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[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Repoman on Jan 27 2009, 08:03 PM, said:

Thanks for the introduction - is there anything I can do for you?

Sure.

Thanks man!

[Kevin7557]

LOL doc chilax. They voted cause he was black just like I am sure there are plenty of white people who voted for McCain cause he was white or some other white canadate.

[Repoman]

Dr. Peter Venkman on Jan 27 2009, 08:00 PM, said:

I don't care why you think he was elected. I'm curious as to where you got your statistics man, thats all. Quit actin like a tough guy man. What are you trying to prove?

Google for 2008 primary demographics. I apologize if the preceding sentence sounded "tough".

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Repoman on Jan 28 2009, 07:15 AM, said:

Google for 2008 primary demographics. I apologize if the preceding sentence sounded "tough".

Umm... yeah... thats what i googled for.. Guess what I didn't find... your statistics that you keep throwing around. I found some stats for a few individual states such as south carolina, which look very close to your stats. I think thts what you found too, which is in no way indicitive of the entire primary.

If you found these stats, once again, I ask you... can I have the link? Cite your source man. It's on you to do so, and not anyone else.

Thanks in advance man.

[Repoman]

Dr. Peter Venkman on Jan 28 2009, 09:11 AM, said:

Umm... yeah... thats what i googled for.. Guess what I didn't find... your statistics that you keep throwing around. I found some stats for a few individual states such as south carolina, which look very close to your stats. I think thts what you found too, which is in no way indicitive of the entire primary.

If you found these stats, once again, I ask you... can I have the link? Cite your source man. It's on you to do so, and not anyone else.

Thanks in advance man.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660890
4th link down in Google results. Next time call Geek-Squad instead of actin' all tough an sheet.

There are other numbers that give the percentage nationwide and, of course, there are differences in the exact numbers.

Edited by Repoman, 28 January 2009 - 07:13 PM.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Repoman on Jan 28 2009, 02:12 PM, said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660890
4th link down in Google results. Next time call Geek-Squad instead of actin' all tough an sheet.

There are other numbers that give the percentage nationwide and, of course, there are differences in the exact numbers.

Those are exit polls. Exit polls are not indicitive of actual voting data. If they were, John Kerry would have been president the last four years.

Edited by Dr. Peter Venkman, 28 January 2009 - 07:31 PM.

[Repoman]

Dr. Peter Venkman on Jan 28 2009, 02:30 PM, said:

Those are exit polls. Exit polls are not indicitive of actual voting data. If they were, John Kerry would have been president the last four years.

So you have actually been asking for the link to the secret database that matches voter registration cards with the person's race with the RFID chip secretly implanted in everyone's brain that links that person with how they actually cast their vote.

[Kevin7557]

Repoman on Jan 28 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

So you have actually been asking for the link to the secret database that matches voter registration cards with the person's race with the RFID chip secretly implanted in everyone's brain that links that person with how they actually cast their vote.

Ha we aren't stupid enough to publish that information. We aren't the idiots that handle cover ups. LOL those guys are morons.

Edited by Kevin7557, 28 January 2009 - 08:33 PM.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Repoman on Jan 28 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

So you have actually been asking for the link to the secret database that matches voter registration cards with the person's race with the RFID chip secretly implanted in everyone's brain that links that person with how they actually cast their vote.

My point is that you don't have any conclusive evidence for your claims. Bottom line. Exit polls are not accurate, as we've seen in the past.

Sorry.

[MrRandomGuy]

If Obama were 100% white he still would have beaten Hillary in the primaries.  He slammed Hillary in the debate processes (at least the couple of debates I saw.)

Due to Obama's liberal views, and the majority of the public disgruntled with President Bush's policies, he still would have gotten elected if he were 100% white.  It might not have been as big of a landslide, but he would have still won.

[Kevin7557]

Dr. Peter Venkman on Jan 28 2009, 04:18 PM, said:

My point is that you don't have any conclusive evidence for your claims. Bottom line. Exit polls are not accurate, as we've seen in the past.

Sorry.

Dude and don't take this the wrong way, but that is asinine in both senses of the word along with absurd. While the information may not 100 percent accurate it is extremely hard to find such evidence as everything that involves humans has a margin of error. To discredit information/evidence which is valid because it has a margin of error is absurd. He has proven his point and now as regular debate fashion goes you must now present evidence or a reasonable argument that contradicts his statement and evidence or concede defeat in the matter with honor.

Edited by Kevin7557, 29 January 2009 - 01:41 AM.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Kevin7557 on Jan 28 2009, 08:39 PM, said:

Dude and don't take this the wrong way, but that is asinine in both senses of the word along with absurd. While the information may not 100 percent accurate it is extremely hard to find such evidence as everything that involves humans has a margin of error. To discredit information/evidence which is valid because it has a margin of error is absurd. He has proven his point and now as regular debate fashion goes you must now present evidence or a reasonable argument that contradicts his statement and evidence or concede defeat in the matter with honor.

Here- http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,...1851287,00.html

One example as to how exit polling is inaccurate particularly when it comes to race. the Bradley Effect is a well known subject and was discussed heavily before the election.

Here's the issue with the exit poll data that has been presented. If it has not been corrected to show the effects of actual voting data, as it should be, then this data is indeed inaccurate.

[peter leonard gates]

Godsnmbr1 on Jan 22 2009, 06:09 PM, said:

I doubt it.  People wanted to feel good about themselves, which is why we all gave Obama the benefit of the doubt at first.  Like some sort of nationwide self-delusion.  I don't think a white candidate would have made it through the scrutiny of our cynicism.

At least there's a chance he'll reverse the USA's leading role in destruction of the environment. And he gave Aretha a gig. I'll put that another way: I am totally impressed that Aretha sang at his inauguration. He has surpassed every USA President in that department and also, I am not aware that he has done anything that makes him indictable for war crimes. He has plenty of time yet though............

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Kevin7557 on Jan 28 2009, 08:39 PM, said:

Dude and don't take this the wrong way, but that is asinine in both senses of the word along with absurd. While the information may not 100 percent accurate it is extremely hard to find such evidence as everything that involves humans has a margin of error. To discredit information/evidence which is valid because it has a margin of error is absurd. He has proven his point and now as regular debate fashion goes you must now present evidence or a reasonable argument that contradicts his statement and evidence or concede defeat in the matter with honor.

Furthermore, based upon the demographics from his own source the average percentage of black democrats that voted in the primaries is 19.2% i'm sorry but that isn't enough for them to have won th primary for Obama, even if they voted 100% in his favor. (They didn't. That data wasn't even collected in some cases. Another indication as to why exit polls are not all that accurate. The avg percentage from locations that did collect it was 82.3%) Any way you slice it according to his own data. he is wrong wrong wrong. Couldn't be more wrong.
I think the issue here, is that Repoman looked at the stats for S. Carolina or some other state, and went ahead and applied it to the rest of the primaries.
Not very accurate to say th least.

g'night

[Enigmatic Ghost]

The U.S. Precedential Office is a Four Year Ring, Baby! And you as the Prez cannot take a hell of a beating from every side you best walk away, this has been proven many times over and that was is still bleeding out…

The People are going to have to save their own Necks, and they know it, leadership comes in and pulls all the ropes tight, but people here should have been creating victory gardens and helping out every house hold, but they were doe eyes in the head lights and wallowed in the Banking systems sick mud wallows called credit card deals and special rates, people dove into the banks pockets and the only way it can turn around if the People pull their heads out, and Help each other just as they did in hard times in the U.S. and burn the Banking Higher Ups right into the ground and berry them with the Privet jests and all, you know Tar and Feather their assess.. The People are who are going to save the People…

My Eyes, My interest is in watching upon how Obama handles the Lobbyist in the ring.   Will he Kick them down or buckle and become spongy,  of course nothing like Goergy was, (G.W. Bush not G. Washington), I see he is a very intelligent man but it is only the dance within the Ring, a few jabs so what!!  My Grandmother jabs has one hell of a Upper cut, I know because my Grandfather Beat the Hell out of her and violently so, but she was Irish,  He got old and she didn’t forget him.  Bush was Punched silly do to his own Blunders, we have seen Obama’s Hook, ok, we have seen his dance it’s cool Baby, but let’s see if he can take a beating like a Man, take a Beating and stand back up to them all, because when your Top Dog you have know it’s coming down and you better have the know how to use those teeth, I want to know if he go all ten (Four years) and live through it Like Mr. Jack Johnson…And then he will fight again for another Ten…

Edited by Pavot, 29 January 2009 - 03:53 AM.