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Posted 01 January 2009 - 12:16 PM

Image credit: Kara Pietrina
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Peter Fotis Kapnistos: We were sailing to the isle of the Apocalypse. Patmos is that small Greek island of the Mediterranean Sea where almost two thousand years ago in a misty cave, St John envisioned the Revelation of Jesus Christ - the last book of the Bible.

I had arrived by sea with two friends of mine, Vranas, an expert mural painter and his wife, Kara, to explore some radioactive springs beyond the "Furnace Islands Archipelago" just north of Patmos and a smaller islet known as Fourni. An unforeseen series of events suddenly changed our travel plans but allowed us to actually photograph the "glow" or radial signature of what appeared to be a real-time HAARP broadcast from the British military base in Cyprus.  
Below are some chronological details of our account and a brief description of the so-called British military HAARP device in Southern Cyprus:

• Monday, 17 October 2005 - An earthquake measuring around magnitude 6.0 rocked Greece's eastern Aegean islands at about 05:45 GMT, but no injuries or serious damage were reported. The epicenter was a short distance from where we were. On the same day, bird flu was reported in the same area of Greece. The country's agriculture ministry said a form of the bird flu virus had been found on a farm on the Aegean Sea, just a short nautical distance from where we were staying.

• Thursday, 20 October 2005 - Another earthquake measuring 6.0 on the Richter scale was recorded approximately 45 minutes after midnight, in the sea of the eastern Aegean islands where we were located, spreading fear and panic. The quake was of the same magnitude and had the same epicenter as the previous tremor recorded on Monday.

• Friday, 21 October 2005 - Throughout the day we observed and photographed an uninterrupted sequence of aircraft leaving streaky contrails in the sky directly over the earthquake zone. The contrails did not dissipate, but instead grew larger, in criss-cross "Chemtrail" patterns that soon merged together and become hazy, cloudy masses. The unusual flight activity continued non-stop during the entire day. We sometimes observed up to four or five aircraft at a time, moving over the earthquake epicenter while "seeding" contrails that gradually blossomed into amazingly large artificial clouds. At about 18:00 we briefly observed and photographed peculiar lines of light or radii coming up out of the sea from the direction of Cyprus, southeast of Fourni. It is important to note that the sun was at the opposite horizon when our photos were taken. What looked like radiating lines of faint sunlight diverging from the center of dusk were certainly something else, because the sun was actually setting directly behind us in the west, not even in the general direction of our camera's view. What caused the eerie golden spikes or rays of southeastern light? We can only guess it was electromagnetic radiation, or photosensitive particles reacting to the twilight polarization, from some unnoticed transmitter - natural or otherwise - in the direction of Cyprus. Our photos indicate that the spikes or beams of energy rising from the sea did in fact "bounce" or rebound off the man-made contrail clouds and seemed to return to the earth again, for unknown reasons. The radii of light were not visible during the following days, and the aircraft flyover rate returned to the normal eastern Aegean levels.



Aircraft were laying contrails in the sky directly over the Aegean earthquake zone. When the bottom photos were taken, the sun was actually setting directly behind us in the west, not even in the general direction of our camera's view.



Above: Chemtrail "seeding" is visible at top left of frame with eerie rays of light rising from the Aegean Sea. Below: The same image enhanced to detect ray edges.





Above: Weird rays of light rise from the Aegean Sea and "bounce" off man-made Chemtrail clouds visible at top right of frame. Below: The same image enhanced to detect ray edges.



Not real sunrays. Not real clouds.

CHEMTRAIL spraying programs, which apparently are being conducted on a worldwide basis, may have originated as experiments in weather modification by "Cloud Seeding." But as more people take notice, they are questioning the health and psychological effects of whatever it is that's happening in the sky. Concerns are now growing over the disruption of migratory patterns and the spraying of aerosols that could promote the development of pathogens (such as bird flu virus) at high altitudes. After the Asian earthquake tsunami and hurricane Katrina, many feel that weather modification is fast becoming a "Weather War" and the time has finally come to bring the matter to the attention of the public.

HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project, a joint effort of the U.S. Air Force and the navy at a remote base near Gakona, Alaska. HAARP generates million watt-phased pulses, which in turn generate extremely low frequency (ELF) waves for submarine communication and tomography. Its critics have argued that it may also be used as a mind-control/weather-control weapon of mass destruction. The British Army is currently experimenting with an immensely expensive ultra-sophisticated version of HAARP in their large army base at Greek Cyprus. Greek Cypriots have recently rioted outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus, protesting against the use of 190-foot microwave towers by the British Army and NATO to broadcast high-power microwaves. The British have allegedly stated that their pulse modulation program is targeted on Iran and Iraq and that the British version has the ability - like HAARP and a similar system in Norway - "to bounce its millions of Watts of 8MHz transmissions off the ionosphere to control the weather, destroy communication networks, and to violently upset whole populations by inducing ELF behavioral changes, neurological changes, and physical trauma."

"Our photos indicate that the spikes or beams of energy rising from the sea did in fact 'bounce' or rebound off the man-made contrail clouds and seemed to return to the earth again, for unknown reasons."

• What happened? It seems that the British HAARP device (powered from the British military base in Cyprus) may have a fatal flaw: Its pulse modulations can actually become "visible" when exposed to certain atmospheric disturbances. It appears that twilight (when the sun is below the horizon) can sometimes restrict the HAARP particle vibrations to one direction (polarization), allowing its broadcast waves to briefly be seen as "faint rays" or radii of reflected light coming up from the direction of Cyprus. (Auroral = luminous phenomenon, usually of streamers of light in the night sky.) Indeed, if even Sunday tourists can sometimes get snapshots of HAARP million watt phased pulses in the twilight plasma, it would be a very serious setback for the British Army. Because computer enhanced photos of HAARP broadcasts could theoretically be analyzed by adversaries to reveal discharge direction, wave amplitude, or other complex activity for the purpose of developing powerful interference systems to frustrate and defeat future HAARP applications. Correcting the telltale flaw could cost many millions, dangerously waste time, or prove to be impossible.

• Who took the heat? Monday, 31 October 2005 - A few days after the above photos were released, a British government official was under pressure to quit over claims he may have broken ministerial rules in connection with a DNA testing firm. The actual particulars are not relevant here, because the covert operational details of HAARP are top secret and will probably never be made public. However, if and when fatal flaws are discovered, it is almost certain that a corresponding ministerial official will be circumstantially censured or even pressured to step down.

On the same day, the European Commission said Greek authorities would lift a ban on the movement of poultry from the eastern Aegean region after a second and final set of tests found no presence of the bird flu virus. The unusual flight activity seen over the Aegean earthquake zone may have been part of a demonstration of fourth generation jets, during which Greece formally submitted its order for 30 Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 52+ jets from the U.S. to address air defense needs over the next 15 years. The inspection of 30 new jets for the NATO Aegean corridor may have been more than enough reason to perform a live HAARP test.

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 04:48 PM

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I had to read this a couple of times to actually make sure it was as ludicrous as the first impression gave. It is very obvious that Mr. Kapnistos is not very good with science, atmospheric physics and RF. It is rare that one sees such a poorly researched article, good job!

Bird flu, contrails, HAARP all in one big, messy mix. The only thing missing would be LHC...

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 02:00 AM

badeskov on Jan 1 2009, 05:48 PM, said:

I had to read this a couple of times to actually make sure it was as ludicrous as the first impression gave. It is very obvious that Mr. Kapnistos is not very good with science, atmospheric physics and RF. It is rare that one sees such a poorly researched article, good job!

Bird flu, contrails, HAARP all in one big, messy mix. The only thing missing would be LHC...

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Good Lord, badeskov! For a government agent who can "get your facts first"  you sure are rather unobservant. You read the article a couple of times? You left out the earthquake (a couple of times)! The British stated they are able to bounce millions of Watts of 8MHz transmissions off the ionosphere. If the ionosphere is seeded with chemical spray (containing amino acids) the bouncing off clouds or irradiating can produce (viral) biomolecules. Um... What do you suppose the pictures are, forged photoshop scenes?  sleepy.gif




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Posted 02 January 2009 - 02:25 AM

NexHorus on Jan 2 2009, 03:00 AM, said:

Good Lord, badeskov! For a government agent who can "get your facts first"  you sure are rather unobservant. You read the article a couple of times? You left out the earthquake (a couple of times)! The British stated they are able to bounce millions of Watts of 8MHz transmissions off the ionosphere. If the ionosphere is seeded with chemical spray (containing amino acids) the bouncing off clouds or irradiating can produce (viral) biomolecules. Um... What do you suppose the pictures are, forged photoshop scenes?  sleepy.gif


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Posted 02 January 2009 - 05:14 PM

NexHorus on Jan 1 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

Good Lord, badeskov! For a government agent who can "get your facts first"  you sure are rather unobservant. You read the article a couple of times? You left out the earthquake (a couple of times)! The British stated they are able to bounce millions of Watts of 8MHz transmissions off the ionosphere. If the ionosphere is seeded with chemical spray (containing amino acids) the bouncing off clouds or irradiating can produce (viral) biomolecules. Um... What do you suppose the pictures are, forged photoshop scenes?  sleepy.gif


You are absolutely right, I did indeed leave out the earthquake part in my post, my fault. Not that it makes the article less absurd.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 06:08 PM

badeskov on Jan 2 2009, 06:14 PM, said:

You are absolutely right, I did indeed leave out the earthquake part in my post, my fault. Not that it makes the article less absurd.

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Not your fault. But a fault line, nonetheless.  I recall that about a year ago authorities were spraying pheromones over California to eliminate a moth that was damaging crops. People complained that it could affect humans. Yesterday I read on a science website that US males are becoming more effeminate due to pollution. The Pentagon once considered producing a "gay bomb" that would make soldiers put down their weapons and want to have sex instead. I wonder how and where they tested that. By the way, if you do have a background in science and know what the story behind HAARP is, please share it with us, Don't keep it to yourself!   grin2.gif  



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Posted 02 January 2009 - 07:50 PM

NexHorus on Jan 2 2009, 11:08 AM, said:

Not your fault. But a fault line, nonetheless.  I recall that about a year ago authorities were spraying pheromones over California to eliminate a moth that was damaging crops. People complained that it could affect humans. Yesterday I read on a science website that US males are becoming more effeminate due to pollution. The Pentagon once considered producing a "gay bomb" that would make soldiers put down their weapons and want to have sex instead. I wonder how and where they tested that. By the way, if you do have a background in science and know what the story behind HAARP is, please share it with us, Don't keep it to yourself!   grin2.gif


Oh, there has been many odd experiments and dusting happens regularly in California. For instance, they have been very vigorous in spraying to limit the mosquitoes that carry the West Nile Virus. So there is always questions on how it will affect humans. Furthermore, we are becoming more and more affected by pollutants from everywhere. even just plastic products containing fire retardants has shown to give us problems.

Regarding HAARP, I actually do have a background in science and unfortunately do know something about HAARP, what it does and why it is not capable of what it is alleged to be doing (weather control, mind control, earth quakes and what have you). There has been several threads on this in the science section and somehow HAARP seems to pop up once in a while. I guess it looks mysterious and sinister to some.  

A couple of links to earlier threads:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2324398
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2323184

The second link is probably the most interesting for you to read to get some information. But if you have any specific questions regarding HAARP, please do feel free to ask original.gif

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Edited for typos.

Edited by badeskov, 02 January 2009 - 08:35 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 11:35 PM

Pure bunk. Sorry.

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 06:21 PM

badeskov on Jan 2 2009, 08:50 PM, said:

Oh, there has been many odd experiments and dusting happens regularly in California. For instance, they have been very vigorous in spraying to limit the mosquitoes that carry the West Nile Virus. So there is always questions on how it will affect humans. Furthermore, we are becoming more and more affected by pollutants from everywhere. even just plastic products containing fire retardants has shown to give us problems.

Regarding HAARP, I actually do have a background in science and unfortunately do know something about HAARP, what it does and why it is not capable of what it is alleged to be doing (weather control, mind control, earth quakes and what have you). There has been several threads on this in the science section and somehow HAARP seems to pop up once in a while. I guess it looks mysterious and sinister to some.  

A couple of links to earlier threads:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2324398
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2323184

The second link is probably the most interesting for you to read to get some information. But if you have any specific questions regarding HAARP, please do feel free to ask original.gif

Cheers,
Badeskov

Edited for typos.



Thanks for the info and the links. But the big question still remains: What are the strange light rays in the photos? We can't just ignore them, can we?  geek.gif





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Posted 04 January 2009 - 06:37 PM

NexHorus on Jan 4 2009, 10:21 AM, said:

Thanks for the info and the links. But the big question still remains: What are the strange light rays in the photos? We can't just ignore them, can we?  geek.gif


It's natural defraction of sunlight through the various layers of the atmosphere. There is nothing mysterious or sinister about it.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 02:36 AM

Bunk.  Not much in that post made sense

The rays are anticrepuscular rays http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6..._from_above.jpg

Seen opposite the sun in the sky, an effect of perspective.

I wont even start on the contrails (NOT chemtrails, that is nonsense)

Edited by Torgo, 05 January 2009 - 02:38 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2009 - 01:06 PM

Torgo on Jan 4 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

Bunk.  Not much in that post made sense

The rays are anticrepuscular rays http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6..._from_above.jpg

Seen opposite the sun in the sky, an effect of perspective.

I wont even start on the contrails (NOT chemtrails, that is nonsense)


Thanks for he antirepuscular link thumbsup.gif And I agree, not much in that column made any sense whatsoever. You would think that a columnist would have some professional pride, however, for some reason or other a few of those publishing here seems to have thrown all pride overboard and tend to peddle senseless bunk (and at least one is in my opinion trying to peddle his books based on such nonsense).

Sad indeed.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:52 AM

badeskov on Jan 5 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

Thanks for he antirepuscular link thumbsup.gif And I agree, not much in that column made any sense whatsoever. You would think that a columnist would have some professional pride, however, for some reason or other a few of those publishing here seems to have thrown all pride overboard and tend to peddle senseless bunk (and at least one is in my opinion trying to peddle his books based on such nonsense).

Sad indeed.

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I found this you guys:

Crepuscular rays appear to converge on the sun, anticrepuscular rays converge in the opposite direction. When ordinary crepuscular rays are visible, turn around and search for their opposite numbers. (http://www.atoptics....ptics/anti1.htm) However, the above report makes no mention of crepuscular rays but says that the sun had already set in the west.

I also found this:

Until recently, earthquake lights were folklore. For centuries people have reported rare flashes, glows and various fireworks associated with large earthquakes, but science can't do much with eyewitness stories. After lights were photographed in Japan during a month-long earthquake swarm in the mid-1960s, and other careful observations were made elsewhere in the world, earthquake specialists had something to chew on. Earthquake lights occur before, during and after earthquakes. They are cool and quiet, colored white or blue or red. They are usually dim, but sometimes are brighter than moonlight. (http://geology.about.../a/EQlights.htm)

Could the earthquakes have caused the lights?


In any case, let's not forget that HAARP stands for "High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project." It is a well-known fact that "auroral activity" light displays in the sky typically occur in the ionosphere. (http://www.spacew.com/www/aurora.php)

You consider the article sad and pure bunk but a final point to consider is why people would be rioting outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus - if there is nothing mysterious or sinister about it.

"Greek Cypriots have recently rioted outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus, protesting against the use of 190-foot microwave towers by the British Army and NATO to broadcast high-power microwaves."

It seems likely that the British and US military both would have debunkers standing by to deal with unauthorized disclosures. But effective debunking has to be good mannered and convincing, not laced with off-the-cuff insulting remarks. (hint)  innocent.gif

Edited by NexHorus, 06 January 2009 - 01:56 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2009 - 03:48 AM

NexHorus on Jan 5 2009, 06:52 PM, said:

I found this you guys:

Crepuscular rays appear to converge on the sun, anticrepuscular rays converge in the opposite direction. When ordinary crepuscular rays are visible, turn around and search for their opposite numbers. (http://www.atoptics....ptics/anti1.htm) However, the above report makes no mention of crepuscular rays but says that the sun had already set in the west.


Nature can be quite amazing, don't you think?! Without having to invent stuff wink2.gif

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I also found this:

Until recently, earthquake lights were folklore. For centuries people have reported rare flashes, glows and various fireworks associated with large earthquakes, but science can't do much with eyewitness stories. After lights were photographed in Japan during a month-long earthquake swarm in the mid-1960s, and other careful observations were made elsewhere in the world, earthquake specialists had something to chew on. Earthquake lights occur before, during and after earthquakes. They are cool and quiet, colored white or blue or red. They are usually dim, but sometimes are brighter than moonlight. (http://geology.about.../a/EQlights.htm)


They are quite interesting and probably has something to do with charges building up due to friction between tectonic plates original.gif

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Could the earthquakes have caused the lights?


No, they would look different.

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In any case, let's not forget that HAARP stands for "High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project." It is a well-known fact that "auroral activity" light displays in the sky typically occur in the ionosphere. (http://www.spacew.com/www/aurora.php)


Indeed it does, but that doesn't mean anything. Secondly, the amount of energy deposited in the ionosphere by the HAARP antenna array is minuscule compared to what comes from space. There is simply no comparison. HAARP is a pebble gun in that respect.

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You consider the article sad and pure bunk but a final point to consider is why people would be rioting outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus - if there is nothing mysterious or sinister about it.

"Greek Cypriots have recently rioted outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus, protesting against the use of 190-foot microwave towers by the British Army and NATO to broadcast high-power microwaves."


We have no idea what instigated the riots or if people actually did riot at all. We have no date or anything to check it against. It could just as well all be in the columnist's head (God knows there is plenty of room - it certainly isn't facts taking up space). But since you brought up that particular paragraph, please allow me to dissect it now we are at it (just to exemplify):

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HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project, a joint effort of the U.S. Air Force and the navy at a remote base near Gakona, Alaska. HAARP generates million watt-phased pulses, which in turn generate extremely low frequency (ELF) waves for submarine communication and tomography. Its critics have argued that it may also be used as a mind-control/weather-control weapon of mass destruction. The British Army is currently experimenting with an immensely expensive ultra-sophisticated version of HAARP in their large army base at Greek Cyprus. Greek Cypriots have recently rioted outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus, protesting against the use of 190-foot microwave towers by the British Army and NATO to broadcast high-power microwaves. The British have allegedly stated that their pulse modulation program is targeted on Iran and Iraq and that the British version has the ability - like HAARP and a similar system in Norway - "to bounce its millions of Watts of 8MHz transmissions off the ionosphere to control the weather, destroy communication networks, and to violently upset whole populations by inducing ELF behavioral changes, neurological changes, and physical trauma."


This whole section is one huge mix of contradictions, misconceptions, wrong facts and fluffy words. I have no idea which books the author is trying to peddle, but whatever it is it has nothing to do with the truth. Piecewise we find (bolding mine):

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HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project, a joint effort of the U.S. Air Force and the navy at a remote base near Gakona, Alaska


No, it is a civilian run program funded by DARPA (amongst others). The military is taking care of the logistics, not much else (besides funding).

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HAARP generates million watt-phased pulses, which in turn generate extremely low frequency (ELF) waves for submarine communication and tomography.

  
Pure nonsense. HAARP does not generate any ELF (extremely low frequency) signals. Antennas for that are long wires on telephone poles and not the dipoles that HAARP uses. I can't be any more clear. It is utter bunk. It is not physically viable.

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Its critics have argued that it may also be used as a mind-control/weather-control weapon of mass destruction. The British Army is currently experimenting with an immensely expensive ultra-sophisticated version of HAARP in their large army base at Greek Cyprus. Greek Cypriots have recently rioted outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus, protesting against the use of 190-foot microwave towers by the British Army and NATO to broadcast high-power microwaves.

    
More BS. We have no idea of any riots actually occured or the author is just grabbing previous events to attract attention. Obviously the author has no intention of showing up to present us with a defense for this nonsense, which I clearly understand. It is rare that one sees shoddy work so perfected that it could be called art.

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The British have allegedly stated that their pulse modulation program is targeted on Iran and Iraq and that the British version has the ability - like HAARP and a similar system in Norway - "to bounce its millions of Watts of 8MHz transmissions off the ionosphere to control the weather, destroy communication networks, and to violently upset whole populations by inducing ELF behavioral changes, neurological changes, and physical trauma."

  
And this is just scaremongering with no basis in reality. And deeply contradictory. The author claims ELF is used for mind control, yet states the signal frequency is 8MHz. That doesn't make sense. 8MHz is not ELF. Just shows that he has no idea of radio frequency signals, their capabilities and classifications at all. None.

Secondly, those millions of watts, completely insignificant in all respects. We are getting much more juice from all over the place, eve your local TV transmitter.  

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It seems likely that the British and US military both would have debunkers standing by to deal with unauthorized disclosures. But effective debunking has to be good mannered and convincing, not laced with off-the-cuff insulting remarks. (hint)  innocent.gif


No need for anybody to be debunking. The author of this did an excellent job of that himself, to the point of making a clown of himself. If you just know a bit about radio frequency signals, columns like this would literally hurt your eyes. It is sad, it is pathetic and the proliferation is astounding. Effective debunking can be many things, but this has nothing to do with debunking. What is truly insulting is that such thrash is actually published. And it is thrash, pure and simple. I am sure if the author actually had his heart in this, he'd be here now to mount a defense (which he cannot).

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:22 PM

badeskov on Jan 6 2009, 04:48 AM, said:

Nature can be quite amazing, don't you think?! Without having to invent stuff wink2.gif



They are quite interesting and probably has something to do with charges building up due to friction between tectonic plates original.gif



No, they would look different.



Indeed it does, but that doesn't mean anything. Secondly, the amount of energy deposited in the ionosphere by the HAARP antenna array is minuscule compared to what comes from space. There is simply no comparison. HAARP is a pebble gun in that respect.



We have no idea what instigated the riots or if people actually did riot at all. We have no date or anything to check it against. It could just as well all be in the columnist's head (God knows there is plenty of room - it certainly isn't facts taking up space). But since you brought up that particular paragraph, please allow me to dissect it now we are at it (just to exemplify):



This whole section is one huge mix of contradictions, misconceptions, wrong facts and fluffy words. I have no idea which books the author is trying to peddle, but whatever it is it has nothing to do with the truth. Piecewise we find (bolding mine):



No, it is a civilian run program funded by DARPA (amongst others). The military is taking care of the logistics, not much else (besides funding).


  
Pure nonsense. HAARP does not generate any ELF (extremely low frequency) signals. Antennas for that are long wires on telephone poles and not the dipoles that HAARP uses. I can't be any more clear. It is utter bunk. It is not physically viable.


    
More BS. We have no idea of any riots actually occured or the author is just grabbing previous events to attract attention. Obviously the author has no intention of showing up to present us with a defense for this nonsense, which I clearly understand. It is rare that one sees shoddy work so perfected that it could be called art.


  
And this is just scaremongering with no basis in reality. And deeply contradictory. The author claims ELF is used for mind control, yet states the signal frequency is 8MHz. That doesn't make sense. 8MHz is not ELF. Just shows that he has no idea of radio frequency signals, their capabilities and classifications at all. None.

Secondly, those millions of watts, completely insignificant in all respects. We are getting much more juice from all over the place, eve your local TV transmitter.  



No need for anybody to be debunking. The author of this did an excellent job of that himself, to the point of making a clown of himself. If you just know a bit about radio frequency signals, columns like this would literally hurt your eyes. It is sad, it is pathetic and the proliferation is astounding. Effective debunking can be many things, but this has nothing to do with debunking. What is truly insulting is that such thrash is actually published. And it is thrash, pure and simple. I am sure if the author actually had his heart in this, he'd be here now to mount a defense (which he cannot).

Cheers,
Badeskov



Badeskov, you wrote: "We have no idea what instigated the riots or if people actually did riot at all. We have no date or anything to check it against. It could just as well all be in the columnist's head..."

Well, all you have to do is Google it. There are thousands of references. Here are a few with their links:



Cyprus: Riots outside British military base
By Richard Tyler

Britain’s plan to build six massive radio antennae at its Akrotiri military base on Cyprus has sparked protests by local residents.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1421689.stm

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British police hurt in Cyprus riot

Last Updated: 11:25AM BST 04 Jul 2001

UP to 40 British military policemen were injured when rioters stormed a UK base on the island of Cyprus.
About 500 Greek Cypriot demonstrators invaded the Akrotiri base and freed a local MP from its police station before rampaging through a building site and setting vehicles alight.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1332797/Br...yprus-riot.html

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Cyprus army base protests condemned



Twelve vehicles belonging to British forces were set on fire

The Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, has condemned violence that left 40 police officers injured at a British military base in Cyprus. Eight are still in hospital after up to 1,000 people rioted on Tuesday following the arrest of a Cypriot MP, who had been protesting at plans to put up a radio mast near the base at Akrotiri.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1421689.stm


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Cyprus and Britain condemn riot at army base

"The Cypriot government have been consulted about these changes ... and a huge amount of effort has gone in to consult the local people and to satisfy them that these transmissions are safe."

The trouble was sparked by a demonstration against the construction of new communication antennae in an environmentally sensitive area.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/jul/04/cyprus1

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That's 1 crow for you to eat.



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You also wrote: "Pure nonsense. HAARP does not generate any ELF (extremely low frequency) signals."


But the official US HAARP website certainly contradicts your so-called facts:


http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/


"Development of technology to use effects produced through ionospheric interactions. One example of this is learning how to generate new signals in the ELF range for the real application of subsurface communications." (http://www.haarp.ala.../haarp/faq.html) "ELF signals are generated in the ionosphere at an altitude of around 100 km."


That's 2 crows for you to eat. Yummie.


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You claim: "We are getting much more juice from all over the place, even your local TV transmitter."

But the same official website says: "The HF transmitter system is able to produce approximately 3.6 million Watts of radio frequency power."

Does your local TV transmitter produce millions of watts, Badeskov?

"As a result, approximately 10 million Watts of prime power will be required when the transmitter system is operating at full power."


10 million. Um... What's for dessert, after the end of the meal?


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You insiste that HAARP is nothing more than RF radio frequency. But here is what the official site says:

"However, weak and repeatable optical emissions have been observed using HAARP (and reported in the scientific literature) using very sensitive cameras."

Indeed, repeatable optical emissions are the name of the HAARP game.



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"Optical emissions have been observed using HAARP in the scientific literature." I wonder where they got that crazy idea? Because Badeskov (et al) says it isn't so!


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When the Manhatten Project was in full swing, people like you were so sure the scientists were only making "electric rockets." Today we know better.
HAARP will allow attackers to release biological weapons without violating air space. "Safe molecules" are seeded by jets over the Atlantic for example. When the clouds drift over populated areas, HAARP (or whatever they will finally call it) will irradiate the molecules, spontaneously transforming them into pathogens. Cool, isn't it? I can assure you that Russia, China, (or a rogue state) will not stop this military activity because you don't believe it! The cat's out of the bag. Denial does nothing to prevent it.


You have fallen seriously behind in your research Badeskov. But it's obviously not like you to say "I was wrong."



You wrote: "It is rare that one sees shoddy work so perfected that it could be called art." Don't you wish you could get away with that! Because your arguments are not based on the facts. Your info amounts to disinformation. You must be gaining weight, Badeskov. Haven't you eaten enough crow? But I do admire your serious attitude. Only a self-centered teenager can sit up all night in his bedroom and churn out disinformation with the conviction of a pseudo-scientist. Who did you say you worked for, Radio Shack?  ph34r.gif









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