IrishAidan on Sep 19 2008, 01:26 AM, said:
Nice little red herring there - the point I made was that you are claiming to be liberal, and Obama is the best chance - yet you are throwing that away for entirely bullshi-t reasons.
And I'm allowed to rip you a new one for them. This is a forum, after all.
Biden had the other advantages I mentioned. Richardson might have been a better pick, but he's done terrible under media scrutiny, and he's a little too nice in public.
I provided reasons for why I called you that. Do you have any reason in particular, or are you merely spreading the hate?
I hadn't realized "being shot down over Hanoi" counted as foreign policy experience. You're telling me that Biden, who has been sitting on the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee for over two decades, has less experience than McCain, who was elected to the Senate about two decades ago?
Yet you make a deal over not voting for Biden because he turns you off in a way you don't understand. Unless the entire column is a subtle joke, then the fact that you were being half-joking about the smile doesn't change the greater part of my criticism.
While withstanding torture is arguably a character-building experience, it's not a qualification for the Presidency (many people have faced it). Biden, at least, was learning something about politics.
Besides, it's not as if Biden's lived a Charmed Life. McCain may have spent five years in Hanoi, but Biden lost his wife and daughter right after winning his Senate seat in 1972. You know, seven years before McCain cheated on his first wife and married money.
Why don't you tell me, then, what a person who is planning to vote for someone representing the opposite of his supposedly held beliefs is? Not an idiot, or dishonest? I guess you could say "foolish", but that tends to fall into the "idiotic" category.
Do you ever plan to actually answer the point, which was that if you actually spent some time doing research on Palin as opposed to basking in the glow of such an "intelligent, beautiful, funny" governor, you would see her for the lying, deceitful governor she actually was and is? Frankly, almost her entire image is bull, from the Bridge to Nowhere she supposedly opposed (only she didn't, and kept the money when it was cancelled), to the investigation that she's backtracked completely on even though she called for it to be done in the first place.
Charlie? Hmm. It escapes me. NB... Arg. Escapes me.
Wow, she's had a total of one interview that wasn't complete pandering bull like Sean Hannity's tend to be when it's a conservative celebrity. Obama's done, what, 20? And that's not including the debates.
Me neither, but that doesn't answer my point. Unless you were joking about voting against Biden because he rubs you the wrong way, and about all that "looks" crap, then you are that kind of voter.
It's good to know that you weren't being dishonest, then - merely stupid.
Like I mentioned, at the very least, Obama amounts to one thing - not a default veto stamp on important Democratic legislation. And I severely doubt he'll be just that; I haven't noticed any personality traits akin to Warren Harding in his personality.
I generally find that being honest if a bit rude can help get the point better than playing to the "Miss Manners" bull. Would it have really made a difference had I taken the time to type out some long, drawn out criticism in addition to my points that would have amount to a windbag version of "you're an idiot"?