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#1    Quarantined

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:35 AM

These two male lions killed 135 railroad workers in Kenya in the year 1898.



Any ideas on what caused these lions to act this way?

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:44 AM

Hungry.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:45 AM

I think there was a movie about them.


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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:52 AM

Wait, in your title you said they killed for sport, now you say you need ideas as to why they'd do it?

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:55 AM

chaoszerg on Aug 19 2008, 03:45 AM, said:

I think there was a movie about them.

1996, The Ghost and the Darkness. Val Kilmer. Fine flick.

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0116409/

Gee, last time I mentioned this, I was grilled by a 14-year old poster, but this was posted in the wrong forum. Should be Natural World.

There's not a thing "cryptid" about this.

Edited by Incorrigible1, 19 August 2008 - 08:56 AM.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:02 AM

Reasons why, as in, what would cause them to kill for sport?

and I will set a new one in natural world.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:04 AM

Good movie.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:06 AM

Lycus Vron Colatin on Aug 19 2008, 04:02 AM, said:

Reasons why, as in, what would cause them to kill for sport?

and I will set a new one in natural world.

Hunger.

Again, wth is cryptid about this? You've been around long enough to know how this works. Let me guess: You're 14, too?

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:10 AM

Incorrigible1 on Aug 19 2008, 09:06 PM, said:

Hunger.

Again, wth is cryptid about this? You've been around long enough to know how this works. Let me guess: You're 14, too?


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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:13 AM

Undeadskeptic on Aug 19 2008, 04:10 AM, said:

Ooooooooooooo!!! Fight, fight, fight, fight!!!

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I don't mean you, UDS, but when, again, does school start? How many more "vampire, werewolf, I am "this" threads do we suffer through?"

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:36 AM

The lions of Tsavo is a well documented case. They preyed on railroad workers, the film is OK but theres an excellent book I have at home, I'll find the ISBN number when I'm at home.

This website is from the museum where the stuffed lions are now kept and explains some of the reasons why they may have killed so many people...

ROAR!

"In March 1898 the British started building a railway bridge over the Tsavo (SAH-vo) River in East Africa. Over the next nine months, two large male lions killed and ate nearly 140 railway workers. Crews tried to scare off the lions and built campfires and thorn fences for protection, but to no avail. Hundreds of workers fled Tsavo, halting construction on the bridge.

Before work could resume, chief engineer Lt. Col. John Henry Patterson (1865-1947) had to eliminate the lions and their threat. After many near misses, he finally shot the first lion on December 9, 1898, and three weeks later brought down the second. The first lion killed measured nine feet, eight inches (3 m) from nose to tip of tail. It took eight men to carry the carcass back to camp. The construction crew returned and completed the bridge in February 1899.

(The 1996 movie "The Ghost and the Darkness" was based on Patterson's adventures in Tsavo.)

We will never know why the Tsavo lions became man-eaters, but two factors may have contributed to their unusual diet. In the 1890s, an outbreak of rinderpest disease killed millions of zebras, gazelles and other African wildlife. Lions had to look elsewhere for food, and attacks on humans increased across the continent.

Poor burial practices may have also contributed to the Tsavo tragedy. Railroad workers who died of injury or disease were often poorly buried, or not buried at all. A scavenging lion coming across this easy meal might start going after live humans.

Although both of these lions are male, neither has much of a mane.

Lion manes vary from place to place in color and thickness; Tsavo-area lions are often maneless. This may be a "family trait" common in the area--although we don't know if these two lions were closely related."

Wiki page on the lions:ROAR!


They were completely normal lions and not cryptids.

Edited by Schnaffler, 19 August 2008 - 09:39 AM.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 10:47 AM

Cats like to play too and lions are just big cats.


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Posted 19 August 2008 - 12:23 PM

1.618 on Aug 19 2008, 08:47 PM, said:

Cats like to play too and lions are just big cats.

i agree with you, just watch a doco about lions and you will see how they interact with each other and their surroundings. same as your average house cat.......exept the house cat wont rip your face of when you pat him  rofl.gif


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Posted 19 August 2008 - 01:11 PM

The Tsavo Lions can maybe be cryptid because they were supposedly demons sent to kill the workers for driving a railroad line through the land.
But I heard the reason for the lions preying on humans was because one of the lions had a painful tooth problem that would be exacerbated by struggling prey, making humans a softer and easier target.

Edited by Pol_Pot_will_killyou, 19 August 2008 - 01:19 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2008 - 01:17 PM

Pol_Pot_will_killyou on Aug 19 2008, 11:11 PM, said:

The Tsavo Lions can maybe be cryptid because they were supposedly demons sent to kill the workers for driving a railroad line through the land.
But I heard the reason for the lions preying on humans was because one of the lions had a tooth problem, with humans being a softer and easier target.

ooooo sounds spooky and hey demons can posses anything so why not  ohmy.gif





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