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#31    IrishAidan07

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:23 AM

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Smaller government now equates to liberalism?


Classical liberalism.



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Posted 22 September 2008 - 01:28 AM

Using private web mail for gov't business.

Nope.

She knew better.



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Posted 22 September 2008 - 02:45 AM

pendora on Sep 21 2008, 09:28 PM, said:

Using private web mail for gov't business.

Nope.

She knew better.

Thier wasn't anything on her e-mail account that was for government business


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Posted 22 September 2008 - 02:51 AM

Does anyone remember about 10 years ago when someone (in Florida I believe) used a scanner to intercept and record a cell phone conversation between Newt Gingrich and several other Republicans as they discussed election strategy? The person they took the tape to a newspaper who printed what was said. A clear violation of law from start to end!

No one was arrested to my knowledge.



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Posted 22 September 2008 - 02:56 AM

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Two Yahoo! email accounts belonging to Palin were hacked early Tuesday by a group calling itself 'Anonymous'. Screen shots of her inbox were posted online, as well as a screenshot showing an email of an apparently personal nature from a Palin appointee to the governor.


Palin's use of the private account to discuss public business a practice reportedly shared by her top aides also raised concerns from open-government advocates, who fear the practice could impede the spirit of laws designed to preserve government communications and documents.


Recently, Palin's office has fought to withhold some emails from public release, saying they were exempt from disclosure because state law protected certain categories of communication, such as those related to the "deliberative process."



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Lawyer Meredith Fuchs of the Washington, D.C.-based National Security Archive has experience on this issue, having fought with the Bush White House over how it preserved emails, and why it allowed key personnel to use private email accounts controlled by the Republican National Committee. She believes Palin's email habits echo the worst practices of the Bush administration.


Government email systems typically have safeguards to preserve communications specifically for open-records purposes. "I don't know what Yahoo's policy is" on how long it saves emails, particularly after they're deleted by the user, said Fuchs, who doubted they were preserved.


http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id...0813&page=2
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=pa...sa=N&tab=wn

hacking it was wrong for any person or business, but this time it did the American people a favor and let them know from the start that her practices are outside the bounds.  Better we know this about her now.

She thinks she's above the law and above protocol and procedure, etc.

She used the yahoo accounts for both personal and govt emails.



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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:03 AM

pendora on Sep 21 2008, 10:56 PM, said:

hacking it was wrong for any person or business, but this time it did the American people a favor and let them know from the start that her practices are outside the bounds.  Better we know this about her now.


The end justifies the means.

Great.

But I bet you're agains the Patriot Act!  blink.gif

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:05 AM

MasterPo on Sep 21 2008, 11:03 PM, said:

The end justifies the means.

Great.

But I bet you're agains the Patriot Act!  blink.gif


If you'll notice, Po, I said the hackers should be prosecuted.  I said it was fortuitous timing.

There is no hint of my suggesting the ends justified. ....you're using the wrong phrase.

I said it was basically a good coincedence.

I do not in any way feel hackers should go unpunished.



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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:10 AM

pendora on Sep 21 2008, 11:05 PM, said:

I said it was basically a good coincedence.


If you can say an illegal act was a benefit that is end justifying the means.




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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:14 AM

MasterPo on Sep 21 2008, 11:10 PM, said:

If you can say an illegal act was a benefit that is end justifying the means.


Let me put it this way.

There is no justifying.  Period.

There is, by sheer coincidence, a knowledge that was unknown before.

Anyway, semantics.

I think it is in the nation's best interest to know the honesty and integrity factor of those who may hold the highest offices.

So far her integrity isn't shining too brightly.

We obviously will disagree on this.  Very obviously,

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:15 AM

MasterPo on Sep 22 2008, 04:10 AM, said:

If you can say an illegal act was a benefit that is end justifying the means.

Like invading Iraq, for example?

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:18 AM

BlindMessiah on Sep 21 2008, 11:44 PM, said:

Data mining seeks out important data and buzz words and sorts through them. Humans only become involved once buzz words are detected.

So every time someone mention bomb, terrorist or Bin ladin the computer send to an agent?????  wacko.gif  
Like I said, common sense is totally gone.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:19 AM

Tiggs on Sep 21 2008, 11:15 PM, said:

Like invading Iraq, for example?

How was the invasion of Iraq an illegal act?


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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:19 AM

Caesar on Sep 21 2008, 11:19 PM, said:

How was the invasion of Iraq an illegal act?


Read the link, perhaps.



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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:20 AM

pendora on Sep 21 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

I think it is in the nation's best interest to know the honesty and integrity factor of those who may hold the highest offices.

So far her integrity isn't shining too brightly.


A court of law would toss this out for being illegally obtained. But it's ok for the court of public opinion?

One of the rumors being circulated is that her baby really isn't her's but her daughter's and her daughter's current pregnancy is a fake. Suppose someone managed to get a hair from Palin, a hair from her daughter and a hair from the baby and ran a DNA test. Regardless of the results, it's published. Would that be OK to know too?




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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:21 AM

I think her family life should be left out of it. It's nobody's business.

Edited by IrishAidan, 22 September 2008 - 03:21 AM.

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