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#1    ASOP

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 02:27 PM

--- On Thu, 8/28/08, KEVIN BOLGER wrote:


Subject: Breaking News If this is true they need to go after him
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:01:06 -0400



Thursday, August 21, 2008
Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court on Grounds he is Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency


A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party.

"I filed this action at this time," Berg stated, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.".

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator's background, and in today's lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls "dual loyalties" due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama's mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg stated. "If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws."

"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected."



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Posted 29 August 2008 - 02:33 PM

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 02:48 PM

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 02:53 PM

The truth about Barack's birth certificate
Lie:

Obama Is Not a Natural Born Citizen
Truth:

Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959. Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 02:56 PM

Obama not a citizen? Man, you people are SCARED.....


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 04:00 PM

Technically McCain was born on a foreign US army base right? So if there's anyone who should be attacked for not being a US citizen it's him, how about some consistency.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 04:30 PM

Uh oh.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 04:32 PM

Cradle of Fish on Aug 29 2008, 11:00 AM, said:

Technically McCain was born on a foreign US army base right? So if there's anyone who should be attacked for not being a US citizen it's him, how about some consistency.


I thought McCain was born on a ship passing thru the Panama Canal. Either way, I think this one has been hashed out already and he was proven to be in the clear.

Obama's probably fine, we'll just have to watch it play out that way.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:04 PM

This seems more fit for the conspiracy theory section...


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 07:24 PM

Not really a conspiracy as the presiding judge has left the case open for further evidence. IT HAS NOT BEEN DISMISSED.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 07:39 PM

If this had any merit Mccain's watch dogs would have caught this long ago and would have exposed it. Obama has nothing to worry about imo.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 07:42 PM

The Silver Thong on Aug 29 2008, 07:39 PM, said:

If this had any merit Mccain's watch dogs would have caught this long ago and would have exposed it. Obama has nothing to worry about imo.


I was thinking the same thing only along the line of Clinton's.


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 08:01 PM

If this was tru there would be no disscussion, he would have been found out A LONG LONG time ago.

This is just one of those things that are being spread via e0mail (which also include his muslimness, and black panther wife)...

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 08:08 PM

InHuman on Aug 29 2008, 03:01 PM, said:

If this was tru there would be no disscussion, he would have been found out A LONG LONG time ago.

This is just one of those things that are being spread via e0mail (which also include his muslimness, and black panther wife)...

NO, it is a legitimate Federal lawsuit that has not been dismissed. I don't know if it's true or not, but it should have been dismissed if it's bogus.

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