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#1    Caesar

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:37 AM

A man that has spent most of his time being a community organizer then Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004 where Obama used present votes 129 times over eight years. one of every 31 votes in his legislative career. then U.S. Senator, from 2005 till today. most of his U.S. Senate time was spent running for president well in 143 days in the Senate and decides to run for office.


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:40 AM

He is qualified to run for the Democrat ticket, but not as President. grin2.gif


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:42 AM

Before was can say if he or anyone is "qualified" can we agree on what it takes to be "qualified"?

If the office of the President is an executive level position like a CEO then what would you want to see on the resume of a CEO candidate?



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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:47 AM

True but if they both from congress then the one thats been thier the longest wins. but Palin is the only one that has executive experience, business owner, governer and mayor.


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:52 AM

Caesar on Sep 28 2008, 11:47 PM, said:

True but if they both from congress then the one thats been thier the longest wins. but Palin is the only one that has executive experience, business owner, governer and mayor.


but she isn't, her interviews are pathetic, she has MUCH less understanding about the economy, foreign policy and other things than either Obama or McCain.


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:53 AM

Caesar on Sep 28 2008, 11:47 PM, said:

True but if they both from congress then the one thats been thier the longest wins. but Palin is the only one that has executive experience, business owner, governer and mayor.


I agree.

By "executive experience" we (me and I presume you) mean that the candidate has been the #1 top buck-stops-here person of an organization and not just on a committee.

Now in truth neither Obama nor McCain has been in that roll.

So let's dig deeper.

McCain does have military experience as an officer. Officers are in charge of groups of junior ranking persons. The officer is responsible and accountable for the group, the success or failure, and the very lives of the group. And he had to answer to more senior people who could discipline him if he failed.

IMO that counts a lot.

Whereas Obama has never been the #1 person of any organizations, never had to answer to someone above him, and certainly was never in a position where he had to perform as promised or loose his job.



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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:54 AM

zitro1987 on Sep 28 2008, 11:52 PM, said:

but she isn't,


Palin is not the Gov of Alaska? She wasn't a Mayor or a business owner/operator?

When did this happen?



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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:56 AM

AROCES on Sep 29 2008, 04:40 AM, said:

He is qualified to run for the Democrat ticket, but not as President. grin2.gif



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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:56 AM

zitro1987 on Sep 28 2008, 11:52 PM, said:

but she isn't, her interviews are pathetic, she has MUCH less understanding about the economy, foreign policy and other things than either Obama or McCain.

The economy of Alaska isn't bad, Obama has just as much foreign policy as she does. she has had something like 3 interviews that the media tries to nail her like whats the Bush doctrin ect


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:00 AM

Obama is said to be qualified because of his community organization experience.

Where is it documented all the projects he proposed, started and completed as a CO?
WHat was the out come of the projects?
How many people's lives were made better by the projects?
How many people were elevated out of poverty or drugs or crime who otherwise wouldn't have been if not for his projects?

What's his track record on that?



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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:04 AM

MasterPo on Sep 28 2008, 11:53 PM, said:

I agree.

By "executive experience" we (me and I presume you) mean that the candidate has been the #1 top buck-stops-here person of an organization and not just on a committee.

Now in truth neither Obama nor McCain has been in that roll.

So let's dig deeper.

McCain does have military experience as an officer. Officers are in charge of groups of junior ranking persons. The officer is responsible and accountable for the group, the success or failure, and the very lives of the group. And he had to answer to more senior people who could discipline him if he failed.

IMO that counts a lot.

Whereas Obama has never been the #1 person of any organizations, never had to answer to someone above him, and certainly was never in a position where he had to perform as promised or loose his job.

I was in the military and I can see you point of view. in fact many officers have made great ceo's I think in 2001 almost half of the top 100 companies had former officers and most were Marines


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:04 AM

SilverCougar on Sep 29 2008, 04:56 AM, said:

What was that about.. pot shots?

Yup, and feel free to reply.


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:06 AM

"Qualifications" is not exactly among his stronger suits.
Not even in the closet actually.
Not sure where those are... Maybe down in the basement back among the boxes you never get to.
What is the appeal there, anyway?
Novelty? Hatred of all things Republican? (Easily among the worst reasons to vote for someone)
I'm thinkin here... I'm tryin...
Why would anyone follow such a caricature of do-nothing emptiness, failed leftist ideology and wishy-washy weakness?
Lemme get back to you on that.


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:09 AM

Let's look at it like this:

Obama is a Junior Senator.

Would a Junior Accountant or Lawyer or Financier or Manager be qualified to be CEO of a major company? Sure he can apply but is he qualified?

I once read that GE takes 20 years to groom an executive-level person.


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:23 AM

MasterPo on Sep 29 2008, 05:09 AM, said:

Let's look at it like this:

Obama is a Junior Senator.

Would a Junior Accountant or Lawyer or Financier or Manager be qualified to be CEO of a major company? Sure he can apply but is he qualified?

I once read that GE takes 20 years to groom an executive-level person.

When it comes to politics, being a good speaker is a big plus.
And Obama is very good in prepared speeches. That propelled him over Hillary but now comes the time when policies are over speeches.

Edited by AROCES, 29 September 2008 - 05:05 AM.





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