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#1    Caesar

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 10:38 PM

"Barack Obama played the "me too" game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin.

Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son's name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family."
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Posted 28 September 2008 - 10:53 PM

Who really cares?
Thanks for reminding us that the Onion was right in reporting that the most important issue to voters in this election is BS!

Here's a fact, Cesear:
US troops abroad donate 6 TIMES more to Obama then to McCain. This gives us a real hint on who they actually favor.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/tr...ad-give-61.html

So I hope we can stop babbling about bracelets as if they are important what-so-ever to the election and focus on some real issues.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 10:54 PM

To be honest, wearing it at all kind of creeps me out. I know we ought to have respect for our soldiers, and give them what they need, but this . . . it strikes me almost as if they're carrying it like some type of totem. It's like the flag pins; it's supposed to be patriotic, but it really doesn't mean anything compared to actually being a real patriot.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:15 PM

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:20 PM

From the AP

Soldier's mother ``ecstatic'' about Obama's bracelet
By DINESH RAMDE | Associated Press Writer
4:28 PM CDT, September 28, 2008
MILWAUKEE - The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.

Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.

She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes.

She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she says Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet.

Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war.




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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:53 PM

sqlserver on Sep 28 2008, 06:53 PM, said:

Who really cares?
Thanks for reminding us that the Onion was right in reporting that the most important issue to voters in this election is BS!

Here's a fact, Cesear:
US troops abroad donate 6 TIMES more to Obama then to McCain. This gives us a real hint on who they actually favor.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/tr...ad-give-61.html

So I hope we can stop babbling about bracelets as if they are important what-so-ever to the election and focus on some real issues.

Cheers,
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opensecrets.org wow great source


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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:54 PM

pendora on Sep 28 2008, 07:20 PM, said:

From the AP

Soldier's mother ``ecstatic'' about Obama's bracelet
By DINESH RAMDE | Associated Press Writer
4:28 PM CDT, September 28, 2008
MILWAUKEE - The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.

Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.

She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes.

She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she says Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet.

Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war.

LOL it doesn't get any stranger then this



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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:59 PM

Isn't wearing a bracelet for one soldier some kind of favouritism? Like I remember this dead soldier more than the rest? If you're going to wear a bracelet(and you supported the war), you should be made to wear one for each soldier, civilian and contractor who has died so far in that conflict.

Not such a gimmick now is it?

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:02 AM

Cradle of Fish on Sep 28 2008, 11:59 PM, said:

Isn't wearing a bracelet for one soldier some kind of favouritism? Like I remember this dead soldier more than the rest? If you're going to wear a bracelet(and you supported the war), you should be made to wear one for each soldier, civilian and contractor who has died so far in that conflict.

Not such a gimmick now is it?



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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:09 AM

As the story suggested, the mother of the fallen soldier asked Obama to wear it.  What's he s'posed to say?  "Thanks, but no thanks?"  "If I wear your son's bracelet, I'll end up having to wear all the soldier's bracelets, and that would hurt my arms?"  It's just a gesture of respect--nothing more, nor less.  Do we really have to make rules for this stuff?  Can we suspend P.C. perfectionism long enough for people to grieve however they see fit?  If a mother wants to give a candidate a bracelet to remember her son by, where's the harm???


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:11 AM

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LOL it doesn't get any stranger then this

I absolutely agree, Caesar. It doesn't get any stranger then posting an irrelevant, pointless story that is wrong and misleading to begin with.

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opensecrets.org wow great source

I know it is! Here are some more reporting the same fact.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/de...o_b_118987.html
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h5FiNn...WUBX6GMFvu524Qg
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...9-12335,00.html
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=08...;show_article=1
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080814/military_donations.html
http://theiraqinsider.blogspot.com/2008/08...es-more-to.html

Just give it up dude.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:14 AM

wear a bracelet is fine, I just think its odd how they told him not mention her son in speeches or debates he does anyways and its fine? why did she even tell him not to wear it?


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:15 AM

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wear a bracelet is fine, I just think its odd how they told him not mention her son in speeches or debates he does anyways and its fine? why did she even tell him not to wear it?

I don't think you are very observant. Here's a hint:
Go back and read the thread again. It isn't very long.

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"Soldier's mother ``ecstatic'' about Obama's bracelet
By DINESH RAMDE | Associated Press Writer
4:28 PM CDT, September 28, 2008
MILWAUKEE - The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.

Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.

She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes.

She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she says Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet.

Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war."


You're welcome.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:21 AM

sqlserver on Sep 28 2008, 08:15 PM, said:

I don't think you are very observant. Here's a hint:
Go back and read the thread again. It isn't very long.

You know what, you aren't going to, so I'll do it for you



You're welcome.

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I don't think you understand my posts


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:27 AM

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I don't think you understand my posts

I think you are making a ridiculous mountain out of a molehill.

She says she supports Obama.
She says that she supports Obama's decision to use the braclet in the debate.
And She criticizes those who are spreading such claims as you are.

What else is there to it?

Not to mention that this is total nonsense. It has nothing to do with the issues of the presidential election whatsoever. It is the kind of BS that has taken over our media...

And then that's also not mentioning that this has no relevance about which candidate troops support more; As we already concluded, the evidence shows that troops vastly support Obama.

So can you please explain where you are going with this?

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