lil gremlin on Feb 24 2009, 11:04 AM, said:
and for us mere mortals.....
whilst the Greeks didnot worship ketos (she was a seamonster to them), these levantine folk did worship her as a goddess......or rather, we have a composite mythical creature worshiped as a god by the phoenicians of Joppe, that the greeks/romans equated with ketos.
notice pliny's use of the word fabulous....
.....not meaning, great/wonderful/splendid,
but 'fantastical'/make-believe/crazy/mythical/not real.
pliny does not believe in your ketos dc,
that's the last nail in the coffin on that one.
Anyways i have to confess.......I see dragonses....
i see one almost every week running around infront of me, doing all sorts of tricks.
We call him Cochyn.
on account of him being red.
The Phoenicians of Pliny's time were thoroughly hellenized, a fact you should know. And we see they worship the goddess Ketos, NOT some foreign sounding reptilian goddess like Asheroth. So here is another source that proves you were wrong when you said the 'greeks' didn't worhip Ketos. This region was considered throughly 'Greek' in culture, save for the Jews. Those Greek coins with Ketos head on them were obviously honoring the goddess, and it would be prudent for seafaring people to honor the sea dragons that they certainly believed existed....... creatures that as we have seen, look surprising like the lake and sea monsters seen by thousands of witnesses in modern times.
But as for Pliny, he does described the long necked drakons in the water, NOT confusing them with sharks or whales, though as real creatures. And he mentions in one account ways of repelling them from ships, though I have never seen this account translated in English, only alluded to. Your account confirms the worhip of sea dragons continuing into the time of Pliny, though Pliny himself believed they were only natural animals, like the shark s and whlaes he describes... but these are long necked reptilian ones.
Edited by draconic chronicler, 25 February 2009 - 01:35 PM.