly product study, the Deputy Coroner - an agent acting under the color of said institutions - specifically states " It would be too hard to prove that taking a 'drug' caused a person to take this other action" So it becomes quite obvious that when it suits thier agenda it is O.K., other wise one should feel ashamed of partaking in a natural plant that in and of itself specifically proves intentional design! And the actors of said institutions are freed from thier responsibility toward blaitant hypocrasy by the death of thier savor !Because had the girl been in a park indulging in a plant ( where she wold never have committed suicide anyways) the cororners report would be interpreted by this digest in saying she was depressed by the drug pot and killed herself. { Most importantly to her family I apologize for HAVING to use the direct story to make a point that needs to be made, though not for making } Even more ludicrous is how on page B6 of the same digest they show a State trooper admonishing himself in poise for having curtailed the efforts of these evil plant utilizers by having arrested two person with 900 " bricks" of a plant, who did very little to hide, or feel ashamed of thier vegetarian instincts!

So, those things being tenet, it cannot be in exact error if one wanted to label my portion of character ot trait that is fed up with being defimated, and used by condescending institutions to try and propel themselves as " heroes" at my expense. And if they choose to assign that character the label of ANTI CHRIST then so be it. It is only an accumulation of consonants and vowels in an attempt to once again make me feel ashamed or lesser, that they may be perceived as heroes without having to answer for thier violent and oppressive behaviors!
That said I do not subscribe to the application of pentagrams and the like as a direct vehicle to understand the universal purpose!

That said, anyone who says " that is life"is under the divination of thier CHRIST, Messiah ,or not responsible for my sins complex. Anyone who chooses to recognize thier responsibility for a world full of such dramatic condescention instead of letting a " savor"-or innocent man in the eyes of god-take the blame for them is an ANTI CHRIST, ANTI MOHAMMED, ANTI BUDDAH...etc!

Edited by AXIOMS, 03 March 2004 - 10:09 AM.


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Posted 02 March 2004 - 07:39 PM

Naa.. I'm more of the Anti-worryaboutthiskindastuff.

I've got other things to worry about... like... living.

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Posted 02 March 2004 - 08:58 PM

You know about the Shroud of Turin and Da Vinci....

I do not believe in carbon dating...there are just so many examples of it screwing up that I don't find it to be a reliable method to date anything!


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Posted 02 March 2004 - 09:32 PM

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Not Simon, William Hung 


Personally, I think Hung is an alien hybrid. Not only by his looks but by his social ineptitude.

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Posted 03 March 2004 - 04:57 PM

I think the more interesting debate is why it is so taboo to be shoveled any where near an association of any function any fool may deem as ANTI CHRIST ( or ANTI MOHAMMED, ANTI VISHNU,ANTI DAVID...you get the picture)without first having unified a globally symmetric bright line rule as to what a CHRIST/ANTI CHRIST cause effect relationship is measured against, and or as! This is not only propelled by the witch hunters. It is compelled by the witches too, for far too many draw thier identification and respond to thier social ecosystem by uytilizing the standards set by said ecosystem and therefore propel a loop. For example: A young boy grows up and recognizes the hyprocasy of any institutional theorum and then hence forth draws defense mechanism that the institution has alloted to be as the reason that the boy is not so institutional to begin with. Why is it that ANTI CHRIST's always draw pentagrams so that the institution may reference from its prejudiced catalog that the boy is evil because of a geometric symbol drawn from utilizing various combinations of straight lines! I was that young boy once! I was not the one who had continued to go to work and compel a system that aroused so many world wars in such short time. I was not the one attempting to re program them so that they may shine in my image..ect, yet I was evil for drawing a geometric shape that the institutions of society introduced me to in the first place. Then having recognized what was going on I fed into it for a while Now I come so far from that by this point that it is just humorous to me, so in need of mention.

( It's funny when people respond that " think its too much to worry about all this. I just want to live my life."As if I'm not! As if these points are not life! Not to be offensive, but in asking that you be as humble as I have when I ask you to contemplate whether its that you just want to " live your life" or that you just want to live a complacent life, wherein responsibility is again garnered from you by the support of any of a various institutions! I just want to live the right life. The one "GOD" intended for me. Not the one you, or your predecessors intend for me. The problem is that you keep stepping on my yeildlings so I am then forced to defend myself by uncompartmentalizing and bringing to light you're blataint and
entropic hypocrasy that you fail to see since you are so busy stepping on my yeilds in "living your life". Don't worry, I quadruple checked my own hypocrasies while I was planting those yeildlings. It was better conversation!)

Wait!...Where was I...owe yeah...Why is it so much more ANTI social to be associated as ANTI christ than it is to be labeled an ANTIgen which saves us from the pathogen. Or the ANTI lock brake, which saves us from an uncontrollable skid. Or the ANTI -atter which is supposed by interjection to be the next attainable plateau in answering why matter is.

Though I would have to add that the ever sexually addictive Frued and his apprentices would ask by what pessimism do you ask who the anti christ is?
Have you reservation that ye will be burned by the touch of the christ! Have faith, have optimism! LOL

Edited by AXIOMS, 04 March 2004 - 05:57 AM.


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Posted 03 March 2004 - 08:02 PM

  Hahaha i guess you dont know,hahaha
the anti-christ is not a person
but more;
the system
social system(example /no money no honey)(when i was young i thought it was no love no honey)anyway
All woman who follow trends and more
to Sin makes you a anti-christ
polititions hahah
most of mankind
money
and all the crimes

the list keeps going and we havent even got to the 1/3rd fallen angels
then ....blah blah blah
in the end if you cant see it,,YOU MUST BE A RICH PERSON,the rich never belive,,,and some poor.
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Posted 04 March 2004 - 05:53 AM

" Believe in what?" I breach.

Then offer at this point that all too many times We, including I throw out blanket discretions in our profiling techiques! That said, Please edit your own interpretations of my words with that confession !







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