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Posted 24 July 2008 - 05:55 PM

Barack Obama - we must tear down the world's walls

Barack Obama latched on to the symbolic power of the Berlin wall as a he launched the most keenly anticipated speech of his political career in front of tens of thousands of Berliners.

Speaking at the foot of the Victory Column in the German capital the Democratic presidential nominee told the cheering crowd that the world "cannot afford to be divided" and held out the concept of a planet free of nuclear weapons.

He said: “While the 20th Century taught us that we shared a destiny, the 21st Century has shown us a time when the people of the world are more intertwined than ever before.”

Pointing out that the terrorists of September 11 plotted in Hamburg and trained in Karachi, he suggested that in the globalised world poorly secured secrets in the former Soviet Union, or a rogue Pakistani scientist could cause a nuclear bomb blast in Paris.

He said: “The greatest danger to all of is to allow new walls to divide us”

“These are the new walls we must tear down - history has taught us that walls can be torn down."

Sen Obama hopes the set-piece will help him seize the initiative in the race for the White House with a powerful address laying out his vision for America's relationship with Europe.

He added: “This is the moment when we must defeat terror, when we must dry up the well of extremism.

“If we could win a battle of ideas against the communists we can stand with the vast majority of Muslims who reject Islamic extremism.

"This is the moment when we must renew the goal of a world without nuclear weapons. We need not stand idly by and watch further spread of the deadly atom."

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 06:04 PM

peace and logic. not idealistic but takes harder work than bombing a country.


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Posted 24 July 2008 - 06:07 PM

But I need those walls to protect me from the shrapnel flying from the carbomb....

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:36 PM

Maybe all the conservatives with have Reagan flashbacks and vote for him.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:42 PM

If we have Reagan flashbacks we will remember that Reagan meant what he said mostly.  If that happens where will Obama stand.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 02:55 PM

danielost on Jul 25 2008, 09:42 AM, said:

If we have Reagan flashbacks we will remember that Reagan meant what he said mostly.  If that happens where will Obama stand.


what was it that Reagan meant ? the wall would have come down anyway. he had nothing to do with it. finances did.  He just had a PR moment. Obama is asking walls come down that are symbolic. that divide us. much harder to do. Reagan built walls ( Iran -Contra , selling weapons to Iraq. training and financing Bin laden)


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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:56 PM

Lt_Ripley on Jul 25 2008, 02:55 PM, said:

what was it that Reagan meant ? the wall would have come down anyway. he had nothing to do with it. finances did.  He just had a PR moment. Obama is asking walls come down that are symbolic. that divide us. much harder to do. Reagan built walls ( Iran -Contra , selling weapons to Iraq. training and financing Bin laden)

Revise and rewrite history is the only thing you can do now.

Here we have someone merely talking and have done nothing that you are already praising and giving credit to, while Reagan who have accomplished what he said, you trash and change story.

Obama is asking but not offering a plan. He thinks he can simply talk, or is he willing to give up some of our way of life to make the walls come down?

Edited by AROCES, 25 July 2008 - 04:00 PM.


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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:03 PM

Lt_Ripley on Jul 24 2008, 06:04 PM, said:

peace and logic. not idealistic but takes harder work than bombing a country.

You will use peace and logic against a Hitler, Saddam or a culture that cut heads on videos???



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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:45 PM

AROCES on Jul 25 2008, 09:03 AM, said:

...a culture that cut heads on videos???

It's a whole culture now, eh?  

For sane people, violence is a last resort, but for you, at least where muslims are concerned, it's top of the list.  Seek help.


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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:48 PM

danielost on Jul 25 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

If we have Reagan flashbacks we will remember that Reagan meant what he said mostly.  If that happens where will Obama stand.


In your Reagan flashbacks, do you see the most corrupt administration in national history?


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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:50 PM

AROCES on Jul 25 2008, 05:03 PM, said:

You will use peace and logic against a Hitler, Saddam or a culture that cut heads on videos???


A "culture" that cuts heads on videos????  And who is rewriting history?


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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:18 PM

HKCavalier on Jul 25 2008, 05:45 PM, said:

It's a whole culture now, eh?  

For sane people, violence is a last resort, but for you, at least where muslims are concerned, it's top of the list.  Seek help.

That is who we fighting, not the entire muslim world, right?
And if you would like to try diplomacy to such lunatics, then you  go ahead. Or no head?  hmm.gif

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:20 PM

Expatriate on Jul 25 2008, 05:50 PM, said:

A "culture" that cuts heads on videos????  And who is rewriting history?

YUP, and I am not rewriting it, it's on video.
Now if you will say I was refering to the whole muslim world then show me where I said such.


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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:46 PM

obama should be jailed for the comments made during the speech in berlin.






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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:07 AM

acidhead43 on Jul 25 2008, 03:46 PM, said:

obama should be jailed for the comments made during the speech in berlin.


Joke?

If not, which comments..

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