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#1    MysticOnion

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:49 AM

When I did this - it took quite a long time and I wasn't doing it knowingly.  I had no idea that I was creating such a thing but when I read about Tulpas I realised what I was doing.

The Tulpa I created was a tall man who would wear a dark suit, he had long-ish dark hair and wore a silver ring on his right hand and a pentagram around his neck. He could also shape-shift into a serpent.  He had a lot of knowledge and qualities that I myself didn't have.  The Tulpa eventually began to manifest on his own and it was as though he did have a life all of his own.  At first it was just psychics that picked up on him but later other people began to see him around me - they would just casually mention it or something.  Like "Who was that guy you were with?"  When I know I was on my own.. that sort of thing.

At first when I realised he was a Tulpa I concentrated to make him stronger because I really wanted to see if I could do this and actually give him life.  He had a whole range of his own emotions and he started to be able to communicate with other people.  He began to refer to me as his "mother" and it seemed to me that he was communicating and interacting with others without me having to be around.  He was a huge energy drain as well and during his existence I was plagued with terrible nightmares and irrational fears, yet at the same time he was able to accurately predict events in the future such as Earthquakes including locations, number of dead, that sort of thing.  

Eventually because the Tulpa started to rebel and was getting a bit out of my control I had to draw the energy back to myself and sort of destroy him, though I feel now he is not actually destroyed.  His energies are now part of me again.

What do you think of this?  Is creating a Tulpa possible or was I simply... hallucinating?

I am not schizophrenic I assure you - I have an open mind and I like to experiment with things and dabble in the occult here and there.  This was an interesting experiment for me.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 10:04 AM

Crazy people never think they're crazy.  Remember that.

Remember, we are all just acting out a grand old game here, where we agree to forget who we really are, that in the remembering, that we may find each other again, and know that we are One. That All of Life, is One.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 10:33 AM

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Crazy people never think they're crazy. Remember that.

While there is wisdom in that, sane people rarely believe that they are crazy, they just acknowledge the possibility more readily than those who are less sane.

The most famous tulpa report from a Westerner, of having made one rather than simply an anthropoligcal study about Eastern beliefs, is from Alexandra David-Neel, searchable and all over the web.

I've read some of her stuff. Crazy wasn't the first thing that popped into my head. Alternatively, if she is a liar, then she is an especially good one.

So, I think that something happened. I don't know what. I'd like to hear more, please.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 01:50 PM

Godsnmbr1 on Oct 29 2008, 10:04 AM, said:

Crazy people never think they're crazy.  Remember that.


Well if it was just me experiencing it then I'd probably think I was a little crazy or something - however the phenomenon was witnessed by several psychics and at least three of my friends, so it does seem to be more than that.  This would then have to fit into the category of a group hallucination - except that I never actually told these people I was intending to create a Tulpa.  This was done intentionally - I admit it wasn't at first, I was simply imagining the character and what he'd look like and I knew that was imagination and fantasy - to create the actual Tulpa I knew what I was attempting to do and it was a deliberate experiment.  I do not know what would have happened if I had continued to manifest this thoughtform into reality, whether or not he would have become real enough to pass for an actual person, and I have no idea what he did on his own without me around - except that one of my friends apparently had several conversations with him.  She did say of course that she didn't know if she was dreaming or what, but that the man could shapeshift etc, and described him perfectly to me.  So in that case he wasn't as real as you or me, but was able to infiltrate dream states etc.  I feel that he could have taken on a more stable reality if I had let him.  He certainly had a personality and could affect reality in subtle ways.

Since drawing the energy back, I no longer suffer from nightmares or irrational fears and I have a lot of energy in myself that I didn't have before when I was using it to manifest the Tulpa.  Also I suffer from psoriasis and that too has cleared up a bit since I drew him back.

There may be a dozen rational or irrational explanations for this - but I did experience it and I feel I was able to create a very real Tulpa.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 02:35 PM

Oriana on Oct 29 2008, 03:49 AM, said:

"He began to refer to me as his "mother"."
"I had to draw the energy back to myself and sort of destroy him."


That is very poor parenting skills.



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Posted 29 October 2008 - 02:43 PM

Reading this post made me feel like I was drunk!

I wish I had an imagination like that.



I wish I could be as cool as you...and say the things you do

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 02:55 PM

So you..."made" a person (no small feat). Other people could see him, yet you didn't take a picture of him, write down his predictions, or try to prove his existence in any way.

Then you post about it here very nonchalantly, as if it were just "one of those things" that happen from time to time.

Right.

Edited by Moonie2012, 29 October 2008 - 03:14 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 03:13 PM

Oriana on Oct 29 2008, 05:49 AM, said:

When I did this - it took quite a long time and I wasn't doing it knowingly.  I had no idea that I was creating such a thing but when I read about Tulpas I realised what I was doing.

The Tulpa I created was a tall man who would wear a dark suit, he had long-ish dark hair and wore a silver ring on his right hand and a pentagram around his neck. He could also shape-shift into a serpent.  He had a lot of knowledge and qualities that I myself didn't have.  The Tulpa eventually began to manifest on his own and it was as though he did have a life all of his own.  At first it was just psychics that picked up on him but later other people began to see him around me - they would just casually mention it or something.  Like "Who was that guy you were with?"  When I know I was on my own.. that sort of thing.

At first when I realised he was a Tulpa I concentrated to make him stronger because I really wanted to see if I could do this and actually give him life.  He had a whole range of his own emotions and he started to be able to communicate with other people.  He began to refer to me as his "mother" and it seemed to me that he was communicating and interacting with others without me having to be around.  He was a huge energy drain as well and during his existence I was plagued with terrible nightmares and irrational fears, yet at the same time he was able to accurately predict events in the future such as Earthquakes including locations, number of dead, that sort of thing.  

Eventually because the Tulpa started to rebel and was getting a bit out of my control I had to draw the energy back to myself and sort of destroy him, though I feel now he is not actually destroyed.  His energies are now part of me again.

What do you think of this?  Is creating a Tulpa possible or was I simply... hallucinating?

I am not schizophrenic I assure you - I have an open mind and I like to experiment with things and dabble in the occult here and there.  This was an interesting experiment for me.


Okay, I'm just going to take a wild stab at what I think happened:

I think you became obsessed with a sexual fantasy to the point that your subconscious mind actually caused mild hallucinations and memory alterations.



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Posted 29 October 2008 - 03:48 PM

I made a level 20 pikkachu once... But that's the end of my story.


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:32 PM

Remarkable, it seems you made a walking talking copy of Harry Dresden.
Good thing you destroyed him.... the copy infringment lawsuits would have been interesting.

It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:44 PM

ODIN-X on Oct 29 2008, 02:35 PM, said:


That is very poor parenting skills.



What you mean is - it would be if he was a real and actual live person like my son for example.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:46 PM

bleedingelite on Oct 29 2008, 03:13 PM, said:

Okay, I'm just going to take a wild stab at what I think happened:

I think you became obsessed with a sexual fantasy to the point that your subconscious mind actually caused mild hallucinations and memory alterations.



No - the Tulpa wasn't created for sexual fantasies, he was created to help me with Magic rituals.  I wanted to have a sort of magus/master so I imagined one was there to help me.

ShadowSot on Oct 29 2008, 04:32 PM, said:

Remarkable, it seems you made a walking talking copy of Harry Dresden.
Good thing you destroyed him.... the copy infringment lawsuits would have been interesting.


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:49 PM

Moonie2012 on Oct 29 2008, 02:55 PM, said:

So you..."made" a person (no small feat). Other people could see him, yet you didn't take a picture of him, write down his predictions, or try to prove his existence in any way.

Then you post about it here very nonchalantly, as if it were just "one of those things" that happen from time to time.

Right.


No I didn't take a picture of him - I don't think I manifested him clearly enough to do that - as I explained, the friend who had a few conversations with him couldn't tell if she was dreaming or not at the time.  I did write down his predictions yes.  I didn't try to prove his existence because obviously no one is going to believe that.  I assume that you don't believe I made a Tulpa either - just wondering what people think of this.  I don't intend to do it again though I can tell you that.


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:52 PM

No, I don't believe it. How exactly does one have a few lengthy conversations (with an imaginary person a friend MADE, no less) and not know if they are dreams? Come on, she KNOWS they were dreams (if it actually happened at all).

I would like to hear these predictions, though - but only if they apply to events that have yet to happen. Saying he predicted this or that event that already took place means nothing.


Edited by Moonie2012, 29 October 2008 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:02 PM

Mephistopheles looks kinda like what your Tulpa is.

There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating - people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.




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