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#46    fluw

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 02:13 AM

I have questions for deadtotheworld or any other lycan (or lycanthropes or werewolfs, whatever you call them) that could answer my questions
First of all, I was once asking myself if I was a werewolf, for a long time. I even talked about it to my girlfriend (and she is the only person that really knows every reasons why I think that). I even register on UnexplainedMysteries PRINCIPALLY because of this thread.
So here goes the question:
Do you have more hair than other people?
Do werewolfs prefer to eat meat?
Is it genetic, like if you're a lycan and you have a baby, will it be a lycan?
If you bite someone, will he be a lycan?
(this one is for deadtotheworld): How do you know people that are lycans if they want to keep it secret?
I think I'm a lycan, what syndroms would I have (except dizziness during full moon, and the two first questions I said before...and acting like an animal and sudden rage)?

Thanks for anyone that would answer my question.
And please, I know some of my questions might sound stupid, but as everybody says "The only stupid question is the one that is not asked"

By the way, sorry for my english I'm a french-canadian.



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Posted 08 September 2008 - 03:57 AM

I'm glad to be the first to respond to you. But absolutely ENRAGED that people even post this crap on legitimate sites anymore. I remember a magical, wonderful and great time when people could go on line and speak their minds, and even ask something about "Werewolves or Lycans" and not be rediculed for being either a lost and imaginative child or a complete utter waste of a teenage life. But thanks to filth like you (which now unfortunately are many) on the internet acting all serious hoping some one will be like "Hey that guy gets dizzy from the full moon and is bi -friggin- polar!!! He must be a werewolf!!" Maybe years ago when the internet was young and virgin to idioitic and foolish minds. But not anymore, go on a "larp" or "rpg" website or something like that. But for the love of god don't bring that stuff here, you'll just end up with a healthy dose of cyber-insults. And on a first post too!! Maybe an introduction, make a few friends. *To Mods -- Can't their be a seperate board for posts like this. Luckily the majority of posters are good and well, but the few like you that come along makes me wonder why human are considered superior, I don't see wolves running around and two legs speaking and telling their wolf friends that they're wolf-weres. The human mind is amazing in the way that it SUCKS!! K, rage is all gone now. But seriously, please either find a more apropriate board or if you're serious find a physical or psycological proffesional. They spends 5 years of the prime of their lives learning to help you, use 'em.


EDIT:: Also the fact that you throw "sudden rage" in their just plum pisses me off, what does sudden rage have to do with being an animal, what world are you living in?! If the animal is healthy than it will only attack when justified (hunger or worry). That comment alone could tell me a lot about the poster (young, immature, un-educated etc). But this coupled with the other completely rediculous comments just closes the case. Get real

EDIT2:: Mods please don't delete this post either, just let it be read for a few days. It may seem purposeless but somebody has got to say this stuff or these boards which you work so hard on to "moderate" will only get worse...this isn't an insult or anger post, I'm speaking my mind in as reasonable a way that ! can while in this state of disguist. So please let people hear me out. And Fluw, and didn't mean to direct all my rage to you personally, if you think you're he first to do this you are sickeningly mistaken, this post is towards the many other posters that post similar junk.

Edited by paranormalguy, 08 September 2008 - 04:09 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2008 - 04:52 AM

Interesting read.




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Posted 02 October 2008 - 04:29 AM

fluw on Sep 7 2008, 11:13 PM, said:

I have questions for deadtotheworld or any other lycan (or lycanthropes or werewolfs, whatever you call them) that could answer my questions
First of all, I was once asking myself if I was a werewolf, for a long time. I even talked about it to my girlfriend (and she is the only person that really knows every reasons why I think that). I even register on UnexplainedMysteries PRINCIPALLY because of this thread.
So here goes the question:
Do you have more hair than other people?
Do werewolfs prefer to eat meat?
Is it genetic, like if you're a lycan and you have a baby, will it be a lycan?
If you bite someone, will he be a lycan?
(this one is for deadtotheworld): How do you know people that are lycans if they want to keep it secret?
I think I'm a lycan, what syndroms would I have (except dizziness during full moon, and the two first questions I said before...and acting like an animal and sudden rage)?

Thanks for anyone that would answer my question.
And please, I know some of my questions might sound stupid, but as everybody says "The only stupid question is the one that is not asked"

By the way, sorry for my english I'm a french-canadian.

No, we don't have more hair than other people.  We look like your average human, we just act different.
Yes we prefre meat. I eat mine Medium Rare.  My pack is vegitarian lycans meaning we only eat animal meat, that someone else has killed.    We have rules.  
I belive it is genetic from what I have encountered I haven't met anyone who hasn't had it genetic.
No It can't be passed by biting someone.




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Posted 02 October 2008 - 04:38 AM

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 04:40 AM

Incorrigible1 on Oct 2 2008, 01:38 AM, said:

Heh!

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 11:04 PM

Missy Monster - - "No, we don't have more hair than other people. We look like your average human, we just act different.
Yes we prefre meat. I eat mine Medium Rare. My pack is vegitarian lycans meaning we only eat animal meat, that someone else has killed. We have rules.
I belive it is genetic from what I have encountered I haven't met anyone who hasn't had it genetic.
No It can't be passed by biting someone. "

Not to be blunt but...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Are you for real? They should screen people who register on this site. It is rediculous what stuff some people will come up with. No offence to you or your character as a person (since I don't know you) but not only did what you say sound completely rediculous...like it was written by an imaginative (though often confused) and naive child with some big words, but it also doesn't make much sense. First of all, since when was being a vegetarian in ANY life style mean eating meat that was not killed by you?! Whether it is because of morals or other reasons what you so delicately explained as  "vegitarian" makes no sense. You'll only eat meat you didn't kill? By any moral standards it would make sense to eat ONLY meat you kill. Now assuming that eating meat not killed by you is the definition of "vegitarian" what reasons would you have for acting in this way. It just rediculous. What difference does it make whether you killed it or not? If you are gonna make posts like this it's best to think it through. At least if it where better planned you would get some respect points for not making a complete idiot out of yourself. So spare yourselves, don't be dumby heads. Anyways please expand and better explain your "race" or "lifestyle" or what ever you like to call it...I'm curious.

p.s. What do you mean by "animal meat"? As opposed to what? Come on people, these posts were funner to read when people were good at it, and actually put in some effort to making them.

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Edited by ganphra, 02 October 2008 - 11:07 PM.


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Posted 03 October 2008 - 03:54 AM

ganphra on Oct 2 2008, 07:04 PM, said:

Missy Monster - - "No, we don't have more hair than other people. We look like your average human, we just act different.
Yes we prefre meat. I eat mine Medium Rare. My pack is vegitarian lycans meaning we only eat animal meat, that someone else has killed. We have rules.
I belive it is genetic from what I have encountered I haven't met anyone who hasn't had it genetic.
No It can't be passed by biting someone. "

Not to be blunt but...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Are you for real? They should screen people who register on this site. It is rediculous what stuff some people will come up with. No offence to you or your character as a person (since I don't know you) but not only did what you say sound completely rediculous...like it was written by an imaginative (though often confused) and naive child with some big words, but it also doesn't make much sense. First of all, since when was being a vegetarian in ANY life style mean eating meat that was not killed by you?! Whether it is because of morals or other reasons what you so delicately explained as  "vegitarian" makes no sense. You'll only eat meat you didn't kill? By any moral standards it would make sense to eat ONLY meat you kill. Now assuming that eating meat not killed by you is the definition of "vegitarian" what reasons would you have for acting in this way. It just rediculous. What difference does it make whether you killed it or not? If you are gonna make posts like this it's best to think it through. At least if it where better planned you would get some respect points for not making a complete idiot out of yourself. So spare yourselves, don't be dumby heads. Anyways please expand and better explain your "race" or "lifestyle" or what ever you like to call it...I'm curious.

p.s. What do you mean by "animal meat"? As opposed to what? Come on people, these posts were funner to read when people were good at it, and actually put in some effort to making them.

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As opposed to human.  Well we can't have us being running arouns eating flesh from the undiserving humans can we??  That would be ridicoulously easy. Unless you'd like to be my dinner. I'd think not.   Instead of going out and killing, then eating the flesh of the fresh, we torture ourselves by eating processed meat.   The meat that humans have killed and sold in stores.  But that's not satification.  But to fit in we can't walk around hungery, because of your smell.  The smell of fresh human flesh, with veins crawling through out it.  You want to know temptation try being a lycan walking around your stomach unsatisfied and about to burst through the seems of you skin, because of the alluring smell of you humans... the smelll that you can taste on the tip of your toungue.   We don't kill it to appear normal.  Why the in the world we do this I have no flipping kill.  Why should we restrain control to protect you humans.  I have no clue.  I just follow the rules they've set for us.  I'd rather have a pack, then be alone.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 12:25 PM

MissyMonster on Oct 2 2008, 11:54 PM, said:

As opposed to human.  Well we can't have us being running arouns eating flesh from the undiserving humans can we??  That would be ridicoulously easy. Unless you'd like to be my dinner. I'd think not.   Instead of going out and killing, then eating the flesh of the fresh, we torture ourselves by eating processed meat.   The meat that humans have killed and sold in stores.  But that's not satification.  But to fit in we can't walk around hungery, because of your smell.  The smell of fresh human flesh, with veins crawling through out it.  You want to know temptation try being a lycan walking around your stomach unsatisfied and about to burst through the seems of you skin, because of the alluring smell of you humans... the smelll that you can taste on the tip of your toungue.   We don't kill it to appear normal.  Why the in the world we do this I have no flipping kill.  Why should we restrain control to protect you humans.  I have no clue.  I just follow the rules they've set for us.  I'd rather have a pack, then be alone.


Okay, here MissMonster, I'm sorry, but I HAVE to agree with Ganphra. It is purely ridiculous what you just said. It's just too easy to find out that you made that all up. You're not writing a book.
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Edited by fluw, 03 October 2008 - 12:25 PM.


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Posted 03 October 2008 - 11:09 PM

In case you weren't aware, Humans are mammals, and mammals are animals. Glad I cleared that up for you, also it is clear that you can't spell or use proper grammar. And what makes "us humans" smell any more "alluring" than a cat, dog or perhaps deer? And who is this "they" you speak of that made all these laws that you follow with some confusion and frustration, yet apparent endless loyalty? None of your story makes any sense. And what motivation of it is your to go online and speak with these humans that you long to ingest? I would ask more questions about you but that would do no good, you'd just lie. So you're just wasting you time on here, as well you ARE NOT A WEREWOLF/LYCAN/LOUP-GAROU/WOLF-MAN/MAN-WOLF/MONSTER!!!!!!1!11111!!!!!! And I'd rather if you didn't threaten me (in reference to "Unless you'd like to be my dinner" -MissyMonster)...also sarcasm is the humour of the weak minded. And I'm sure if there were a race such as yours with the very specific and globally accepted rules you would be less uneducated, stupid, ignorant, and rash.

Edited by ganphra, 03 October 2008 - 11:10 PM.


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Posted 04 October 2008 - 06:19 AM

It seems kids like this are ruining the werewolf subject overall. Is there anyone out there who would like a thread on real werewolves, as in the spiritual path of shapeshifting through shamanic or pagan ritual. I have tons of historic info on this common worldwide occult phenomenon, that has very firm roots as a real and present practice, but have yet to find a thread that isn't. . well. . . this.
This isn't the underworld its the real world, lets discuss things that relate to that fact.
That said, if anyone would like I may post a real werewolf thread based in fact and historic evidence of spiritual shapeshifting from prehistoric time through the middle ages and into modern times. A place to discuss cultural legends and references, the relation of werewolf beliefs to witchcraft, shamanism, and skinwalkers.
I just don't want it to turn into this, or for people to jump to the conclusion that its going to be like this and come along and start badgering me about starting it in the first place due to this sort of thing.
If people are interested in such a thread let me know, and be assured that I am a reasonably sound minded member of society who practices spiritual shapeshifting as part of my shamanic path, who happens to have a small library on this subject and related material.
I have been researching the subject of werewolves for nearly ten years, and collecting the information that I find, lets say, more firmly grounded in the real world. Let me tell you, UM isn't the only place where this stuff goes on, riddling my research with false information, based in fantasy and fiction.
If anyone else is interested (as I hope they will be,) on getting down to the true nature of the beast, just let me know.

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 07:08 AM

CaitSith on Oct 3 2008, 11:19 PM, said:

It seems kids like this are ruining the werewolf subject overall. Is there anyone out there who would like a thread on real werewolves, as in the spiritual path of shapeshifting through shamanic or pagan ritual. I have tons of historic info on this common worldwide occult phenomenon, that has very firm roots as a real and present practice, but have yet to find a thread that isn't. . well. . . this.
This isn't the underworld its the real world, lets discuss things that relate to that fact.
That said, if anyone would like I may post a real werewolf thread based in fact and historic evidence of spiritual shapeshifting from prehistoric time through the middle ages and into modern times. A place to discuss cultural legends and references, the relation of werewolf beliefs to witchcraft, shamanism, and skinwalkers.
I just don't want it to turn into this, or for people to jump to the conclusion that its going to be like this and come along and start badgering me about starting it in the first place due to this sort of thing.
If people are interested in such a thread let me know, and be assured that I am a reasonably sound minded member of society who practices spiritual shapeshifting as part of my shamanic path, who happens to have a small library on this subject and related material.
I have been researching the subject of werewolves for nearly ten years, and collecting the information that I find, lets say, more firmly grounded in the real world. Let me tell you, UM isn't the only place where this stuff goes on, riddling my research with false information, based in fantasy and fiction.
If anyone else is interested (as I hope they will be,) on getting down to the true nature of the beast, just let me know.


I'm not sure I would do that if I were you. I'm sure the few legitimate "werewolf" types out there would have already taken the time and effort to learn what needs to be known. For you to make a new thread or post on that subject would, in my opinion,  give legitimate and more "proffessional" sounding "evidence" to either the stupid kids that are already out there or the stupid adults that are already out there. And within a month of the "truth" being given to the stupid population half of the new threads and posts made would see that info most likely used as back up for the hollywood style werewolf. So long and short, it would probably make it worse. Though if you feel some what obligated to teach this info maybe perhaps do it by personal message or the like. As opposed to just "throwing" the info out on the boards, which contains the type of people who will soak up and absord/use the info given. Although I may be overgeneralizing, I think that roughly 75 percent of the pop on these boards are the "stupid" people we hear about and see. Of those 100 percent are like sponges ready to take any new cool or unique sounding trait/religion/cult as there own. And for that reason any info you may have should be reserved for the super keen werewolves. But do as you please, I'm just saying if you do it you could possibly start another sub-culture much similar to the vamp which would then end with pagan/shamic rituals being ridiculed and laughed at on these boards. And I'm sure none of us want that....


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Posted 04 October 2008 - 09:23 AM

ganphra on Oct 4 2008, 02:08 AM, said:

I'm not sure I would do that if I were you. I'm sure the few legitimate "werewolf" types out there would have already taken the time and effort to learn what needs to be known. For you to make a new thread or post on that subject would, in my opinion,  give legitimate and more "proffessional" sounding "evidence" to either the stupid kids that are already out there or the stupid adults that are already out there. And within a month of the "truth" being given to the stupid population half of the new threads and posts made would see that info most likely used as back up for the hollywood style werewolf. So long and short, it would probably make it worse. Though if you feel some what obligated to teach this info maybe perhaps do it by personal message or the like. As opposed to just "throwing" the info out on the boards, which contains the type of people who will soak up and absord/use the info given. Although I may be overgeneralizing, I think that roughly 75 percent of the pop on these boards are the "stupid" people we hear about and see. Of those 100 percent are like sponges ready to take any new cool or unique sounding trait/religion/cult as there own. And for that reason any info you may have should be reserved for the super keen werewolves. But do as you please, I'm just saying if you do it you could possibly start another sub-culture much similar to the vamp which would then end with pagan/shamic rituals being ridiculed and laughed at on these boards. And I'm sure none of us want that....

Actually that's why I haven't put anything up thus far, though I can't help but put my two cents in on the subject every time I see it come up. I find it hard to swallow such outlandish claims on a subject I have so much info on. I can't help but feel that this information can be used for more than debunking the claims of socially repressed thirteen year olds. Thinking maybe if the facts, along with my theories and the theories of others were all laid out together, (and by all means I'm not saying I have all the facts) would give us a place to send these kids and let them know where the general board public stands on the subject. You're probably right though.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 05:59 PM

paranormalguy on Aug 31 2008, 02:24 AM, said:

I want to let you guys know that the word lycan did in fact come from the film underworld. I already made an extensive post in one of the other many Lycan/Werwolf threads. For the sake of convenience I'll repost it here.


Ok, I am going to sound like a total geek, but you are incorrect in that one statement, and the proof is in Dungeons and Dragons.  (lol see, I am a geek  grin2.gif ) As I am sure you are aware D&D has been around for quite sometime, I am not sure of when it actually came out, I believe it was in the 80's, however Lycanthropy is a curse in the game that a player can have, after being bite by another lycan.  So Lycanthropy has been a term that has been around for a while and I have been using it since 1996 when I started playing, and as you are aware, 1996 is before the movie "Underworld" came out.  Where the term orginated from before that, I couldn't tell you.  Just wanted to add my 2 cents and enlighten you to your error, although the rest of you post was well put together and right on with the information.


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Posted 14 October 2008 - 11:49 PM

I'm quite aware that the term lycanthropy has been used in full for years, perhaps even since medievil times but the creatures and the names given to the creatures in the movie "Underworld" are solely those of the creator. What is seen in underworld has no basis in fact....other than the relationship with wolves. Although Lycanthrope shortened to "lycan" may have been used on a very small scale, perhaps by gamers like you said, before the film underworld not only was it never if rarely used but when it was used it didn't mean what you see in Underworld.





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