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#46    BlindMessiah

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 04:53 AM

IrishAidan on Aug 29 2008, 04:47 AM, said:

It has everything to do with Alex Jones. That crap he spouts has clouded your mind, lil' lady. Open your minds eye!!


Alex Jones is either crazy or is taking advantage of people for money. However, that doesn't mean everything he says is untrue.


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 04:55 AM

BlindMessiah on Aug 29 2008, 12:53 AM, said:

Alex Jones is either crazy or is taking advantage of people for money. However, that doesn't mean everything he says is untrue.


No, just 99.9% of it.  tongue.gif

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:07 AM

IrishAidan on Aug 29 2008, 04:55 AM, said:

No, just 99.9% of it.  tongue.gif


There are forces in this world pushing nations to globalize. That's a fact. The bankers who own the Federal Reserve do have political influence. That's a fact. The rest is pure speculation. Then there's all the crazy ideas about reptilian overlords, aliens, bombs taking out the towers, and other nonsense.


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 07:11 AM

So I missed Obama's speech (caught stevie wonder tho).. anyone got some of the bullet points?

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 07:13 AM

InHuman on Aug 29 2008, 02:11 AM, said:

So I missed Obama's speech (caught stevie wonder tho).. anyone got some of the bullet points?


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 09:48 AM

InHuman on Aug 29 2008, 03:11 AM, said:

So I missed Obama's speech (caught stevie wonder tho).. anyone got some of the bullet points?


see now I missed Stevie Wonder ! Actually Obama's speech was the only one I caught ( I did watch Hilliarys on youtube)

Powerful. You have to watch it because a description isn't enough. I'm sure youtube or somewhere will have it up.

All I can say is the debates with McCain ought to be enjoyable. I'm going to sit back with popcorn .


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 09:58 AM

Lt_Ripley on Aug 29 2008, 09:48 AM, said:

see now I missed Stevie Wonder ! Actually Obama's speech was the only one I caught ( I did watch Hilliarys on youtube)

Powerful. You have to watch it because a description isn't enough. I'm sure youtube or somewhere will have it up.

All I can say is the debates with McCain ought to be enjoyable. I'm going to sit back with popcorn .


If McCain picks Romney as his VP I'll enjpy the VP debate more... I'd love to see someone tear Romney apart after the speech he gave when he withdrew from the primaries. I believe he said something along the lines of, atheists don't exist and the democrats support terrorists.


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 11:36 AM

Alot of the crowd shots were great.  Many people were brought to tears.  You would have thought they were in the midst of Jesus Christ himself.

I didn't see Keith Olberman's response though.  But I bet his man-crush for Obama became even deeper.  Olberman and Chris Matthew's are probably going to have to duke it out for Obama's love.



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Posted 29 August 2008 - 02:19 PM

InHuman on Aug 29 2008, 02:11 AM, said:

So I missed Obama's speech (caught stevie wonder tho).. anyone got some of the bullet points?

Promised the moon/stars while lowering taxes on good people but more taxes for evil rich. The election isn't about BHO, it's about "you."

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 04:48 PM

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Alot of the crowd shots were great.  Many people were brought to tears.  You would have thought they were in the midst of Jesus Christ himself.


Page 1 of the playbook, eh? Turn an amazing strength into some kind of weakness. Obama is an inspirational leader that, yes, can move people to tears with a powerful and amazing piece or oratory. D'oh, that's bad (somehow)!

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 04:58 PM

Startraveler on Aug 29 2008, 11:48 AM, said:

Obama is an inspirational leader that, yes, can move people to tears with a powerful and amazing piece or oratory. D'oh, that's bad (somehow)!


I can think of plenty of other leaders who were great orators with the power to move their crowd to tears.  Can you?  It's fine to admire oratory, but it's not fine to think that's a qualification, in and of itself, to be a national leader.


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:00 PM

Cleomenes on Aug 29 2008, 11:58 AM, said:

I can think of plenty of other leaders who were great orators with the power to move their crowd to tears.  Can you?  It's fine to admire oratory, but it's not fine to think that's a qualification, in and of itself, to be a national leader.

But what else does the freshman Senator from Illinois have to offer?

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:03 PM

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I can think of plenty of other leaders who were great orators with the power to move their crowd to tears. Can you? It's fine to admire oratory, but it's not fine to think that's a qualification, in and of itself, to be a national leader.


Of course not. I firmly agree. Of course, serving the government for decades does not make a good president either.
Lincoln for example served only a small amount of time in the government before coming president.


In addition, can we think of any other leaders who had harsh tempers and were war friendly like McCain?


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:04 PM

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But what else does the freshman Senator from Illinois have to offer?

Perhaps the best economic plan, the best foreign policy plan(besides perhaps Ron Paul's), the best technology plan, the best educational plan, and the best environmental/energy plan?


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:06 PM

sqlserver on Aug 29 2008, 12:04 PM, said:

Perhaps the best economic plan, the best foreign policy plan(besides perhaps Ron Paul's), the best technology plan, the best educational plan, and the best environmental/energy plan?

There's that darned "Perhaps" word.

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