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#1    darkbreed

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 11:51 PM

This is pretty buggered:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zSDdm-SHI

What on Earth could all those be for, if it has nothing to do with what the conspiracy theorists are theorizing about when it comes to these Fema camps etc?

That's one heck of an amount of "disposable coffins", what would the be used for, why do they store them?

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As a sidenote, I seem to have found the website of the producers, whom clearly states they are coffins for people http://www.polyguardvaults.com/

Edited by darkbreed, 11 December 2008 - 12:15 AM.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 12:52 AM

I just did a full research of CNN, ABC, CBS, CBC, the BBC, and Reuters.

Found nothing on those sites that would confirm this...  

... which brings me to the conclusion that the story is totally false.

And I REFUSE to believe any story that doesn't come from a credible source such as the

ones listed above.

Thou, they did mention a story about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny that I found interesting.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 01:18 AM

who knows. stranger things have happened.  it also could be just storage .


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 02:08 AM

Compost Bins ? It is a Building Site. If the US were suddenly going to massacre the population they probably would do it indoors.


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 02:24 AM

No, I did some further research, and actually contacted the company i linked to above, whom I assumed were the producers. They are not, though they gave me enough information to get some light shred on the whole thing. This is what I was told by Polyguard Vaults:

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Thanks for asking!!!  First off, no they are not ours.  These vaults are manufactured by Vantage Products in COnyers, GA and they own the land that the vaults are stored on.  These vaults have been pre-purchased by funeral homes and cemeteries that have pre-sold individuals like you and I their funeral plans and these vaults are stored with a certificate of ownership on file at Vantage Products for them.  I would guess there are about 38000 units there.  You are welcome to call Vantage and ask to talk with Mike Lacey and he will visit with you.
Polyguard manufactures in Afton, Wyoming.  We manufacture a smiliar product, however, we do not participate in any storage programs.  We have a national contract with the department of Veterans affairs and we sell our products into the Veterans cemeteries to bury the veterans that are being buried on a daily basis.
I hope this helps you!


And that sounds like a plausible enough explanation, the claims in the video that its 500 000 is hard to know as one can't really tell from the video. On the other hand, this would also be a good cover-up story =)

But, if it really was for sinister plans it would be a bit odd that they would use these strong reinforced vaults and not just dig a big hole and dump'em in. Unless they die of something contagious that needs to be sealed up properly wink2.gif

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 02:46 AM

Through FEMA ( Federal Emergency Management Agency ) There will be what is called
'' Takeover '' . These takeovers include anything from the takeover of Electric Power to the

takeover of your Children . They have what is called '' Executive Order 11051 '' And it gives all of the details of the responsibilities of F.E.M.A. It gives F.E.M.A. The authority to

execute the orders of The Executive Order 11051 . F.E.M.A. Covers every type of domestical crisis but it doesn't involve War or Nuclear Attacks . What would it take for

F.E.M.A. to take action ? All F.E.M.A. Need is for The President Of The United States to say that there is some Type Of National Emergency , And they are able to implement any

one of The Executive Order , Regardless of what it is . If The President Says That It Is A National Emergency Then They Take Action . What Are These Executive Orders ? Here Is A List Of Them .

Executive Order 10995 Provides For The Takeover Of The Communication Media
Executive Order 10997 Provides For The Takeover Of The Of All Electric , Power , Petroleum , Gas , Fuels , And Minerals .
Executive Order 10988 Provides For The Takeover Of Food Resources And Farms .

Executive Order 10999 Provides For The Takeover Of All Modes Of Transportation , Control Of Highways , Seaports , Etc .
Executive Order 11000 Provids For Mobilization Of All Civilian Into Work Brigades Under The Government Supervison .
Executive Order 11001 Provides For Governmental Takeover Of All Health Education And Walfare Functions .

Executives Order 11002 Designates The Postmaster General To Operate A National Registration Of All Persons .
Executives Order 11003 Provides For The Government To Takeover Airports And Aircraft .
Executives Order 11004 Provides For The Housing And Finance Authority To Relocate Communities , Designate Areas To Be Abandoned And Establish New Locations For For Populations .
Executives Order 11005 Provides For The Government To Takeover Railroads Inland Waterway And Public Storage Facilities .

These orders were combined under Executive Order 11490 By Ex - President Richard Nixon In October Of 1969 A.D. This executive order states ; Whereas our national security is dependent upon our ability to Assure continuity of government , At every level , In any

National Emergency type situation than might conceivably confront the nation ... This order came after The Original Order , That was given by The Ex - President John F . Kennedy , Signed on October 2 , 1962 A.D. This order was Executive Order 11051 And it stated ;

Whereas , national preparedness must be achieved .. As may be required to deal with increases in International tension with limited war . Or with general war including attack upon The United States ... President Nixon Changes some of the word around .

He took out reference to War and General War from the order , And replaced it with ; During any emergency that might conceivably confront the nation '' . Meaning that F.E.M.A . Has to repond to any situation , even if it is fake , As in the case of The Three Mile Island

In Harrisburg , Pennsylvania . Once The President says that there is A National Emergency , Then the head of FEMA Give the instruction for FEMA To attack and takeover . The executive order were sugned by Ex-President Jimmy Carter on July 20 , 1979 A.D. FEMA Has the



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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:10 AM

They are grave liners.  If the government, FEMA, or some other vague group of nebulous meanies really had plans to off thousands of people, they would stock up on body bags, not bulky cumbersome plastic cartons.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:52 AM

IssaEl on Dec 10 2008, 06:46 PM, said:

Through FEMA ( Federal Emergency Management Agency ) There will be what is called
'' Takeover '' . These takeovers include anything from the takeover of Electric Power to the

takeover of your Children . They have what is called '' Executive Order 11051 '' And it gives all of the details of the responsibilities of F.E.M.A. It gives F.E.M.A. The authority to

execute the orders of The Executive Order 11051 . F.E.M.A. Covers every type of domestical crisis but it doesn't involve War or Nuclear Attacks . What would it take for

F.E.M.A. to take action ? All F.E.M.A. Need is for The President Of The United States to say that there is some Type Of National Emergency , And they are able to implement any

one of The Executive Order , Regardless of what it is . If The President Says That It Is A National Emergency Then They Take Action . What Are These Executive Orders ? Here Is A List Of Them .

Executive Order 10995 Provides For The Takeover Of The Communication Media
Executive Order 10997 Provides For The Takeover Of The Of All Electric , Power , Petroleum , Gas , Fuels , And Minerals .
Executive Order 10988 Provides For The Takeover Of Food Resources And Farms .

Executive Order 10999 Provides For The Takeover Of All Modes Of Transportation , Control Of Highways , Seaports , Etc .
Executive Order 11000 Provids For Mobilization Of All Civilian Into Work Brigades Under The Government Supervison .
Executive Order 11001 Provides For Governmental Takeover Of All Health Education And Walfare Functions .

Executives Order 11002 Designates The Postmaster General To Operate A National Registration Of All Persons .
Executives Order 11003 Provides For The Government To Takeover Airports And Aircraft .
Executives Order 11004 Provides For The Housing And Finance Authority To Relocate Communities , Designate Areas To Be Abandoned And Establish New Locations For For Populations .
Executives Order 11005 Provides For The Government To Takeover Railroads Inland Waterway And Public Storage Facilities .

These orders were combined under Executive Order 11490 By Ex - President Richard Nixon In October Of 1969 A.D. This executive order states ; Whereas our national security is dependent upon our ability to Assure continuity of government , At every level , In any

National Emergency type situation than might conceivably confront the nation ... This order came after The Original Order , That was given by The Ex - President John F . Kennedy , Signed on October 2 , 1962 A.D. This order was Executive Order 11051 And it stated ;

Whereas , national preparedness must be achieved .. As may be required to deal with increases in International tension with limited war . Or with general war including attack upon The United States ... President Nixon Changes some of the word around .

He took out reference to War and General War from the order , And replaced it with ; During any emergency that might conceivably confront the nation '' . Meaning that F.E.M.A . Has to repond to any situation , even if it is fake , As in the case of The Three Mile Island

In Harrisburg , Pennsylvania . Once The President says that there is A National Emergency , Then the head of FEMA Give the instruction for FEMA To attack and takeover . The executive order were sugned by Ex-President Jimmy Carter on July 20 , 1979 A.D. FEMA Has the



M.Z.York


Seems the convicted child molester you so blindly follow doesn't have a clue about how Executive Orders work or what they say. These Executive Orders get brought up every now and then and all the "suspicious information" about them seems to all stem from the same misinterpretations:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2518518

Czero 101 on Sep 27 2008, 01:15 AM, said:

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The article you cite is one of hundreds on the Net that constantly misquote and misrepresent the orders that they are supposedly "exposing". This issue was brought up earlier this month in a thread dealing with the NWO. Here is my response from that thread:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2474333

Czero 101 on Sep 1 2008, 07:53 PM, said:


Have you actually read the orders you're posting about here, or did you just copy this list off some other conspiracy site?

archangel_josh on Sep 1 2008, 06:25 PM, said:


EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

Completely wrong.

This Order re-established the Federal Safety Council.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10990.htm

archangel_josh on Sep 1 2008, 06:25 PM, said:


Executive Order 10090
RE-ESTABLISHING THE FEDERAL SAFETY COUNCIL


SEC. 2. Purpose and functions of Council. The Council shall serve in an advisory capacity to the Secretary of Labor in matters relating to the safety of civilian employees of the Federal government and the municipal government of the District of Columbia and the furtherance of the safety program carried out by the Secretary pursuant to section 33 of the Act. It shall advise the Secretary of Labor with respect to the development and maintenance of adequate and effective safety organizations and programs in the several departments and agencies of the Federal government and the municipal government of the District of Columbia and with respect to criteria, standards, and procedures designed to eliminate work hazards and health risks and to prevent ijuries and accidents in Federal employment.



QUOTE (archangel_josh @ Sep 1 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

Not exactly... It covers the assignment of a Director who handles telecommunication issues for Governmental agencies.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10995.htm
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Executive Order 10995
ASSIGNING TELECOMMUNICATIONS MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONS


SEC. 2. Subject to the authority and control of the President, the Director of Telecommunications Management shall:

(a ) Coordinate telecommunications activities of the executive branch of the Government and be responsible for the formulation, after consultation with appropriate agencies, of overall policies and standards therefor. He shall promote and encourage the adoption of uniform policies and standards by agencies authorized to operate telecommunications systems. Agencies shall consult with the Director of Telecommunications Management in the development of policies and standards for the conduct of their telecommunications activities within the overall policies of the executive branch.

(b ) Develop data with regard to United States Government frequency requirements.

(c ) Encourage such research and development activities as he shall deem necessary and desirable for the attainment of the objectives set forth in section 6 below.

(d ) Contract for studies and reports related to any aspect of his responsibilities.

SEC. 3. The authority to assign radio frequencies to Government agencies, vested in the President by section 305 of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended (47 U.S.C. 305), including all functions heretofore vested in the Interdepartment Radio Advisory Committee, is hereby delegated to the Director of the Office of Emergency Planning, who may redelegate such authority to the Director of Telecommunications Management. Such authority shall include the power to amend, modify, or revoke frequency assignments.

SEC. 6. In carrying out functions under this order, the Director of Telecommunications Management shall consider the following objectives:

(a ) Full and efficient employment of telecommunications resources in carrying out national policies;

(b ) Development of telecommunications plans, policies, and programs under which full advantage of technological development will accrue to the Nation and the users of telecommunications; and which will satisfactorily serve the national security; sustain and contribute to the full development of world trade and commerce; strengthen the position and serve the best interests of the United States in negotiations with foreign nations; and permit maximum use of resources through better frequency management;

(c ) Utilization of the radio spectrum by the Federal Government in a manner which permits and encourages the most beneficial use thereof in the public interest;

(d ) Implementation of the national policy of development and effective use of space satellites for international telecommunications services.

SEC.7. Nothing contained in this order shall be deemed to impair any existing authority or jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission.



QUOTE (archangel_josh @ Sep 1 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

Only in cases of national emergency or war.

This Order empowers the Secretary of the Interior to make Emergency Preparedness plans, but does not empower him to enact these plans.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10997.htm
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Executive Order 10997
ASSIGNING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FUNCTIONS TO THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR


SECTION 1. Scope. The Secretary of the Interior (hereinafter referred to as the Secretary) shall prepare national emergency plans and develop preparedness programs covering (1) electric power; (2) petroleum and gas; (3) solid fuels; and (4) minerals. These plans and programs shall be designed to provide a state of readiness in these resource areas with respect to all conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.

SEC. 7. Emergency Actions. Nothing in this order shall be construed as conferring authority under Title III of the Federal Civil Defense Act of 1950, as amended, or otherwise, to put into effect any emergency plan, procedure, policy, program, or course of action prepared or developed pursuant to this order. Such authority is reserved to the President.



QUOTE (archangel_josh @ Sep 1 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

Nope. This Order, similar to Order 10097, empowers the Secretary of Agriculture to prepare Emergency Preparedness plans that the President can enact in times of national emergency or war.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10998.htm
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Executive Order 10998
ASSIGNING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FUNCTIONS TO THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE


SECTION 1. Scope. The Secretary of Agriculture (hereinafter referred to as the Secretary) shall prepare national emergency plans and develop preparedness programs covering: Food resources, farm equipment, fertilizer, and food resource facilities, as defined below; rural fire control; defense against biological warfare, chemical warfare, and radiological fallout pertaining to agricultural activities; and rural defense information and education. These plans and programs shall be designed to develop a state of readiness in these areas with respect to all conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.

SEC. 10. Emergency Functions. Nothing in this order shall be construed as conferring authority under Title III of the Federal Civil Defense Act of 1950, as amended, or otherwise, to put into effect any emergency plan, procedure, policy, program, or course of action prepared or developed pursuant to this order. Such authority is reserved to the President.



QUOTE (archangel_josh @ Sep 1 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

This orders empowers the Secretary of Commerce, to empower the Secretary to make Emergency Preparedness plans with respect to transportation, to be enacted by the President in times of national emergency or war only.

(Looks like you got your numbers mixed up - or whichever conspiracy site you copied your information from had them wrong. So I guess that answers the question of whether you've read them and where you got them... rolleyes.gif )

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10999.htm
QUOTE

Executive Order 10999
ASSIGNING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FUNCTIONS TO THE SECRETARY OF COMMERCE


SECTION 1. Scope. The Secretary of Commerce (hereinafter referred to as the Secretary) shall prepare national emergency plans and develop preparedness programs covering:

(a ) Development and coordination of over-all policies, plans, and procedures for the provision of a centralized control of all modes of transportation in an emergency for the movement of passenger and freight traffic of all types, and the determination of the proper apportionment and allocation of the total civil transportation capacity, or any portion thereof, to meet over-all essential civil and military needs.

(b ) Federal emergency operational responsibilities with respect to: highways, roads, streets, bridges, tunnels, and appurtenances; highway traffic regulation; allocation of air carrier aircraft for essential military and civilian operations; ships in coastal and intercoastal use and ocean shipping, ports and port facilities; and the Saint Lawrence Seaway; except those elements of each normally operated or controlled by the Department of Defense.

(c ) The production and distribution of all materials, the use of all production facilities, the control of all construction materials, and the furnishing of basic industrial services except the following:

(1) Production and distribution of and use of facilities for petroleum, solid fuels, gas, and electric power;

(2) Production, processing, distribution and storage of food resources and the use of food resource facilities for such production, processing, distribution, and storage;

(3) Domestic distribution of farm equipment and fertilizer;

(4) Use of communications services and facilities, housing, and lodging facilities, and health and welfare facilities;

(5) Production, and related distribution, of minerals defined as all raw materials of mineral origin (except petroleum, gas, solid fuels, and source materials as defined in the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, as amended) obtained by mining and like operations and processed through the stages specified, and at the facilities designated in an agreement between the Secretary of Commerce and the Secretary of the Interior as being within the emergency preparedness responsibilities of the Secretary of the Interior, and the construction and use of facilities designated as within the responsibilities of the Secretary of the Interior;

(6) Distribution of items in the supply systems of, or controlled by the Department of Defense and the Atomic Energy Commission, and

(7) Construction and use of civil aviation facilities.

(d) Fallout forecasting based on current weather data.

(e) Collection and reporting of census data for emergency planning purposes.

These plans and programs shall be designed to develop a state of readiness in those areas with respect to all degrees of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.

SEC. 10. Functional Guidance. The Secretary, in carrying out the functions assigned in this order, shall be guided by the following:

(a ) Interagency cooperation. The Secretary shall assume the initiative in developing joint plans for the coordination of transportation and production programs which involve other departments and agencies which have responsibilities for any segment of such activities. He shall utilize to the maximum those capabilities of other agencies qualified to perform or assist in the performance of assigned functions by contractual or other agreements.

(b ) Presidential coordination. The Director of the Office of Emergency Planning shall advise and assist the President in determining policy for, and assist him in, coordinating the performance of functions under this order with the total national preparedness program.

(c ) Emergency planning. Emergency plans and programs, and emergency organization structure required thereby, shall be developed as an integral part of the continuing activities of the Department of Commerce on the basis that it will have the responsibility for carrying out such programs during an emergency. The Secretary shall be prepared to implement all appropriate plans developed under this order. Modifications and temporary organizational changes, based on emergency conditions, will be in accordance with policy determination by the President.

SEC. 11. Emergency Actions. Nothing in this order shall be construed as conferring authority under Title III of the Federal Civil Defense Act of 1950, as amended, or otherwise, to put into effect any emergency plan, procedure, policy, program, or course of action prepared or developed pursuant to this order. Such authority is reserved to the President.


Need I go on...?


All the rest of the Orders you have quoted are all in relation to times of national emergency or war. Don't you think its better to have these Orders and Emergency Preparedness Plan in place and ready to go when an emergency or war comes along? Or would you - or rather the US citizens - rather see their country devolve into anarchy while plans are drawn up in time of emergency or war?

Its called "Emergency Preparedness" for a reason.

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And yet you and the others who post about these "suspicious" Orders here and on other sites are using the same fear-mongering to further your world-view.

And if you can't see the hypocrisy in that then you and the others really need to give your head a good shake.

One last point: Given that the US has technically been in a state of war for the last 5 or 6 years, isn't it interesting that not one of these Executive Orders or Emergency Preparedness plans have been enacted...?


Executive Order 11490 can be found here:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11490

It was signed into Law by Richard Nixon in 1969 and it actually revokes some of the orders mentioned above and in the article you've cited. Its interesting that all the conspiracy sites out there that harp on the Executive Orders listed above miss that fact (however, in fairness, I only found out about that when reading that Order as well, so, much as I'd like to, I can't really hold it against them)

The last section of EO 11490 states that it revokes the following EO's
SEC. 3015 Revoked Orders.
The following are hereby revoked:
(1) Defense Mobilization Order VI-2 of December 11, 1953.
(2) Defense Mobilization Order 1-12 of October 5, 1954.
(3) Executive Order No. 10312 of December 10, 1951.
(4) Executive Order No. 10346 of April 17, 1952.
(5) Executive Order No. 10997 of February 16, 1962.
(6) Executive Order No. 10998 of February 16, 1962.

(7) Executive Order No. 10999 of February 16, 1962.
(8) Executive Order No. 11000 of February 16, 1962.
(9) Executive Order No. 11001 of February 16, 1962.
(10) Executive Order No. 11002 of February 16, 1962.
(11) Executive Order No. 11003 of February 16, 1962.
(12) Executive Order No. 11004 of February 16, 1962.
(13) Executive Order No. 11005 of February 16, 1962.

(14) Executive Order No. 11087 of February 26, 1963.
(15) Executive Order No. 11088 of February 26, 1963.
(16) Executive Order No. 11089 of February 26, 1963.
(17) Executive Order No. 11090 of February 26, 1963.
(18) Executive Order No. 11091 of February 26, 1963.
(19) Executive Order No. 11092 of February 26, 1963.
(20) Executive Order No. 11093 of February 26, 1963.
(21) Executive Order No. 11094 of February 26, 1963.
(22) Executive Order No. 11095 of February 26, 1963.
(23) Executive Order No. 11310 of October 11, 1966.

The bold EO's above are ones that are mentioned and misrepresented on your cited sources and others throughout the Net that 11490 revokes.

A quick scan of 11490 (its a LONG document) reveals that it is combining all the above revoked orders into one order with some minor tweaking to take into account the changes and challenges the Nation faced at the time.

Executive Order 11490 was also revoked by Ronald Reagan in 1988 pursuant to Executive Order 12656:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12656

12656 basically does the same thing that 11490 did, refines the delegation of Emergency Preparedness Plans. Its interesting that Howrd J. Ruff doesn't seem to talk about that, nor do any of the other sites that claim to "expose" the "suspicious" Executive Orders.

12656 was amended in 1998 by Bil Clinton with Executive Order 13074 to include the following:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13074
(Establishing an Emergency Board To Investigate Disputes Between Certain Railroads Represented by the National Railway Labor Conference and Their Employees Represented by Certain Labor Organizations
Delivered on 9 February 1998.)

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to reflect the appropriate allocation of funding responsibilities for Noncombatant Evacuation Operations, it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12656 is amended by adding a new section 501(16) to read as follows:

"Subject to the direction of the President, and pursuant to procedures to be developed jointly by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State, be responsible for the deployment and use of military forces for the protection of United States citizens and nationals and, in connection therewith, designated other persons or categories of persons, in support of their evacuation from threatened areas overseas."

William J. Clinton
The White House,
February 9, 1998"


On October 8 2001, 12656 was again amended with Executive Order 13228 which established the Department of Homeland Security

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13228

I am not willing to discuss here the merits (or lack thereof) of that amendment.

February 28, 2003 saw EO 12656 further amended by EO 13286.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13286

What is surprising is that (at least as far as I know) all those conspiracy theorists out there who rail on and on about these "suspicious" Executive Orders - which have all been revoked, btw - don't seem to mention EO 13286.

13286 amends EO 12656 (as well as a host of 80+ other Executive Orders) by reassigning all the Emergency Preparedness responsibilities (as well as the delegated responsibilities in the other referenced Orders) to the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.


So if your "leader" was wrong about these executive orders, isn't it possible he was wrong about a lot of other things, too...?

Not that you'll ever admit that of course... your indoctrination is too deeply embedded.... rolleyes.gif


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:28 AM

Czero 101 on Dec 11 2008, 04:52 AM, said:

Seems the convicted child molester you so blindly follow doesn't have a clue about how Executive Orders work or what they say. These Executive Orders get brought up every now and then and all the "suspicious information" about them seems to all stem from the same misinterpretations:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2518518


Completely wrong.

This Order re-established the Federal Safety Council.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10990.htm




Not exactly... It covers the assignment of a Director who handles telecommunication issues for Governmental agencies.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10995.htm




Only in cases of national emergency or war.

This Order empowers the Secretary of the Interior to make Emergency Preparedness plans, but does not empower him to enact these plans.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10997.htm




Nope. This Order, similar to Order 10097, empowers the Secretary of Agriculture to prepare Emergency Preparedness plans that the President can enact in times of national emergency or war.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10998.htm




This orders empowers the Secretary of Commerce, to empower the Secretary to make Emergency Preparedness plans with respect to transportation, to be enacted by the President in times of national emergency or war only.

(Looks like you got your numbers mixed up - or whichever conspiracy site you copied your information from had them wrong. So I guess that answers the question of whether you've read them and where you got them... rolleyes.gif )

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/10999.htm


Need I go on...?


All the rest of the Orders you have quoted are all in relation to times of national emergency or war. Don't you think its better to have these Orders and Emergency Preparedness Plan in place and ready to go when an emergency or war comes along? Or would you - or rather the US citizens - rather see their country devolve into anarchy while plans are drawn up in time of emergency or war?

Its called "Emergency Preparedness" for a reason.



And yet you and the others who post about these "suspicious" Orders here and on other sites are using the same fear-mongering to further your world-view.

And if you can't see the hypocrisy in that then you and the others really need to give your head a good shake.

One last point: Given that the US has technically been in a state of war for the last 5 or 6 years, isn't it interesting that not one of these Executive Orders or Emergency Preparedness plans have been enacted...?

Executive Order 11490 can be found here:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11490

It was signed into Law by Richard Nixon in 1969 and it actually revokes some of the orders mentioned above and in the article you've cited. Its interesting that all the conspiracy sites out there that harp on the Executive Orders listed above miss that fact (however, in fairness, I only found out about that when reading that Order as well, so, much as I'd like to, I can't really hold it against them)

The last section of EO 11490 states that it revokes the following EO's
SEC. 3015 Revoked Orders.
The following are hereby revoked:
(1) Defense Mobilization Order VI-2 of December 11, 1953.
(2) Defense Mobilization Order 1-12 of October 5, 1954.
(3) Executive Order No. 10312 of December 10, 1951.
(4) Executive Order No. 10346 of April 17, 1952.
(5) Executive Order No. 10997 of February 16, 1962.
(6) Executive Order No. 10998 of February 16, 1962.

(7) Executive Order No. 10999 of February 16, 1962.
(8) Executive Order No. 11000 of February 16, 1962.
(9) Executive Order No. 11001 of February 16, 1962.
(10) Executive Order No. 11002 of February 16, 1962.
(11) Executive Order No. 11003 of February 16, 1962.
(12) Executive Order No. 11004 of February 16, 1962.
(13) Executive Order No. 11005 of February 16, 1962.

(14) Executive Order No. 11087 of February 26, 1963.
(15) Executive Order No. 11088 of February 26, 1963.
(16) Executive Order No. 11089 of February 26, 1963.
(17) Executive Order No. 11090 of February 26, 1963.
(18) Executive Order No. 11091 of February 26, 1963.
(19) Executive Order No. 11092 of February 26, 1963.
(20) Executive Order No. 11093 of February 26, 1963.
(21) Executive Order No. 11094 of February 26, 1963.
(22) Executive Order No. 11095 of February 26, 1963.
(23) Executive Order No. 11310 of October 11, 1966.

The bold EO's above are ones that are mentioned and misrepresented on your cited sources and others throughout the Net that 11490 revokes.

A quick scan of 11490 (its a LONG document) reveals that it is combining all the above revoked orders into one order with some minor tweaking to take into account the changes and challenges the Nation faced at the time.

Executive Order 11490 was also revoked by Ronald Reagan in 1988 pursuant to Executive Order 12656:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12656

12656 basically does the same thing that 11490 did, refines the delegation of Emergency Preparedness Plans. Its interesting that Howrd J. Ruff doesn't seem to talk about that, nor do any of the other sites that claim to "expose" the "suspicious" Executive Orders.

12656 was amended in 1998 by Bil Clinton with Executive Order 13074 to include the following:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13074
(Establishing an Emergency Board To Investigate Disputes Between Certain Railroads Represented by the National Railway Labor Conference and Their Employees Represented by Certain Labor Organizations
Delivered on 9 February 1998.)

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to reflect the appropriate allocation of funding responsibilities for Noncombatant Evacuation Operations, it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12656 is amended by adding a new section 501(16) to read as follows:

"Subject to the direction of the President, and pursuant to procedures to be developed jointly by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State, be responsible for the deployment and use of military forces for the protection of United States citizens and nationals and, in connection therewith, designated other persons or categories of persons, in support of their evacuation from threatened areas overseas."

William J. Clinton
The White House,
February 9, 1998"


On October 8 2001, 12656 was again amended with Executive Order 13228 which established the Department of Homeland Security

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13228

I am not willing to discuss here the merits (or lack thereof) of that amendment.

February 28, 2003 saw EO 12656 further amended by EO 13286.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13286

What is surprising is that (at least as far as I know) all those conspiracy theorists out there who rail on and on about these "suspicious" Executive Orders - which have all been revoked, btw - don't seem to mention EO 13286.

13286 amends EO 12656 (as well as a host of 80+ other Executive Orders) by reassigning all the Emergency Preparedness responsibilities (as well as the delegated responsibilities in the other referenced Orders) to the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

So if your "leader" was wrong about these executive orders, isn't it possible he was wrong about a lot of other things, too...?

Not that you'll ever admit that of course... your indoctrination is too deeply embedded.... rolleyes.gif


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:34 AM

IssaEl on Dec 10 2008, 09:28 PM, said:



As usual the only answers you can give are the ones pre-scripted for you by Dwight York and his flunkies. Heaven forbid you should post something that is actually your own opinion rolleyes.gif

So what exactly does that link have to do with the Executive Orders you leader seems to find so suspicious? huh.gif

By the way, if you were to do a little actual research you'd see that the claims your leader makes about the Executive Orders are not even his own claims, but ones that have been circulating the rumor mill / interwebs for years.


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 06:30 AM

frenat on Dec 11 2008, 03:10 AM, said:

They are grave liners.  If the government, FEMA, or some other vague group of nebulous meanies really had plans to off thousands of people, they would stock up on body bags, not bulky cumbersome plastic cartons.


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:10 AM

frenat on Dec 11 2008, 03:10 AM, said:

They are grave liners. If the government, FEMA, or some other vague group of nebulous meanies really had plans to off thousands of people, they would stock up on body bags, not bulky cumbersome plastic cartons.
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yeah, I agree. Genocide never seems to include the neat and tidy burial of the dead. However, I can imagine some type of crisis that might require the public respect and proper dealings with of (at least some of) the dead. However, even under that scenario, the vast majority of bodies still are just dumped in a big hole.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:21 AM

Cradle of Fish on Dec 11 2008, 06:30 AM, said:

Reason has no place in the conspiracy theory section. tongue.gif


lol, yeah. I guess thats what you are doing here...........bwanngga bwanngga boooo

I mean gee-wiz, why not just incriminate yourself by saying anyone who posts on an internet forum is an pee-brained midget?

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:21 PM

After even more research of my own on the matter, I yet again contacted someone involved with this, and this time the real company itself that has produced the burial vaults mentioned and shown in the video in my first post.

This is the answer I got from my inquire to Vantage Products:

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The property on Lions Club Road in Madison, Georgia is leased by Vantage Products.


The product stored on the property are standard burial vaults, please see our web page for information on this product - www.vantageproducts.com


The majority of cemeteries across the United States require the use of a burial vault when a body is interred.  The use of a burial vault, plastic or concrete, is to prevent the collapse of the ground in the cemetery and to protect the casket placed inside.


In the funeral and/or death care industry there is a common practice of people making their funeral arrangements prior to death.  Many people like to make their own selections for the casket and burial vaults that will be used at the time of their death. Once this selection has been made the local funeral home that has made the arrangements can purchase the burial vault product from Vantage Products and we will store it for them until that person dies.


We maintain detailed records of ownership of the products and require a certificate of ownership to be sent to us before products can be released. Additionally, we are annually audited by several states including Georgia to insure that we have all of the products that our records indicate and that are on file with each of the participating states.


These products are not owned by any one individual person, company or the government.  Additionally, there are only about 50,000 vaults in storage in Madison, no where near the quantity that is being discussed openly on the net.


In the United States there are approximately 1,300,000 deaths each year. Of those deaths there are about 900,000 in ground burials preformed every year.  Only a small percentage of those people have pre arranged there burial.


I hope this has answered you questions. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have additional questions.


So with that I consider my research into this matter concluded, and I settle with these answers provided as it makes perfect sense. I'm a bit annoyed at those so called Conspiracy Experts such as Alex Jones et al, whom give the impression of being real researches, but if they were they'd know what I've just posted here. Alex Jones himself mentioned Polyguard Vaults as the producer of these vaults, something which was wrong, and probably something he figured from just looking at their website and noticing the similarities. One quick phone to the actual company, which any serious researcher and journalist would have done immediately, would have been all needed to get some serious answers on this. I'm surprised he and others have not done so themselves, but oh well at least here I present you with the solution to this whole Fema Coffin issue, they are not even on "Fema property" as claimed by the conspirators, but actually in the storage facilities of the producer themself.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:30 PM

Well, that depends, these vaults are actually that - Vaults. And they are designed to keep away decomposition, to preserve the contents, and make sure the ground doesnt tumble inn on where they are buried etc, so the inside coffin will be taken good care of. So, as I mentioned, this would be very useful in cases of deaths of biological warfare and such, or diseases spread through other means that are highly contagious, to make sure it doesnt spread once buried. Though I'm pretty sure the answers I posted above are the real answers to this issue as I contacted two different producers of such vaults, one producing a similar produce, and the real producer which I quoted in my last post above.

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frenat on Dec 11 2008, 03:10 AM, said:

They are grave liners.  If the government, FEMA, or some other vague group of nebulous meanies really had plans to off thousands of people, they would stock up on body bags, not bulky cumbersome plastic cartons.



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