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#1    Legendcop13

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 09:13 PM

I have noticed a lot of people comparing Lycans to werewolves. That is no comparison. They are two completely different creatures.

        Lycans are more wolf based. They can shift appearance when they want, night or day. They represent more of a large walking wolf with a mans posture, and of

course much more muscular than werewolves. The Lycan is a Transylvanian based creature. The evidence is strongly supported, but it is nothing similar to a

werewolf at all. The Lycan is also much smarter than a typical werewolf.

        Werewolves are actually of old English folklore. They started up in the Americas after the Spanish settled here. The werewolf transforms randomly on full

moons only. They represent more of witchcraft and curse, unlike the Lycan; which is said to be Religious practice. Werewolves resemble a man with a wolf-man like

posture and a wolfs' attitude and appearance.


         Lycans are also different in the way to kill them. To kill a Lycan, you must sever the spine from the body. It is ineffective to Silver substances.

         Werewolves must be killed with a Silver object to the head or heart. This will only rid the curse of shape shifting, and bring the victim back to consciousness.

Edited by Legendcop13, 09 July 2008 - 09:16 PM.

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 09:28 PM

Before the movie 'Underworld', I'd never heard the term 'Lycan' used in connection with werewolves.

Thanks for painting me a clearer picture.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:45 AM

Legendcop13 on Jul 9 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

I have noticed a lot of people comparing Lycans to werewolves. That is no comparison. They are two completely different creatures.

        Lycans are more wolf based. They can shift appearance when they want, night or day. They represent more of a large walking wolf with a mans posture, and of

course much more muscular than werewolves. The Lycan is a Transylvanian based creature. The evidence is strongly supported, but it is nothing similar to a

werewolf at all. The Lycan is also much smarter than a typical werewolf.

        Werewolves are actually of old English folklore. They started up in the Americas after the Spanish settled here. The werewolf transforms randomly on full

moons only. They represent more of witchcraft and curse, unlike the Lycan; which is said to be Religious practice. Werewolves resemble a man with a wolf-man like

posture and a wolfs' attitude and appearance.


         Lycans are also different in the way to kill them. To kill a Lycan, you must sever the spine from the body. It is ineffective to Silver substances.

         Werewolves must be killed with a Silver object to the head or heart. This will only rid the curse of shape shifting, and bring the victim back to consciousness.


"Werewolf" is Germanic (Were=Man, Wolf=Wolf): ManWolf
"Lycan" from "Lycanthrope" is Latin (Lycan=Wolf, Anthrope=Man): WolfMan



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Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:46 AM

Archosaur on Jul 10 2008, 02:45 AM, said:

"Werewolf" is Germanic (Were=Man, Wolf=Wolf): ManWolf
"Lycan" from "Lycanthrope" is Latin (Lycan=Wolf, Anthrope=Man): WolfMan


Lycan is a much older term just like sang is also in the latin based root and not the common phrase vampire is to werewolf.

Latin goes much further back dated, but it is important to look how society made such 'encounters' and 'rules' for it


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:55 AM

Legendcop13 on Jul 9 2008, 09:13 PM, said:

I have noticed a lot of people comparing Lycans to werewolves. That is no comparison. They are two completely different creatures.
Lycans are more wolf based. They can shift appearance when they want, night or day. They represent more of a large walking wolf with a mans posture, and of
course much more muscular than werewolves. The Lycan is a Transylvanian based creature. The evidence is strongly supported, but it is nothing similar to a
werewolf at all. The Lycan is also much smarter than a typical werewolf.
Werewolves are actually of old English folklore. They started up in the Americas after the Spanish settled here. The werewolf transforms randomly on full
moons only. They represent more of witchcraft and curse, unlike the Lycan; which is said to be Religious practice. Werewolves resemble a man with a wolf-man like
posture and a wolfs' attitude and appearance.
Lycans are also different in the way to kill them. To kill a Lycan, you must sever the spine from the body. It is ineffective to Silver substances.
Werewolves must be killed with a Silver object to the head or heart. This will only rid the curse of shape shifting, and bring the victim back to consciousness.


i have noticed alot of people comparing lycans to werewolves. there is only One comparison, both are fictional.
so it doesnt really matter that much when it comes to differences. unless youre speaking totally folklore.
lycanthropy is a mental illness where someone believes they are a certain animal. and the term 'lycan' was really only used in the Underworld movie (i think). so i reeeeeally hope youre not basing this whole thread off the movie. this better not be your 'evidence'


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:26 AM

I really like beef steaks grilled medium-rare upon an outdoor grill, eh?

Oh, you don't really believe anything stated in this thread, really, do you?

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:29 AM

BigDaddy_GFS on Jul 9 2008, 10:28 PM, said:

Before the movie 'Underworld', I'd never heard the term 'Lycan' used in connection with werewolves.

Thanks for painting me a clearer picture.

same here. even googling lycans just brought up underworld.

I can't find a link that explains more of the lycan practices. can anyone provide any good  informative links?


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:55 AM

try googling "Lycanthrope". Hollywood just shortened the word to Lycan, in fact there is no such thing as "Lycan" as far as a label is concerned. While I find werewolves and lycanthopes interesting, I wouldn't put much stock in them being real.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 05:03 AM

Incorrigible1 on Jul 10 2008, 05:26 AM, said:

I really like beef steaks grilled medium-rare upon an outdoor grill, eh?

Oh, you don't really believe anything stated in this thread, really, do you?


hahaha I like mine raw/rare hehaha yummy!


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 05:04 AM

Awww cryptothreadgoers, ya'll were doing so good on no more of these threads.  Oh well, I guess we all have a hard on for the were's tongue.gif  

Seriously though, aside from Bigfoot, Werewolves and then I think Vampires (in that order to) are the most obsessed over cryptos on any paranormal thread I've ever been at.  Nothing wrong with it, just all the arguments have been done sadly.

And were's are real.  I'm sure not a fake therian  yes.gif  tongue.gif


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:48 AM

Slave2Fate on Jul 10 2008, 05:55 AM, said:

try googling "Lycanthrope". Hollywood just shortened the word to Lycan, in fact there is no such thing as "Lycan" as far as a label is concerned. While I find werewolves and lycanthopes interesting, I wouldn't put much stock in them being real.


yes.gif Kind of annoying how this happened, Lycanthropy is a recognised medical condition which has been bastardised to cover the whole werewolf thing.

Wiki has a good explaination for clinical lycanthropy

Lycanthropy

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Clinical lycanthropy is defined as a rare psychiatric syndrome which involves a delusion that the affected person can or has transformed into an animal, or that he or she is an animal. Its name is connected to the mythical condition of lycanthropy, a supernatural affliction in which people are said to physically shapeshift into wolves. The word zoanthropy is also sometimes used for the delusion that one has turned into an animal in general and not specifically a wolf.

Affected individuals report a delusional belief that they have transformed, or are in the process of transforming into another animal. It has been linked with the altered states of mind that accompany psychosis (the reality-bending mental state that typically involves delusions and hallucinations) with the transformation only seeming to happen in the mind and behavior of the affected person.

It also seems that lycanthropy is not specific to an experience of human-to-wolf transformation; a wide variety of creatures have been reported as part of the shape-shifting experience. A review[4] of the medical literature from early 2004 lists over thirty published cases of lycanthropy, only the minority of which have wolf or dog themes. Canines are certainly not uncommon, although the experience of being transformed into hyenas, cats, horses, birds and tigers has been reported on more than one occasion. Transformation into frogs, and even bees, has been reported in some instances. A 1989 case study described how one individual reported a serial transformation, experiencing a change from human, to dog, to horse, and then finally cat, before returning to the reality of human existence after treatment. There are also reports of people who experienced transformation into an animal only listed as 'unspecified'.

One important factor may be differences or changes in parts of the brain known to be involved in representing body shape (e.g. see proprioception, body image). A neuroimaging study of two people diagnosed with clinical lycanthropy showed that these areas display unusual activation, suggesting that when people report their bodies are changing shape, they may be genuinely perceiving those feelings. Body image distortions are not unknown in mental and neurological illness, so this may help explain at least part of the process. One further puzzle is why an affected person doesn't simply report that their body "feels like it is changing in odd ways", rather than presenting with a delusional belief that they are changing into a specific animal.


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:40 PM

You know, when ever Hollywood makes up a new creature, or something along those lines, the "loner" or non-conforming groups (sorry if this is over-generalizing or not proper) will pick it up. Now there are very legitimate groups and individuals that would classify as a "werewolf." Unfortunately most, and probably the entire visible minority of "werewolfs" are not real. Now when a movie like, let's say, UNDERWORLD comes along there are certain personalities that will grab this cool new name or creature (werewolf/vampire hybrid for example) and cling to it. Since the release of UNDERWORLD groups and communities of "Lycans" and "Werewolf/ Vampire Hybrids" have sprung up. Just around town I've heard of people who like to call themselves Lycans. Before the movie I only knew the word Lycan as the stem or partial stem to several words. So the point of this rant is to say that there are legitimate "werewolfs" (I HATE using that name) but the majority (at least 99 percentish) are just kids who live in movies and take it too seriously. And from what research I've done I found that this perimeters in which lycans and werewolfs are different (as stated by the OP) have no roots any earlier than the release of that movie. Then some of the stuff that was around before that movie comes out were applied to werewolfs. So with what anyone can say and claim on the internet nothing should be trusted.

Edited by paranormalguy, 10 July 2008 - 03:41 PM.


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:50 PM

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paranormalguy on Jul 10 2008, 04:40 PM, said:

You know, when ever Hollywood makes up a new creature, or something along those lines, the "loner" or non-conforming groups (sorry if this is over-generalizing or not proper) will pick it up. Now there are very legitimate groups and individuals that would classify as a "werewolf." Unfortunately most, and probably the entire visible minority of "werewolfs" are not real. Now when a movie like, let's say, UNDERWORLD comes along there are certain personalities that will grab this cool new name or creature (werewolf/vampire hybrid for example) and cling to it. Since the release of UNDERWORLD groups and communities of "Lycans" and "Werewolf/ Vampire Hybrids" have sprung up. Just around town I've heard of people who like to call themselves Lycans. Before the movie I only knew the word Lycan as the stem or partial stem to several words. So the point of this rant is to say that there are legitimate "werewolfs" (I HATE using that name) but the majority (at least 99 percentish) are just kids who live in movies and take it too seriously. And from what research I've done I found that this perimeters in which lycans and werewolfs are different (as stated by the OP) have no roots any earlier than the release of that movie. Then some of the stuff that was around before that movie comes out were applied to werewolfs. So with what anyone can say and claim on the internet nothing should be trusted.


clap.gif Good post! "Werewolves" are an ancient legend and the movie stuff skews people's perspectives and overshadows the other "evidence" and cultural tales. (Note: I'm not actually saying I believe in werewolves etc. But the stories of them are embedded in many cultures and it's an interesting subject)

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:52 PM

Therianthropy is about as close as it comes to the myth of werewolves or "lycans" being real, so the differences between the two are irrelevant, IMO. But if it makes you happy, explain away. It's a spiritual belief, Therianthrophy, that's all, nothing more.

Edited by ~Onyx~, 10 July 2008 - 03:52 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 06:44 PM

The words lycan and lycanthropy have been in use much longer than the movie Underworld. Lycanthrophy also comes from the Greek and not Latin. Lycaon the first king of Arcadia in mythology was also the first person to be turned into a wolf according to legend. There are also many tales of shapeshifters in Native American legends though they can turn into other animals and not just wolves. I believe most of it is fiction..most of it.

Edited by Clovis, 10 July 2008 - 06:44 PM.





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